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Howard Bragman Hopes There's a Special Place in Hell for Leaders Who Support Gay Rights When it's Politically Expedient


PR man and pundit Howard Bragman, who is known for helping stars come out of the closet, slams the Bushes, Obama, and others who don't come out for gay rights until it's a politically safe time to do so.


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  1. I somewhat agree with Howard Bragman, but I don't think it's fair to compare Obama to the Bushes, when it comes to gay rights.

    Posted by: Dawnell_do | Feb 2, 2011 7:18:30 AM

  2. It's very frustrating and Bragman has a point. Most of these politicians either are for gay rights or really don't much care one way or the other, but they say what they have to say to get elected. At least I can respectfully disagree someone who actually believes something but how can I respect someone who claims to believe something they really don't just to pander to homophobes? To me that's far worse (and a far greater problem) than the actual homophobes.

    Posted by: Houndentenor | Feb 2, 2011 8:23:51 AM

  3. Young Barbara Bush is an important crack in the Bush facade. We should champion someone like this and not join the hate. She was in High School and University while her Father was in office. Let's celebrate that people are waking up to a new reality that include LGBT people.

    Posted by: hanknyc | Feb 2, 2011 9:15:53 AM

  4. It's really no different than Jim Crow laws...

    They weren't really written down, lots of people disagreed, but you couldn't say so in a matter of fact way without risking backlash.

    Same for gays. People wish that we would just know our place and let things go on as they were, but that can't happen.

    Bragman is correct; you either have integrity & principles, or you don't. There's no valor arriving to a fight after the opponent has conceded. They love Dr. King, & they all have a convenient blind-spot when it comes to gay.

    Posted by: pete N sfo | Feb 2, 2011 9:23:18 AM

  5. Obama's having to be pushed, forced and cajoled into just getting rid of DADT and then saying he's "evolving" on DOMA will probably take credit when both these heinous laws are finally gone (if DOMA goes while he's President) reminds me of Bush taking the bullhorn and standing on a pile of rubble in New York after 911 as a PR stunt after he sat dumbfounded reading "My Pet Goat" when the twin towers fell. Bush's taking the bullhorn and his "mission accomplished" fiasco are images that make my stomach turn.

    Posted by: woodroad34d | Feb 2, 2011 9:32:51 AM

  6. btw...

    That woman on the panel is an idiot and should go WAAAY AWAY!

    Posted by: pete N sfo | Feb 2, 2011 9:46:23 AM

  7. @ woodroad34d

    Yep. You got your priorities straight.

    Name me what Bush did for gay rights. And then what Obama has done.

    IGNORE DADT which I don't give a sh*t about because I'm not a war loving imperialist junkie.

    Posted by: Rowan | Feb 2, 2011 9:57:13 AM

  8. hanknyc

    "...We should champion someone like this..."

    Without knowing her stand on any other issues?

    Yeah, NO. Good for her but being a bush = most likely supports other issues that are not in the best interest of humanity in general

    Posted by: | Feb 2, 2011 10:23:16 AM

  9. @Rowan, LOL Nice argument. "Prove me wrong but don't use proof because I don't care!"

    @Article, Add Ricky Martin and his "Activism" to this list.

    @Everyone, It is 100% OK to hate on Bush, Obama, Clinton ANY PREZ for gay issues, They ALL allow gay people to be oppressed, many do it through denial or oversight but all should be accountable.

    The trick is to hate them for their gay rights platform and respect them for their other positive actions. Obama isn't against gay rights and isn't the worst president ever, as always the truth lies in the middle.

    Posted by: Fenrox | Feb 2, 2011 10:28:21 AM

  10. and we all know that personal integrity has no place in politics...

    (give it up...I'm just happy to see another Bushie on the morally correct side)

    Posted by: TonyJ | Feb 2, 2011 12:45:37 PM

  11. Bragman is dead on. Those politicians out there calculating the right time jump on the gay rights bandwagon are worse than the likes of Tony Perkins and Bryan Fisher. And, yes, Obama is among them: the more he needs the gay vote to get re-elected, the more "evolved" he'll become. Slime!

    Posted by: Keppler | Feb 2, 2011 12:46:00 PM


    Maybe, but marriage quality and health care reform aren't two of those issues.

    Posted by: Chitown Kev | Feb 2, 2011 12:58:16 PM

  13. there is a special place in hell for leaders who support gay rights when it's politically expedient. it's called the Democratic Party.

    Posted by: Who cares | Feb 2, 2011 3:02:52 PM

  14. I disagree with Bragman. If someone is forever spotting homophobia then "good for them?" But if they supported their daddy when they were kids and then speak against their bigot parents' views as an adult then "there's a special place in he'll?"
    My reaction would be more like "well, at least you've come around now."

    And that woman's joke about "bush" and "lesbianism" sounded like it came from the mouth of a 12-year-old. She acted like Joy didn't get it since there was no "har, har, har" but I thought Joy didn't want to waste time embarrassing herself by acknowledging the dumb comment. When junior high boys tell such "jokes," I always wonder, do they think only gay women have pubic hair or that straight men don't have butts?

    It would be no less meaningless to say the body-part "jokes" about
    straight people. Actually , if Joy had said "I'm not sure I do get it.are gay women known for having more public hair than straight women?" I think the woman would probably have been duly embarrassed since there's no explaining it.

    Posted by: Gregv | Feb 2, 2011 11:29:46 PM

  15. Bragman is dead on. Those politicians out there calculating the right time jump on the gay rights bandwagon are worse than the likes of Tony Perkins and Bryan Fisher. And, yes, Obama is among them: the more he needs the gay vote to get re-elected, the more "evolved" he'll become. Slime!

    Posted by: Keppler | Feb 2, 2011 12:46:00 PM

    And Miss Keppler when your ass get a republican in the White House. They will send you, Howard and the rest of the Obama haters STRAIGHT TO HELL you ungrateful faggot. Probably didn't vote for him anyway

    Keep thinking you're bullying him into supporting Gay Causes. And see how much access the next time around our community will get NONE!!!

    Posted by: chris | Feb 3, 2011 1:48:43 AM

  16. The hypocrisy charge is interesting in coming from Bragman's mouth seeing as he had no trouble doing PR work for the Hyatt after they gave a big check in support of Prop 8. Obviously Bragman has a blurry line of what hypocritical means.

    Posted by: James Twist | Feb 4, 2011 5:47:32 PM

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