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  1. RONTEX says

    THAT was freakin’ awesome and a pretty good song too.

    I wonder if this taking place in water is an underlying theme that sexuality is somewhat fluid? (until experience helps you choose a team ; )

  2. troy says

    there’s also the cool message that it was drag queens (even from before Stonewall and Compton’s) who showed us the way to sexual freedom.

    the woman with the fries shows us the alternative, the sublimation of our sexual impulses, in this case toward food.

  3. T. Hayes says

    That was at once beautiful and difficult to watch, but then that is the way with powerful ideas. Difficult because the film asks us to break out of fears generated by dogmatic social criteria about what it means to be human. Powerful because it asks us to look upon the true faces of humanity and see ourselves improved by the experiences of love embraced, and that we are reduced and limited if we refuse.

  4. SFshawn says

    This film was one of the short films at the San Francisco GLBT filmfest this past June and got a standing ovation. I wish every struggling GLBT….youth could watch this 7 minute video and be inspired! Everything about it is AMAZING. The photography,the music,the acting and most importantly the incredible message of tolerance/acceptance/being your own person!
    Hopefully this will get out to the mainstream masses because it just makes the religious freaks lose it!
    Bravo for posting.
    Amazing stuff!

  5. Sam says

    It’s a very interesting video, to say the least. A lot in the video I didn’t expect. The message about bullying is hidden if you don’t pay close attention.

    I would say it’s a good video overall.

  6. Lisa G says

    I will go a step further and say this is total rubbish. I am sure they were trying very hard to say something, but it came off as very creepy. But I suppose we are all supposed to be in lock step with the “anything goes” agenda. Whatever, you can keep your creepy old drag queen metaphors.

  7. T says

    Immature bleatings of “repulsive” and “ridiculous” constitute aesthetic criticism now? My how our standards have fallen. At least we agree there!

  8. gggggb says

    I don’t really get it but I also didn’t watch the whole thing. Still think that the person who disapproves of the “anything goes agenda” (with a woman’s name?) must be rather boring.

  9. Jeremy says

    @T, I have a specific aesthetic criticism, if it makes you feel any better: why must the only musical genre represented in LGBT-specific videos be thumping club music? I honestly found the music choice to be cliché and lazy, and that it might have been a much better video with different music.

  10. RONTEX says

    @ Bob, who taught you to spell, it’s Rontex, not Rontext. Thanks “T”, my thoughts on Bob’s aesthetic criticism exactly. And Lisa, just because you didn’t like the video doesn’t mean it has an “agenda” other than perhaps reminding people that minds and hearts work better when they are open.

  11. Lexxvs says

    Beyond its beautiful imagery and intentions –and obviously I understand the point of it all- I can’t but to also thing about how those opposed to us can perceive the film. And I get that where we see bravery and taking the jump for acceptance and sexuality despite bulling or anger they would revive that old idea of the old queer whose intentions are to pervert the community and produce uncontrolled promiscuity. So while the film is good I see that it would fail into building bridges for some people. The metaphor of an open softened orgy in a swimming pool is something that can be argued against from so many angles the good original idea could get mudded and stranded.
    Nowadays it not only important to congratulate ourselves with messages that already confirm what most of us know and can strengthen our feelings, but to build understanding, step by step and in an easy way to get, because not everybody can read the big background. Some people will just literally see what’s there and some others will dub it in a not very flattering –and hateful way-. The shock value can only be useful for those able and willing to think and change. The shock value for others will stay in shock and produce disgust and retreat from any possibility of changing their mind.

  12. Lisa G says

    @Rontex, there is most certainly an agenda an a message the producers of this video are trying to make (trying a lot too hard). Dont fool yourself. Ironic that your idea of having an open mind only credits those who like the product and the message. blech.

  13. troy says

    the video also very much reminded me of this video from sigur ros for Viðrar vel til loftárása: http://youtu.be/mzvkeRXhUYM they obviously share the same slow-motion style but also share much the same message.

    i guess you can view the ending as representing literally an orgy, but it seems more to represent our sexual culture as a whole, and how our basic impulses of love and attraction are affected by outside forces. liberation is deciding and acting for yourself, throwing off what others think you should or should not do, and with whom.

    that’s why i’m blown away by the knowing look the drag queen gives us at the end of the video. there’s a sense of satisfaction there, but also a reassurance. brings me to tears every time.

    and what’s amazing about the video overall, besides it’s gorgeous style, is that different people are reading different things into it and feel the need to debate it.

  14. RONTEX says

    @ Lisa, my take on the video is don’t judge someone until you’ve walked in their shoes, pumps or flats. This director just chose to use sexual imagery to convey that. Wait, are you the fat and lonely girl at the end of the video?

  15. Rick says

    LOL. The oldest gay male fantasy in existence, version 100,623. Beautiful, young straight men with great bodies being successfully seduced by ugly old effeminate queens–I mean, if those young straight hotties would just have the courage to “be who they are”, that is exactly what they all would do, right? (LOL).

    Hey, it’s a movie and that is what movies are for, on some level, right?

    Hilarious and pathetic at the same time, as are the comments, in which some of you actually try to elevate this to some kind of “art” or “statement”.

  16. SFshawn says

    It IS art and it IS a statement—one that people seem to be very uncomfortable with based on these comments. The statement obviously gets lost on those who are too stupid,too ignorant,too sexually inhibited,too closeted,too lazy to watch the entire thing and too judgemental to ever put themselves in anyone elses shoes and understand how to be compassionate.
    Amazing work-worthy of praise.

  17. AedanCloud says

    @Rick- I’d agree with you if that was in any way the only interaction in the film. But it isn’t. It was everyone joining in with everyone save the poor, sad obese lady.

    It may have started the pool orgy, but it certainly didn’t end it. And to read that as the entire message/intention/mastubatory fantasy played out here is to willfully ignore a lot of content. If anything your honing in on that single interaction shows more your anger/discomfort with that particular idea than it does the directors desire to make that the point of the film.

    I mean- it eeked me out too- but after watching the whole thing I feel that was kind of the point. Along with how absolutely ridiculous that duo was adding to the surreal nature of the clip.

  18. says

    If RICK can ever make a post without making one of his usual tired swipes at “effeminate queens” it’ll be a sign of progress, indeed.

    when will RICK and wimps like him realize that “effeminate queens” aren’t the reason your fathers were ashamed to call you Son.

    Your fathers resented having you for a son because you’re a coward.

  19. Jonathan says

    What bothers me about this is that every gender, age and hue (knowing that this is a German production makes the relatively light skin tone of the darkest people there make more sense) joins in the celebration at the end. The one person who sits it out, and has no contact with anyone else in the video at all, is the heavy girl. If there had been heavy people in the pool or other people choosing to sit out I wouldn’t have been uncomfortable about her. Even if it had been a heavy guy, I don’t think it would have been quite so jarring. Though I think the most striking image would have been a conventionally beautiful person choosing to exclude him or herself from the celebration in the pool.

  20. Artie Rimbaud says

    @ Rick,

    Your putting 1% or 2% of the video under a microscope and pretending that it’s the entire video. The more comments you post, the more obsessed you seem to be. Weird. And I don’t mean the video.

  21. Jay says

    @ Jonathan

    I understand what you’re saying, but I interpreted the exclusion of the overweight girl as a comment that “fatness” has yet to be embraced by even the most sexually liberated of people. Will it, should it.. I don’t think the movie tries to send a message about that, it just wants us to consider it. There are those, both gay and straight, who aren’t able to participate in the freedom depicted primarily because of their appearance.

  22. troy says

    well, the overweight woman was not being excluded; she was choosing not to participate. i think that’s the point. her relationship to food has taken the place of her sexual impulse (the camera focuses on her eating the way it does on the kissing in the pool), which is an end result of the kind of judgment and fear the video is arguing against. some people fear their sexuality and judgment about it and turn those desires toward food, others toward religion, and so on.

  23. Dback says

    I saw some 50 shorts at the Frameline fest in June, and this was one of the handful that I just adore. Yes, it’s over the top and takes big risks and isn’t afraid to be a little crazy or ridiculous; that’s why I took it to be a genuine work of art–and, more importantly, a work of compassion and generosity. I’m not someone who adores drag and thinks it automatically equals profundity, but the actor in that role, with his bewitching Vanessa Redgrave-smile, really elevates his role to poetry. And there’s something liberating and inspiring about seeing so many different people expressing affection for each other without fear or shame.

    Minor sermon: art is personal. Some of my favorite movies are “E.T.” “Psycho” “Harold and Maude” “Brokeback Mountain” and “The Philadelphia Story”–and I’m sure someone reading those titles just thought, “Oh my God, he likes THAT piece of garbage?” (For the record, I hate “As Good As It Gets” “A Clockwork Orange” and “Independence Day” for three other examples.) If folks are going to discuss the film as a piece of art, it would be nice if we could try to do it without getting nasty and resorting to personal attacks–otherwise, isn’t that an echo of the bullies and haters at the start of the short?

  24. Artie Rimbaud says

    @ Rick,

    One more very odd thing about your comment. You describe the young man who interacts with the drag queen in the beginning as one of the “beautiful young straight men with great bodies” and a “straight hottie”. OK, I get it. You think only straight men are attractive, which has more to do with admiring sexual/religious taboos than masculinity or attractiveness.

    But the young man who interacts with the drag queen in the beginning is the one getting bullied by the rest of the group of young men, especially the one who is initially the most homophobic. That would mean that he’s not straight. Were you wearing a blindfold during that part? You’re too wrapped up in your warped view of the world to even see the obvious. That might cast some doubt on your ability to judge Andy’s post and any positive comments as “pathetic”. Step away from the french fries with mayonnaise, Rick.

  25. Artie Rimbaud says

    The only one of the young men that the drag queen interacts with in the entire video is the boy who was getting taunted and bullied by the rest of the group, the boy who is not depicted as “straight”. After that, the drag queen gets out of the pool and leaves. But this is how Rick interprets this in his comment above:

    “LOL. The oldest gay male fantasy in existence, version 100,623. Beautiful, young straight men with great bodies being successfully seduced by ugly old effeminate queens–I mean, if those young straight hotties would just have the courage to “be who they are”, that is exactly what they all would do, right? (LOL).”

    Hey, Rick,
    You’re losing your grasp on reality. You see the boy who is getting bullied, but you conclude that since he is attractive and not obviously effeminate, he must obey the Christian sexual taboo against male-male sex; in other words, he must be “straight”. Sounds like what you worship and lust after is Christian sexual taboo. Weird-ass Jesus worship, Rick? Hey, Rick. Why doesn’t Jesus eat M&Ms? Because they fall through the holes in his hands. (Just thought I’d add a little sunshine to your day.)

  26. Artie Rimbaud says

    @ NE Rich,

    You have it right on the money. The mood of this video might be off-beat, but the storyline is nothing so much as an “It Gets Better” video, with the non-straight boy getting bullied in the beginning, but people losing their homophobia later.

  27. Jonathan says

    I understand all the text and subtext that the heavy girl represents and that her isolation is of her own making. What I’m saying is that making her the only heavy person in the video and making her female introduces elements into the video the filmmakers appear to have not meant which is always possible in art, but also troubling. Again, putting someone more conventionally beautiful “in the corner” would have made a more emphatic statement about inner beauty and the walls we build around ourselves and how we break them down, or don’t.

  28. RIck says

    @Artie Rimbaud A shame to see you give in to group think like this. He was not getting bullied. And I base the idea that he is straight on the fact that, immediately after the stupid scene with the drag queen, he is shown kissing a woman, rather passionately.

    Do truly gay men French kiss women passionately in a pool?

    No.

    The point was obviously that he was actually straight but was seduced by the drag queen, which just plays into the fantasy of so many, if not all, gay men….and certainly into the fantasy of old, unattractive, wasted drag queens…..

  29. RIck says

    And let me add that, if he was being bullied, then why do all the guys that were supposedly bullying him end up kissing other guys? Did seeing an ugly old drag queen and the guy they were bullying suddenly bring out all their latent homosexuality, so that in the space of a few seconds, they go from being bullying homophobes to enlightened suck-another-guy’s-tongue bisexual?

    Please.

    If that is your interpretation, it only reinforces my original point about fantasy–and if you don’t think that the vast majority of gay men add “bonus points” to the sexiness of a guy if they think he is straight…..well, they do……because, deep-down, so many of them have bought into the larger cultural notion that heterosexuality equals masculinity (and their internalization of that belief is what causes their low self-esteem and embrace of the feminine in all forms)….and they worship the masculine, even as they revile it, which is evidence of this internalization…..

    If you really try to understand my point-of-view, this is exactly what I am trying to change. If masculinity were the norm among gay men as it is among straight men, then all these issues would melt away……and all men would be free to really express themselves in whatever way they desired, rather than either a) being dependent on women for validation of their masculinity (the straight approach) or b) being convinced of their lack of masculinity and idolizing the feminine instead (the gay approach)..

    The whole paradigm is royally screwed up and needs a complete overhaul, but you have to have vision in order to see that…..

  30. troy says

    (1) the young guy was being pressured into doing something he didn’t want to do, which was obvious by his expression and demeanor as he was being walked to the diving board; (2) his eyes lingered on the drag queen (pre-drag)–it wasn’t a one-way view of him being looked upon by the drag queen; (3) the young guy closes his hand around the other’s before they jump; (4) the young guy swims toward the drag queen to kiss her, not the other way around; (5) if a guy kisses a guy and then kisses a girl, he defaults to straight?

    as much as you want to dismiss it as a trashy fantasy, the video is actually very revealing about your own biases and fears.

  31. troy says

    plus, i’d say you’re a bit lost on gays and masculinity/femininity. you might want to look at someone like jack fritscher, or, um, the last several decades of gay culture.

  32. Chadd says

    Art is subjective. There is not a person alive who likes every single thing ever created that is called Art. Some people appreciate this work as Art, others don’t, but I’m sure we all agree that the Artist has the right to create it.

    Personally, I appreciate the quality of the piece, but all the slow motion stuff and extreme closeups are well, and often over used forms of cinema. The story, such as it is, is not original either. The use of attractive, barely dressed people in a somewhat sexual situation is the basis for almost all advertising. So as a work of Art, I would hardly call this a masterpiece.

  33. Bryce Ageno says

    I believe it had a lot to do with the sexual labels we put on everyone. Did anyone else notice that after the black girl got slapped that her rainbow earrings fall off? To enter the pool you love who you want to love, you kiss who you want to kiss. There isn’t any labels just love.

  34. Bryce Ageno says

    I believe there is a reason the joker card is played before the introduction of the drag queen.

    “The King’s fool and jester, with the power to mock and revile even the most prominent without penalty”

    He represents a jester who is mocking the worlds view of sexuality and taboo.

  35. Artie Rimbaud says

    @ Rick,

    Now that you’ve explained more, I’ll say that I’m in sympathy with two of your major points.

    (1) When straight men are lackeys of women it’s oppressive.
    (2) When guy men are lackeys of women, it’s ridiculous and self-defeating.

    Although I agree with those two points of yours, I just don’t think it applies to this particular video. In his comment above, Troy notes that the young guy looks at the drag queen when the group is walking toward the diving board (maybe for help), doesn’t want to go on the diving board, holds the drag queen’s hand before they jump and swims toward the drag queen in the water. One thing that Troy didn’t mention is that after kissing the drag queen and then the blond girl, the young man who dives off the board also kisses two of the other young guys.

    However, I’ll admit that this video isn’t everyone’s cup of tea or idea of “art”. And it doesn’t detract from the truth of the two points you made in your last comment: (1) and (2) above. I didn’t mean to misread you original comment.

  36. Craig in Portland says

    Why does every comment on this site invoke debate, arguments, and dissention. This is no way for us to treat ourselves.
    It’s just a music video. The song wasn’t that good, but the video, if it had a point, is going to mean something different to any one persons POV. This is just how life works.

  37. ian says

    How’d they get Vanessa Redgrave? I thought she was quite mesmerizing. I think it’s about a young persons 1st discovery of their sexuality. He’s being peer pressured into taking the “plunge” as it where and he’s a little nervous about it. The drag queen represents all those who have gone before, men and women. She reassures him there is nothing to fear and once he has taken the plunge, she quits the pool. IMO, it’s not just about sexual discovery, but connecting with others. Many join in, but some remain outside refusing to connect. notice how none of the people outside the pool are interacting with each other.

  38. Chuck Mielke says

    This video has a tinge of kismet or synchronicity to it. My shrink said, “There’s no such thing as homosexuality.” Blindingly brilliant.

  39. JJ says

    There´s a clue at the beginning of the video that shows a very different story, if you use that clue.

    The two older guys playing cards…. one of them has the “joker” and that´s when the “drag queen” appears.

    If you see the video from a Junguian (as in Carl Jung) perspective, this a story involving the Joker / Trickster archetype in its androgyne expression.

    Notice that the “drag queen” appears when the boy needs help to jump into the pool which may symbolize sexuality in its various forms, and the trickster “touches” (kisses) the boy and then gets out while everybody else jumps into the pool…why do you think the “trickster” gets out of the pool?

    Seen from a symbolic point of view, it´s the internal archetype of the Trickster / Androgyne that “comes out” of the boy´s uncounscious to help him and “kisses” (gets in touch) with the boy´s ego and then the boy becomes a seductive force for everybody else.

    The video is full of symbols but the main one is archetype of the Trickster / Androgyne.

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