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Ron Paul: Heterosexuals Cause More Trouble in the Military Than Gays

Ron Paul spoke to Iowa State's Barry Snell about a variety of topics but offered his opinion about 'DADT' and same-sex marriage:

Paul“Well, like I said, everybody has the same rights as everybody else, so homosexuals in the military isn’t a problem. It’s only if they’re doing things they shouldn’t be, if they’re disruptive. But there’s … men and women getting into trouble with each other too. And there’s a lot more heterosexuals in the military, so logically they’re causing more trouble than gays. So yes, you just have the same rules for everybody and treat them all the same.”

He also said that the government should have no say in marriage:

"You know I just, I don't think of people in little groups like that. I don't think of people as ‘gay' here and ‘black people' there, or ‘women' over here...Everybody is an individual person and everybody has the same rights as anyone else. The government has no business in your private life, you know, so if one person is allowed to do something so should everyone else. The whole gay marriage issue is a private affair and the federal government has no say."

(via think progress lgbt)

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  1. Why are we using the eyebrow photo if he is being nice

    Posted by: Mark | Oct 26, 2011 10:16:14 AM


  2. He sounds so reasonable here. You'd never know he's insane.

    Posted by: gerry | Oct 26, 2011 10:26:48 AM


  3. Let me tell everyone here something: anytime you hear a white, straight, well-to-do male say that everyone is the same, individuals are individuals and not just parts of a group, etc., he's just finding a way to keep people like him on top, and everyone else on the bottom. This old crank is crazy, but he's crazy like a fox. Don't be stupid and fall for his high-falutin' talk!

    Posted by: TANK | Oct 26, 2011 10:36:03 AM


  4. He's not wrong, though. That's the weird thing about Ron Paul. He's on-the-nose 25% of the time, and off his rocker the other 75%.

    Posted by: Gregoire | Oct 26, 2011 10:38:43 AM


  5. Wow! A positive post on Ron Paul?? I'm impressed! Now if only the overall gay population can start opening up their closed minded "must be Democrat" brains and realize that Ron Paul is an excellent choice for President. It took me awhile, but I really love this guy. He believes in rights for everyone and getting the government out of our lives. Less government, means more freedom and rights to us! And Obama, sadly, is the ultimate Big Government man.

    Posted by: brianinla | Oct 26, 2011 10:38:52 AM


  6. I'm with Tank on this.

    The first part of Paul's statement sounds quite reasonable, but the second is ridiculous. Doesn't this man know that marriage is a function of government? Doesn't he know that it's a contract issued by the state? Or has he been so brainwashed by organized religion that he thinks mariage is owned and operated by the church?

    Try getting a divirce from a church why don't you!

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Oct 26, 2011 10:44:48 AM


  7. He doesn't sound reasonable. He sounds disconnected from reality.

    Contrary to Ron's magical thinking, everybody does not have the same rights as everyone else. Ron Paul has the right to marry and has taken advantage of it--if he believes the government has no place in marriage, why does he have a civil marriage with the 1000+ benefits and protections that come only through the government. And "gay marriage" is not a "private affair" that the federal government has no say in. The federal government is saying that gay people, even though they are equal taxpaying citizens, have no right to marry whereas straight people, like Ron Paul, do. Seems like that's a say. Until fake libertarians take the government out of their own marriages, they need to stop talking about taking the government out of ours, before ours even exist.

    Posted by: Ernie | Oct 26, 2011 10:48:09 AM


  8. This is a bit interesting- especially considering he proposed a completely unconstitutional bill called the " We The People Act," that would have made it impossible to bring a lawsuit into the federal courts on any issues dealing with sexual orientation. I like what I'm hearing, but this is different then what I've been hearing before.

    Posted by: Cecilfirefox | Oct 26, 2011 10:51:14 AM


  9. As said, he is off on the government part. Government is very much involved in marriage and a ridiculous amount of benefits flow from it. Too much of them are tied to marriage, but you can't get rid of all of it.

    But he isn't a viable political candidate. He is an anarcho capitalist. His positions on economic matters and other stuff are completely crazy and unrealistic

    Posted by: Steve | Oct 26, 2011 10:55:56 AM


  10. The first comment is funny and it also underscores the inescapable reality (pay attention braying commenters who are against blogs having opinions) that blogs and all media ARE opinion; every choice is an opinion, intentional or not.

    I like the photo choice.

    Ron Paul is insane. It's great that he's saying nice things about gay men here, but he's insane. Also, he supports DOMA, so there goes that.

    And David's point is so right—the entire argument about marriage is ABOUT the government.

    Posted by: Matthew Rettenmund | Oct 26, 2011 11:07:28 AM


  11. Yeah, he supports DOMA because he thinks it's necessary for the states to make their own decisions about marriage. Which isn't true. And if he were consistent about treating gay people equally and less government intrusion into their lives, he'd be against it

    Posted by: Steve | Oct 26, 2011 11:15:22 AM


  12. I give Ron Paul credit for a consistency of message and a willingness to do as he says.

    That's 2 things more than I can credit Obama with.

    Posted by: Rich | Oct 26, 2011 11:16:46 AM


  13. Oh please, Ron Paul! You know darned well that the government will NEVER be out of the marriage business. There isn't one western government that isn't. How would one gain the federal rights and privileges that only marriage can confer? Using his argument is cover to get him off the hook.

    Further, he supports a state's right to allow the Defense of Marriage Act to be the law of any state that so legislates as well as those who don't want it. Seems like he wants it both ways. Yet another slimey way to get himself off the hook to appease other republicans.

    Posted by: robert in nyc | Oct 26, 2011 11:41:10 AM


  14. Brianinla....read my last post regarding DOMA. He'd make an excellent president? Really? In his view, there would be no repeal of DOMA and no marriage equality in every state if both are left for the states to decide.

    Posted by: robert in nyc | Oct 26, 2011 11:44:02 AM


  15. Dr. Ron Paul is without a doubt the best republican candidate running for president. It's just too bad that his Anti-War and "America First" message are DESPISED and HATED by the corporate newsmedia. That is why his campaign has been so shamelessly blacklisted by the corrupt newsmedia.

    Posted by: Robert | Oct 26, 2011 11:48:41 AM


  16. "The government has no business in your private life" - this is VERY ironic coming from someone who is so staunchly anti-abortion as well.

    Posted by: Christian | Oct 26, 2011 12:03:52 PM


  17. Ron Paul is the only candidate that will end all the wars. Both Republicans and Democrats support endless Wars for Israel, it all started nearly a decade ago under a false flag attack.
    9/11 and Israel, here:
    http://www.iuniverse.com/Bookstore/BookDetail.aspx?BookId=SKU-000190526

    Posted by: Sal K | Oct 26, 2011 12:17:20 PM


  18. Gay America needs to free it self from the false dichotomy of R vs D. There are other political view points and they do in deed and fact favor equal treatment under the law. But Gay citizens like Str8 citizens often don't bother to get educated about the political facts. Thank you Towleroad for this educational moment.

    Posted by: Sargon Bighorn | Oct 26, 2011 12:36:15 PM


  19. Sure this sounds reasonable but if he is so reasonable why was he so rude to and far from accepting of Bruno when he didn't know that there were cameras running?

    Posted by: bicurious | Oct 26, 2011 12:48:49 PM


  20. Quite frankly, Ron Paul's position sounds a lot more inclusive than our President's position. Let us not forget that our President is still "evolving" on the marriage issue.

    Posted by: MM | Oct 26, 2011 1:21:53 PM


  21. Wow! I am shocked to hear all this hate for Ron Paul. While he may not be THE candidate to support for gay rights, he's the clear leader where economics and government are concerned. He's by far the best option for President that we have right now, and I'd be elated to have him in the White House. It's just too bad the corrupt media blackball him (since they know he would knock down their house of cards).

    Posted by: OMNOMNOM | Oct 26, 2011 1:57:28 PM


  22. @OMNOMNOM

    He's decent on foreign policy, but his economics are horrible. The Gold Standard is stupid.

    Posted by: Nathan | Oct 26, 2011 2:16:24 PM


  23. Anyone who thinks Ron Paul's views on gay rights are more inclusive than the President's is misinformed. Not that he will ever be President, but--aside from the Paul trolls, who post only when he comes up--I have no idea why anyone thinks he would be good or even adequate on gay rights. Saying get the government out of marriage from a straight married man is nonsense.

    Posted by: Ernie | Oct 26, 2011 3:04:40 PM


  24. His marriage answer is a dodge. It's as logical as saying he would disband the military because there shouldn't be war.

    Posted by: BobN | Oct 26, 2011 3:08:05 PM


  25. Marriage is a social contract between consenting adults. Thus Government has no play in this.

    Posted by: Me | Oct 26, 2011 4:09:52 PM


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