1. Bruno says

    That’s some news there…Cuomo is then considering changing the bill. I hope it goes no further to protect discrimination than laws in other states like NH.

  2. james says

    Note to Dolan: In a society with no established religion or state church, like the United States of America, no church, not yours, not mine, gets to tell everyone what to do. In this country, marriage is defined by the states, not by the dominant religion, not even by the federal government.

    You’re not worried “as Americans” that it’s detrimental to the common good. You’re worried it’s another erosion of the power of the Catholic church.

    The erosion of the Catholic church’s authority to define everything for everyone began in the Renaissance, the Protestant Reformation, and the Enlightenment, over 500 years ago.

    You’re losing. Get used to it.

  3. AllBeefPatty says

    Dear Archbishop Dolan,

    You are the reason that your Catholic flock is dwindling. Will you continue to be the fount of negativity or a path to enlightenment?

    And yes…I am quite sure that you are reading this.

  4. walter says

    tell this clown in a dress to shut and keep his beliefs to himself not everyone follows his tenants and he should not be able to force them on everyone else. and if he doesn’t stop making veiled threats to elected representatives remind them they work the electorate not the church.

  5. AggieCowboy says

    He even admits his position is religious bigotry, but still thinks it should be his way and his way alone. Where the Hell does he think he lives, the Vatican?

    Call Archbishop Dolan and tell him to keep HIS religion out of OUR government. It’s a government of the PEOPLE, by the PEOPLE, and for the PEOPLE…NOT of the church, by the church and for the church!

    Contact: Archbishop Timothy Dolan
    Phone: 212-371-1000

    Oh, and be polite(ish), no threats, etc.

  6. Brian says

    I think these anti-marriage new yorkers need to get out and travel a bit. The archbishop and that NOM football player talk like this is the first time in history that gay marriage might be leaglized, and predict all sorts of anarchy and national failure as a result. But we’ve had gay marriage for years in New England and in lots of other countries, and so far, I haven’t noticed mobs rioting in Vermont. When they make these crazy predictions they should be challenged as to why these calamities haven’t happened elsewhere.

  7. says

    I am in no way religious and don’t believe for a moment that religions like Mormanism, Methodists and most notable Catholicism should be able to wield as much power as they do in free society. As far as I’m concerned they should be shown the back door. For any one group to be able to discriminate for centuries against a minority aiming to destory that minority is unforgivable. Not one church should be granted tax-exemptions of any kind.

  8. says

    You know what’s bad for society? Pedophilia. You know what’s also bad for society? Misogyny, lying, manipulation of the weak, a growing division between rich and poor, and voters who cast ballots based on religious dogma instead of a thorough understanding of the issues.

    Marriage isn’t sacred for everybody. Often, it’s a means to an end. People get married for immigration purposes, tax purposes, child-rearing purposes, inheritance purposes, to get the ecclesiastical go-ahead to have sex with someone, or at the behest of the millions of audience members calling in to vote on who gets to marry the person on a given reality TV show.

    Also, it’s important to rememeber that the Catholic church isn’t considered Christian by many people, including much of my home state. They’re not Christians. They’re idolaters who bow to a roman dictator. So Dolan can shut his fat, myopic mouth and quit spouting off about something he doesn’t understand in the slightest.

  9. TampaZeke says

    It just infuriates me that we still look to ring leaders in the largest pedophile ring in the history of mankind for our moral guidance and advice on what is right and wrong.

    And without ANY shame, they are more than happy to step forward as moral authorities.

  10. says

    They still hide their child molesters..
    And they walk like a political party, they squawk like a political party……they are a political party.
    @ BOONE : yeah, they should lose any tax exempt status and they can just be as political as the Teabaggers.

  11. says

    If the purpose of marriage is for the procreation of children, then a man and a woman who do not want children, but want to be married, should be denied the right to marry. And senior citizens, if they find someone to love, should not be allowed to marry beyond their child-bearing years. And sterile people should not be allowed to marry. But, better, the Catholic Church should realize they are in a democracy in America, not in a theocracy, and not everyone is an intolerant kind of Christian.

  12. Azgaard says

    A Catholic priest expressing an opinion on the subject of marriage makes no sense whatsoever. These men have no idea what they are talking about. I might start listening to them opine on marriage when they are allowed to get married themselves.

    What’s next? Dolan conducts a lecture series for women on what childbirth feels like?

  13. Joe in CT says

    @Trees — You covered my sentiments exactly. Procreation is not the basis for marriage — except, perhaps, in so called “shotgun marriages” when love is not the motivating factor.

  14. Bob says

    When this last came up in Albany and the Orthodox Union got involved with lobbying Senators for No votes, I called them up and cancelled my membership and now when contacted by their various charities, I inform the callers, that because of their political actions I can no longer support them. Perhaps members of Dignity and gay friends who are K of C should take similar actions. Hit them in the pocketbook, that’s where it hurts.

  15. C Magnus says

    You and your “likings” are evil people — and you pretend you are Christians.

    I left the church [Catholic Church] many, many years ago — your bigotry and hatefulness is despicable.

    May she have mercy on your soul.

  16. Readthebook says

    You are all a bunch of fools. Read the book before you criticize the holy followers.” And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; ”

    “And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence [sic] of their error which was meet.”

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