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UPDATED: Texas Man Kills Daughter's Girlfriend and Her Mother Over Lesbian Relationship

UPDATED: Austin PD presser, AFTER THE JUMP...

An Austin, Texas man upset that his daughter was in a lesbian relationship has been arrested for the murder of his daughter's girlfriend and the girlfriend's mother, the Austin Statesman reports:

Hurtado

Jose Alfonso Aviles, 45 , went to the house in the 7100 block of Dixie Drive where Norma Hurtado, 24, lived with her mother and shot both women after knocking on the door, officials said Tuesday. He has been charged with capital murder and could receive life in prison or the death penalty if convicted.

Police said they are looking for a second unidentified man who witnesses said fled the scene with Aviles in a green sport utility vehicle.

Aviles' daughter, who was in the home at the time, found Norma Hurtado and her mother, 57-year-old Maria Hurtado , after they were shot, according to police and court documents.

The daughter's "family was quite upset over this relationship," Austin police Lt. Gena Curtis said Tuesday. "This had been an ongoing dispute between these families and it turned tragic, into a horrific act of violence with the death of two individuals."

The daughter told police that she and Norma Hurtado had been involved in a lesbian relationship, which her father did not approve of, and that there had been disturbances between Aviles and Norma Hurtado, according to an arrest affidavit.

Authorities have not determined whether the murder will be classified a hate crime.

I've posted the press conference from the Austin Police Department, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. "Police have not determined whether the murder will be considered a hate crime."

    Really? Is it even possible to have a clearer case of a hate crime? Do killers need to write their motive out in the victim's blood or something?

    Posted by: Wes | Apr 19, 2011 6:17:41 PM


  2. Keep Austin Weird

    Posted by: KD | Apr 19, 2011 6:23:59 PM


  3. ratbastard/pretty rat boy or his wannabes make an ugly appearance here in 3...2...1...

    Posted by: haterz | Apr 19, 2011 6:41:13 PM


  4. True, Wes. Obviously, there is absolutely no question this is a hate crime.

    What a horrible story. Goes to show how some homophobes hate "gay" and everything in their mind encompasses that, than they love their own kids and family. People like this see their child's non-heterosexuality as a dishonor to their family itself, and many times blame the partner for "turning" their kid from heterosexuality. So sick and demented. RIP to the two deceased women.

    Posted by: Francis | Apr 19, 2011 6:45:09 PM


  5. @WES

    The police don't have the authority to determine whether or not the murder was a hate crime. That's up to the district attorney.

    Posted by: Xtab | Apr 19, 2011 6:46:10 PM


  6. It's capital murder, in Texas. Determining whether or not it's a hate crime will only effect reporting; since he's already eligible for the death penalty, it can't really effect sentencing.

    Posted by: Dave | Apr 19, 2011 7:37:26 PM


  7. Oh. Another Hispanic murdering a queer person. Surprise, surprise. Reminds me why I left Mexico.

    Posted by: Rubén | Apr 19, 2011 7:58:23 PM


  8. Any bets we see a startling "panic Defense" based on the defendants' religious beliefs. I bet this is one murderer that GW BUSH would have no problem paroling.

    Posted by: Bushsucks | Apr 19, 2011 8:01:03 PM


  9. That's strange, Ruben, because Hispanics in Texas are generally more supportive of gay rights than Anglos.

    Posted by: Xtab | Apr 19, 2011 8:03:14 PM


  10. I'm related to half of the Hispanics in Texas. We're all "primos." That's why I live in Oregon.

    They are not supportive. Most of them will happily have us lobotomized.

    Posted by: Rubén | Apr 19, 2011 8:06:19 PM


  11. Savage. Imagine murdering 2 people because your daughter is lesbian. I bet alcohol was involved.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Apr 19, 2011 8:12:55 PM


  12. I dunno. Maybe. Polling here suggests Hispanics are the MOST tolerant. Now, they might not be as tolerant as Oregon whites, but compared to white Texans?

    http://www.equalitytexas.org/content.aspx?id=476

    I live in a mostly Hispanic part of Texas. I'm white. I encounter more homophobia among whites, for what it's worth.

    Posted by: Xtab | Apr 19, 2011 8:14:47 PM


  13. Feuding family my but THIS IS A HATE CRIME

    Posted by: Reverend Joseph Shore-Goss | Apr 19, 2011 8:15:41 PM


  14. On the whole hate crime question (which isn't really a question), please remember that this crime occurred in Austin/Travis County. and that the Travis County District Attorney is an out lesbian. I think the addition of a hate crime enhancement will be taken very seriously, though I won't go so far as to say it is a forgone conclusion it will be added to the charges.

    Posted by: Craig | Apr 19, 2011 8:55:47 PM


  15. This is clearly a hate crime motivated by homophobia, not a "forbidden romance". KXAN better get that right.

    Posted by: Randy | Apr 19, 2011 9:20:44 PM


  16. Reminds me why I never want to live in or visit Texas. I cannot imagine a clearer hate crime. Hopefully the DA will see that as well.

    Posted by: jonno | Apr 19, 2011 9:48:50 PM


  17. Perfect example of why homophobia+ignorant are so dangerous.

    Posted by: Mel Smith | Apr 19, 2011 10:09:57 PM


  18. I prefer to think of it as an honor killing.

    Posted by: frank | Apr 19, 2011 10:29:11 PM


  19. @Ratbastard: you bet alcohol was involved? I bet Jesus was involved. The dude's clergy should be detained and examined.

    Posted by: Danny | Apr 19, 2011 11:15:05 PM


  20. Anyone who commits a double homicide should receive the death sentence, but why should there be a distinction between a murder motivated by homophobia and one that isn't? WOuld their deaths have been less lamentable if they had died had died during a robbery? Regardless of the question of "why," the net result is the same in both cases: two people's right to live taken by another, and the two families left behind.

    Posted by: Realest Turtle | Apr 19, 2011 11:19:27 PM


  21. ^^ That last part should read, "and two families are left behind."

    Posted by: Realest Turtle | Apr 19, 2011 11:21:09 PM


  22. Realest Turtle, So you favor doing away with all distinctions between first degree murder, second degree murder, justifiable homicide, voluntary manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter, vehicular manslaughter, depraved indifference and any similar act and replacing it with a generic offense: "Act that causes the death of another"? We make distinctions in motive and the thought process of the perpetrator all the time. Why not enhance those motivations society deems more abhorrent? Even ultra right winger William Rehnquist agreed its constitutional when he, quoting the famed English judge William Blackstone, who heavily influenced early American jurisprudence, "it is but reasonable that, among crimes of different natures, those should be most severely punished which are the most destructive of the public safety and happiness."

    I tend to agree. consider this example: suppose some person commits an act of vandalism buy throwing an open can of paint at the door of some random house for kicks. Not suppose the same person uses a paint brush to paint a swastika on the door of the home of a Jewish family. While both are acts of vandalism, the second is far worse as it is likely to send shockwaves through the community, making every Jewish person in that community a little more fearful of their neighbors. Again quoting Rehnquist in defending hate crime enhancements, it has been shown that "bias-motivated crimes are more likely to provoke retaliatory crimes, inflict distinct emotional harms on their victims, and incite community unrest. [...] The State's desire to redress these perceived harms provides an adequate explanation for its penalty-enhancement provision over and above mere disagreement with offenders' beliefs or biases."

    Posted by: Craig | Apr 19, 2011 11:49:29 PM


  23. Here we have it. Two families wrecked, sacrificed on the altar of homohatred.

    And yet, somehow, it's all our fualt.

    Posted by: Ben in Oakland | Apr 19, 2011 11:59:33 PM


  24. @Craig: I meant that two premeditated murders should be treated equally under law, regardless of motive. My example of robbery wasn't appropriate for the point I was trying to make: while some robbery/murders do qualify as premeditated murder, not all do. A better case would be the premeditated murder of two children by a stranger. Would the perpetrator of said crime necessitate less punishment than the accused in this case?
    Your counterexample of manslaughter is unrelated to this argument because manslaughter lacks "intent to kill." Similarly, differences between first and second-degree murder and justified homicide involve intent to kill and crimes committed along with the murder. These distinctions are valid in determining the severity of the crime; obviously planning to kill someone demonstrates greater danger to scoiety than killing someone accidentally or in self-defense. It shows that the person is capable of killing and could kill again, but it does not matter WHOM may be killed or WHY.
    I also disagree with your assessment that premeditated crime against a random target causes less damage to a community than a hate crime. Returning to the example of the murdered children, such a case would inspire paranoia and anger in most people in any community. Feeling unsafe due to crime is not unique to minorities being targeted for hate crimes; consider neighborhoods where the houses have bars over their windows and residents sleep with guns under their pillows in case of a burglary.

    Posted by: Realest Turtle | Apr 20, 2011 12:52:29 AM


  25. My heart goes out to the family of these poor people!!!! WE NEED TO GET THESE HATEFUL MEXICANS( LATINS...NOT HISPANICS) OUT OF THIS COUNTRY BACK TO MEXICO TO KILL GAY PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY

    Posted by: Shannon | Apr 20, 2011 1:06:52 AM


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