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Herman Cain: My Electrified Fence Remark was a Joke, Except for the 'Electrified' and 'Fence' Parts


At two different rallies in Tennessee over the weekend, Herman Cain discussed immigration and proposed an electrified fence on the U.S. border with Mexico, a proposal he later said was a joke.

Yesterday in Arizona, Cain met with anti-immigrant Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio (whose endorsement Michele Bachmann fished for in September), and talked about the electrified fence remarks, which he again said were a joke.

But not really.

The Phoenix New Times:

Halfway through the question about the electric fence, Cain butted in with "it was a joke!"

"Let me first say it was a joke, and some people don't think that it was a good joke, and it's probably not a joke that you're supposed to make if you're a presidential candidate," Cain continued. "I apologize if it offended anyone. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa."

Only, it might not be a joke, he later said, before finally saying he just doesn't want to offend anyone.

"I don't like to offend anyone...however, I don't apologize for using a combination of a fence. And it might be electrified -- I'm not walking away from that," Cain backtracked. "I just don't want to offend anybody. It was a joke to the extent in the context of the views of that speech, but in terms of what we need to do, I fully intend to do so because I'm more sensitive to our citizens being hurt."

Watch Cain's remarks, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. I have no problem with the electrified fence. As long as Herman is the first to try it out.

    Posted by: Bart | Oct 18, 2011 6:10:00 PM

  2. Joke or not, I think what people are really upset about is that it would work.

    Posted by: Max | Oct 18, 2011 6:12:03 PM

  3. just let the ass-oles keep talking. they are their own worst enemy. each one of these clowns gets the lead then promptly shoots themselves in the foot. oh to be a podiatrist for the repuks there is money to be made.

    Posted by: walter | Oct 18, 2011 6:20:05 PM

  4. Max - run this by me...you think people are upset with Cain suggestions because the electrocuting people 'would work'? What exactly do you mean ? Meaning that it would kill people ? Or you think that is a viable option for addressing immigration issues? You don't think people might be annoyed by Cain because he is slightly right of Attila the Hun, a raving lunatic whose ideas are both unethical and prehistoric?

    Posted by: paul | Oct 18, 2011 6:24:47 PM

  5. Keep talking Herm. You'll be next in the very long list of repub candidates who talked themselves right out of the job.

    Posted by: Laura | Oct 18, 2011 6:26:21 PM

  6. A Republican is a Republican is a Republican Period!

    Posted by: Peter | Oct 18, 2011 6:33:28 PM

  7. Paul, use your brain. An electric fence would reduce the number of people who illegally cross the border.

    Posted by: Max | Oct 18, 2011 6:37:06 PM

  8. @Max - use your brain. It would kill people. I know they're just "illegals" in your little mind but *shocker* they're actually human beings.

    Posted by: Bart | Oct 18, 2011 7:08:28 PM

  9. America's in so much trouble now and this man is an example of why.

    Posted by: yonquersconquers | Oct 18, 2011 7:31:04 PM

  10. @ BART---what part of "illegal" do YOU not understand? If there is a real and present danger to some idiot wanting to cross the border ILLEGALLY, then, GUESS WHAT---maybe they won't do it!

    Posted by: Jwxford | Oct 18, 2011 7:31:33 PM

  11. Herman Cain is a joke.

    Posted by: Red | Oct 18, 2011 7:37:50 PM

  12. Bart, it would *deter* people, and you just proved my original point: "what people are really upset about is that it would work," i.e. keep people out.

    Posted by: Max | Oct 18, 2011 7:48:11 PM

  13. Max, it will be costly and hard to build a fence and then it would only keep out what people like you would consider the "wrong" type of illegal aliens. We'd still get illegals from European countries, and places where the people's skin isn't brown.

    Posted by: cadence | Oct 18, 2011 7:59:07 PM

  14. I went to live in the UK 18 years ago. The fact that there is a discussion about a fence has made me prouder to be an emigrant than ever before.

    Posted by: harriesrichard@hotmail.com | Oct 18, 2011 8:08:51 PM

  15. Put this in a thought bubble over Herman Cain's head:
    Words... how do they work anyway?

    Posted by: RyanInSacto | Oct 18, 2011 8:13:37 PM

  16. Who's going to pick our vegetables? and fruit? and nuts?

    Posted by: becareful what you wish for | Oct 18, 2011 8:35:49 PM

  17. He's stupid enough to think he's smart enough to be President. This is the legacy of that Bush fellow.

    Posted by: You Let One In.... | Oct 18, 2011 8:43:04 PM

  18. BS Max

    an electrified fence if it even got finished.....

    The great wall of china was never finished so the mongols just went around it

    can easily be dug under = see already built tunnels from mexico to america being found

    can easily be grounded in spots and cut


    walls have never worked throught human history ask Emperors Antonine and Hadrian how well their walls kept back the flea ridden dirty scots, picts, etc

    Posted by: say what | Oct 18, 2011 9:54:40 PM

  19. He comes across as high school guidance counselor

    Posted by: jaragon | Oct 18, 2011 9:56:53 PM

  20. why do you assume the fence wold have lethal voltage? Electric fences don't electrocute cows on farms. It is used as a deterrent. And how the hell do illegal Europeans get here? That one made no sense! The whole electrocute mexicans thing is dissembling at its worst.

    Posted by: ted | Oct 18, 2011 11:25:48 PM

  21. @Cadence: "it will be costly and hard to build a fence"

    Did you support Obama's failed stimulus?

    "it would only keep out what people like you would consider the "wrong" type of illegal aliens."

    I only said "it would work." You inferred the rest just to validate your liberal sense of moral superiority.

    "We'd still get illegals from European countries"

    You mean people don't want to live in France?

    "places where the people's skin isn't brown"

    People like you believe that the whole entire world revolves around race. It doesn't.

    @Becareful: "Who's going to pick our vegetables? and fruit? and nuts?"

    I don't know. Maybe some of the millions of unemployed American citizens?

    @Say What: "walls have never worked"

    Israel's security fence cut down the number of Palestinian human bombs to almost zero. The DMZ between the two Koreas probably isn't crossed very often either. Where there's a will, there's a way, but an electric fence would be effective nonetheless. You're probably right about the "if it even got finished" part though.

    I don't actually care if people come here as long as they aren't a drain (i.e. as long as they pay taxes). But I know - someone who doesn't support full open borders and a one-world socialist government is obviously a racist. Duh!

    Posted by: Max | Oct 18, 2011 11:28:00 PM

  22. @ Ted

    You can't be serious! But you are... Europeans come here on temporary visas as tourists, workers, or students then their visas expire and they stay. And umm "dissembling" I am not sure that word thinks what you think it means. It seemed pretty clear what the intentions behind an electric fence were...

    Posted by: RGB | Oct 18, 2011 11:36:04 PM

  23. Would Cain had thought it a "joke" if the reference had been made to blacks in segregated areas during the 1960's? I doubt it. Somethings, Mr. Cain, are NOT funny! Grow up.

    Posted by: Jim | Oct 18, 2011 11:53:36 PM

  24. You kids should know by now that Miss Max is a conservative f_ggot who don't like minorities and never did just read some of his past comments on anything here dealing with race. He only likes Cain like the rest of the hateful GOP folks because he speaks what they like to hear.

    But Max we all know you wouldn't turn Diego out of your bed on the DL neither ;-) even if he crossed that border illegally.


    Posted by: CHRIS DACHOCOLATEBEARCUB | Oct 19, 2011 12:55:32 AM

  25. max

    I admit this is cut and paste from wiki (not the best source for anything) buit for a fast check on info...

    "....However, there is debate over how effective the barrier has been in preventing other attacks. A report by the Shin Beit, published in early 2006 notes that attacks in 2005 have significantly decreased due to increased pursuing of Palestinian militants by the Israeli army and intelligence organizations, Hamas's increased political activity, and a truce among Palestinian militant groups in the Palestinian Territories. According to Haaretz the report also mentions that "The security fence is no longer mentioned as the major factor in preventing suicide bombings, mainly because the terrorists have found ways to bypass it."[40] Former Israeli Secretary of Defence Moshe Arens claims that the reduction in Palestinian violence is largely due to the IDF's entry into the West Bank in 2002.[41]..."

    Posted by: say what | Oct 19, 2011 1:24:57 AM

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