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Navy Looking To Oust Sailor After 'Vampire Diaries' Sleepover

Vintagenavyposter Navy officials have launched discharge proceedings against a Petty Office, Stephen C. Jones, after he and another sailor were found in bed together.

Though Jones insists he and his friend simply fell asleep while The Vampire Diaries, investigators claim their unintentional sleepover crossed "professional lines."

The investigative summary and charging documents do not specify how Jones's actions constituted unprofessional conduct. Jones said his friend often stopped by his room to watch videos, and noted that visiting hours lasted until 2 a.m. that Saturday night. He and his attorney said they have repeatedly asked the Navy for clarification.

[Thomas] Dougan, the Navy spokesman, acknowledged that no regulation specifically prohibits sailors from falling asleep in the same bed. But he said rules do require them to "behave professionally in the barracks" and that Bailey, the commanding officer, concluded that Jones and McGee had not done so. "The determination was that two sailors sharing the same rack was unprofessional."

Read more about this case, AFTER THE JUMP...

The case has nothing to do with Don't Ask, Don't Tell -- neither of the men, stationed at Charleston, South Carolina's Naval Nuclear Power Training Command, has been accused of being gay -- but does highlight how certain officials may be able to get around the law's forthcoming repeal.

Said Alexander Nicholson, executive director of gay group Servicemembers United, "It's been the case for years that commanders had at their disposal the means to chapter someone out of the military for something other than homosexual conduct... If you want to get rid of somebody, you can always find something to punish them for."

What's more, the charges also show how panicky people can get over male bonding: Jones' roommate told officials both men were in their boxer shorts when he walked in, a detail that raises the specter of homosexuality, but doesn't necessarily equal homosexuality.

Contrary to popular belief, many men, like many women, often get undressed in front of one another and have no qualms palling around in their undergarments. That's a completely human inclination, and not one that should immediately be associated with sexuality of any nature. If you ask me, the fact that such male bonding raised so many eyebrows suggests that Navy officials aren't as mature as they would like us to believe.

For the record, Jones' friend, Brian McGee, has accepted a lesser charge to remain in the Navy.

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  1. Hmmm they force Manning to spend the night naked and then stand naked for cell count but then want to oust a sailor for being in his boxers with another Sailor. I guess torture is ok but male bonding isn't?

    Posted by: Chuck | Mar 4, 2011 2:32:18 PM

  2. If this had been two women petty officers, there would have been mobile phone pics captured to a chorus of "yes girls, yes!" followed by "how 'bout a pillow fight" in your bras and panties? !

    Posted by: dave02657 | Mar 4, 2011 2:45:23 PM

  3. This is a bogus charge and definitely a last gasp for DADT. Obviously, the not-so-good commander has never been on a destroyer or a submarine. The crews' quarters are, um, just a little tight and the bunk beds so close together you could get a smack on the head or in the mouth by the restless, sleeping sailor bunked next to you.

    Falling asleep in the same bed means nothing. It happens more often than not in the Navy and other service branches and it is not sexual in the least.

    The commander has made an assumption based on his own homophobia.

    The commander should be ousted.

    Posted by: jamal49 | Mar 4, 2011 2:51:18 PM

  4. Somebody has an enemy.

    Posted by: reality 101 | Mar 4, 2011 2:55:53 PM

  5. I'm more disturbed that two grown men were watching The Vampire Diaries...

    Posted by: matt | Mar 4, 2011 2:59:25 PM

  6. The Royal Navy has rum, sodomy, and the lash, but all our sailors get are hokey television programs?

    Posted by: Anastasia Beaverhausen | Mar 4, 2011 3:08:20 PM

  7. Did anyone bother to ask if they were Team Damon or Team Stefan?

    Posted by: crispy | Mar 4, 2011 3:11:54 PM

  8. Or Team Alaric.

    Posted by: Sonneillon | Mar 4, 2011 3:18:54 PM

  9. Good thing the sensitive commander has never run across anything like this:

    Or this:

    Posted by: BobN | Mar 4, 2011 3:24:56 PM

  10. Hmmm. With no non-discrimination protections in place, or as yet planned, in the repeal of DADT, anybody else worried here that this the kind of end run we're going to get around discriminating against gay troops? "No, we didn't discharge you for being gay, we discharged you for being 'unprofessional' enough to fall asleep in the same bunk together."

    Posted by: MrRoboto | Mar 4, 2011 3:25:44 PM

  11. Definitely a commander who's pissed about the DADT repeal. What an idiot.

    Posted by: David R. | Mar 4, 2011 3:25:45 PM

  12. I'm with Matt. They should at least have watched a better show

    Posted by: Steve | Mar 4, 2011 3:30:43 PM

  13. @ crispy

    Uhm, I'll admit

    team MASON! screw VD for killing him off

    Posted by: | Mar 4, 2011 3:33:54 PM

  14. If someone is suggesting that you might have been engaged in homosexual conduct and your defense is "no, we just fell asleep watching the vampire diaries" you're not helping your case any. Say you fell asleep watching CSI or Fox News LOL

    Posted by: matt | Mar 4, 2011 3:40:38 PM

  15. Completely ridiculous. This not only shows just what some people think of male bonding or 2 men being together in any situation that could potentially be labeled suggestive (even when it clearly isn't), but it also shows that as Alex Nicholson said, just because DADT is repealed, it does not mean that discrimination isn't going to happen. And as long as there isn't anti-discrimination codes, or a culture shift in the eyes of common sense and fairness, things like this are going to continue.

    Posted by: Francis | Mar 4, 2011 3:41:20 PM

  16. Not to be Uncle Tommy about this...BUT, I don't think it's crazy these proceedings are happening. It does seem pretty unprofessional. I mean, repeal of DADT means gays can serve openly in the military. The point isn’t to allow full on ram sessions in the barracks.

    Gay/Straight/Friends, they probably ought to keep sleeping in the same bed together off of the base.

    No one would blink an eye if a male and female troop got cited for acting unprofessionally if they were caught in bed together. It would be unconvincing it was platonic hence their behavior should be characterized unprofessionally.

    Remember college? Sleeping in a room with people have sex can get annnoyyyyinnnnggg – no matter what kind.

    Posted by: Robert | Mar 4, 2011 3:41:53 PM

  17. Things like this are still happening. I have a friend who had to fight his command because he got accused of forcible sodomy after a sexual encounter with another soldier in his unit. It turns out the other soldier had mental issues and later confessed that he totally lied and that sex was consensual, but my friends unit continued to try to trump up any kind of charges they could to screw him over and well as giving him a bad evaluation.

    Posted by: Frank | Mar 4, 2011 3:53:58 PM

  18. I suspect the people badmouthing Vampire Diaries haven't watched it. It's a great show, with excellent writing. I'm 40, and I'll freely admit to watching it.

    Posted by: Dan E | Mar 4, 2011 4:01:46 PM

  19. Wake up, little Susie, wake up!

    The movie wasn't so hot.
    It didn't have much of a plot.
    We fell asleep, our goose is cooked,
    our reputation is shot.

    Wake up, little Susie!
    Wake up, little Susie!

    Some stories never change...

    Posted by: NickC | Mar 4, 2011 4:21:38 PM

  20. Wait what? This is the cutest, most innocent thing I have every heard. When poeple are punshed for being good and decent you know there is a problem.

    Posted by: Nate | Mar 4, 2011 4:23:22 PM

  21. Clearly the Commander is not in a fraternity. Guys would wind up in each others beds all the time, and it was totally non-sexual. After a while, you do feel like "brothers" and crashing out while watching the tube is nothing. He probably said "Vampire Diaries" to illustrate the point that IF they were messing around, they would have a better show to try and hide it.

    There are some hot slutty chicks on that show, so I see why they were watching it. This is lame.

    Posted by: Hollywood, CA | Mar 4, 2011 4:32:42 PM

  22. They should have been watching "Supernatural"

    Posted by: jaragon | Mar 4, 2011 5:42:04 PM

  23. Sounds unprofessional to me.

    Posted by: Kyle | Mar 4, 2011 5:56:52 PM

  24. Another "miracle" attributed to St. Barack proven phony...............

    Posted by: | Mar 4, 2011 6:43:33 PM

  25. This is ridiuclous.

    It would be unprofessional for a doctor or a lawyer or a teacher to be at the office in underwear or to fall asleep in the staff room on a bed or a sofa (alone or beside anyone else) or to watch TV at work.

    But in this case, this is their living quarters! Living with co-workers 24 hours a day, a person could only be expected to bond and let their guard down from typical office-type boundaries.

    I can only assume that "Commanding Officer Bailey" is one of those paranoid homophobes who wastes his own time and energy all day worrying about how it might look if he holds a coffee cup a certain way or sits on the same couch with a male.

    Posted by: GregV | Mar 4, 2011 7:58:48 PM

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