Former Aide: Ron Paul ‘Personally Uncomfortable’ Sharing Bathroom Facilities and Shaking Hands with Gays

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Eric Dondero, a former Senior Aide and Campaign Organizer for Ron Paul offers his view of the candidate's alleged racism, anti-Semitism, and homophobia that has been brought to light by media via his old newsletters.

DonderoDondero says Paul is not a racist, nor an anti-Semite, though he disagrees with the state of Israel. He calls Paul "out of touch" with Black and Latino culture. As for Paul's homophobia?

Well, yes and no. He is not all bigoted towards homosexuals. He supports their rights to do whatever they please in their private lives. He is however, personally uncomfortable around homosexuals, no different from a lot of older folks of his era.

Dondero offers two stories. The first is one that involved him directly:

In 1988, Ron had a hardcore Libertarian supporter, Jim Peron, Owner of Laissez Faire Books in San Francisco. Jim set up a magnificent 3-day campaign swing for us in the SF Bay Area. Jim was what you would call very openly Gay. But Ron thought the world of him. For 3 days we had a great time trouncing from one campaign event to another with Jim’s Gay lover. The atmosphere was simply jovial between the four of us. (As an aside we also met former Cong. Pete McCloskey during this campaign trip.) We used Jim’s home/office as a “base.” Ron pulled me aside the first time we went there, and specifically instructed me to find an excuse to excuse him to a local fast food restaurant so that he could use the bathroom. He told me very clearly, that although he liked Jim, he did not wish to use his bathroom facilities. I chided him a bit, but he sternly reacted, as he often did to me, Eric, just do what I say. Perhaps “sternly” is an understatement. Ron looked at me directly, and with a very angry look in his eye, and shouted under his breath: “Just do what I say NOW.”

The second involved two other staffers and may have caused one of them to resign:

“Bobby,” a well-known and rather flamboyant and well-liked gay man in Freeport came to the BBQ. Let me stress Ron likes Bobby personally, and Bobby was a hardcore campaign supporter. But after his speech, at the Surfside pavilion Bobby came up to Ron with his hand extended, and according to my fellow staffer, Ron literally swatted his hand away.

Dondero adds:

Again, let me stress. I would not categorize that as “homo-phobic,” but rather just unsettled by being around gays personally. Ron, like many folks his age, very much supports toleration, but chooses not to be around gays on a personal level. It’s a personal choice. And though, it may seem offensive to some, he has every right in my mind to feel and act that way.

Statement from fmr. Ron Paul staffer on Newsletters, Anti-Semitism [right wing news]

Comments

  1. Reality says

    Does Ron Paul realize that as President he would be in charge of millions of gay Americans who have every right to “use the same bathroom” and “shake hands” with everyone else? This is just odd.

  2. Ludwig von Mises says

    Photographic proof that Ron Paul is a racist!!!

    The presstitute shills and the Neocons are going to pull out all of the stops against RP. And they will come down on him with both feet. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the establishment MSM so scared in my lifetime; It’s because they have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.

    By the way, if you want to see some great pictures of Ron Paul acting like a racist, then check out the following link:

    http://www.5k.com/

    Please spread these photos around!

  3. dcinsider says

    Seriously? Not a homophobe? If its not homophobic to not want to shake hands with a gay person or use the same toilet, what is? Do you have to beat one of us with your fists to qualify?

    If you can take factual statements, replace the word gay with black or Jew, and the factual statements look like racism and antisemitism, then the person is homophobic.

    Let’s see, I’m not racist, I just don’t want to shake hands with black people or share a toilet. Ooops, doesn’t work. Still a racist.

  4. Jerry says

    He should be scared, because the vast majority of gays find him incredibly sexy, I’m sure! If the average straight man knew how incredibly picky gay guys are, they’d know they have nothing to worry about. RP definitely doesn’t. Even average looking gays have trouble getting laid sometimes, but it’s always some ugly troll straight guy who thinks he’s gotta worry. RP, I promise to never try to grab your wang at a urinal. Joe Mangienello, however, had better watch out.

  5. Don't take it personally says

    Sounds more like a “germophobe” if that’s a word.

    Most doctors aren’t THAT silly. Guess that’s why he’s in politics, too afraid to touch people to practice medicine.

  6. Angela Channing says

    Don’t Take It Personally – Thank you for being a Ron Paul apologist. If Paul had mysophobia (fear of germs), then he would be afraid to shake hands with all people, or would be afraid of all public restrooms. The very fact that he would be willing to use a restroom in a fast food joint to the one that was probably impeccably clean in his “friend’s” home illustrates your contention is not true.

    This is homophobia in its rawest form.

  7. BreckRoy says

    If nothing else, I am grateful for the presidential “discovery” process, which helps us learn enough about candidates ahead of time to (usually) tip us off as to whether they are the kind of people we’d want leading and representing us. Ron Paul is offensive. Even if you take the best interpretations of all these scandals, you still get a man without enough managerial competence to review and approve what goes out under his own name (the newsletters) when he was already well into middle age and making money off of those newsletters AND a man who is just “older” and “from a different time” to the point where he won’t use a gay man’s restroom as recently as the past couple presidential campaigns. Either way, why would you elect that person president? I now, officially, find no reason to support Ron Paul for any office, at any level. He’s an offensive throwback to a time none of us should want to remember.

  8. Acronym Jim says

    But, but, but, Ron Paul is like the second coming of Jesus, and all of you are meany poopyheads for continuing this smear campaign. This is just more lamestream media propoganda. Besides, he’s NOT homophobic. The only reason he’s uncomfortable shaking hands and using the same toilets as homosexuals is all the diseases he could catch. He’s a pragamatist!!!!

    /self-deluded paulist sarcastic rant.

    Ick. After typing that now I need to go wash MY hands.

  9. AJ says

    I find it bizarre and disturbing how each one of these candidates is being picked off one by one. It’s a little reminiscent of an 80s slasher movie. Makes me wonder what’s really going on.

  10. TJ says

    Not much crazy here… yet. But before it starts: reading the other post and the PDF of the newsletter, my memory was jogged about having actually received/read those newsletters back then. What I remember from reading them was thinking that the guy (or even a guy who’d let stuff like it go out with his name attached) was scary. I see that not much has changed. Preferable to the other GOP contenders? Sounds like a no-win situation to me.

  11. Gregv says

    I listened to an interview he did with an Evangelical wingnut in which Ron Paul referred to homosexuality as “a problem” and inwhich he also said that he wanted to keep the DADT policy Because it was working fine and nobody, heterosexual or homosexual, should be bringing sexuality in the military.
    How could anyone who claims to be for freedom for all individuals look at a policy that makes only ONE category of person have to lie and hide his back-home dating or family life around colleagues and so ignorantly say it’s
    fair or working?
    Members of the military with opposite-sex partners very openly spoke about their partners back home (there was NO threat of dismissal for using the accurate pronoun when discussing vacation plans in the mess hall) and even participated in live scenes of homecoming kisses in media like morning news shows all the time (which was grounds for firing if the partner was same-sex).
    He is either too ignorant and naive to understand the very clear discrepancy in treatment that is BLATANTLY stated in the policy or he is, indeed, homophobic. There is no way to look at his statements and paint him as some kind of champion of freedom and equality under the law.

  12. Dan says

    He may not be foaming at the mouth homophobic like, say, Santorum, but this is exactly the kind of behavior that’s the definition of homophobia.

    And while he may support our rights to do what we want in our private lives, he also supports the rights of others to react and take action as they see fit – it’s not a lack of bigotry, he just wants the government to stay out of it and look the other way, and let whatever happens, happen.

  13. Paul says

    The guy is as dumb and as nasty the rest of the GOP field. I’ve never been convinced that he’s a friend to us and our cause – no matter what my “Libertarian” friends tell me.

  14. TJ says

    “Homophobia” means “fear of homosexuals”. If Ron Paul is SCARED of using a bathroom that gay men use regularly (note, it’s not because he’s afraid of being cruised – it was a bathroom in a private home), then he’s scared of gay men. If he’s SCARED of shaking hands with gay men, then he’s scared of gay men. The man may support gay rights (or he may just pay lip service), but he most definitely is scared of gay men and therefore a homophobe.

  15. says

    “Again, let me stress. I would not categorize that as ‘homo-phobic,’ but rather just unsettled by being around gays personally. Ron, like many folks his age, very much supports toleration, but chooses not to be around gays on a personal level. It’s a personal choice. And though, it may seem offensive to some, he has every right in my mind to feel and act that way.”

    Apparently, Dondero doesn’t understand the meaning of the word “homophobic” because everything he is saying about Paul is the perfect, literal description of homophobia. One wonders how crazier scared-er of gay people Paul needs to get before the delusional Paul apologists would categorize his irrational fear of homosexuals as homophobia?

  16. Don't take it personally says

    My Dear Angela, or should I say Ms. Channing?:

    I was not trying to provide cover for Dr. Paul but merely pointing out his irrationality. His particular germophobia is apparently AIDS related. Irrationality knows no bounds but is free to take off in any direction while avoiding other directions.

    Yes, he is nuts. But in a walking around sort of way, not certifiable, yet. He is quite willing to make any association that might further his agenda, but he probably would like to wear rubber gloves and can’t find a way to do it without taking a step closer to the looney bin.

  17. says

    He is for letting equality stop being a federal matter. He is for free choice of the states….. now compared to everyone else in the field- Why would we be trying sway votes away from this guy?

  18. Don't take it personally says

    @James: He is for state’s rights because he expects states to be anti-gay rights.

    For Ron Paul it would be OK if southern states had slaves, as long as they voted for it fair and square.

  19. says

    “He is for letting equality stop being a federal matter.”

    True, James, and beyond the fact that he’s a homophobic old coot, this is a reason why gay people should not be supporting Ron Paul. He doesn’t believe in equality, period.

  20. Nat says

    “@James: He is for state’s rights because he expects states to be anti-gay rights.

    For Ron Paul it would be OK if southern states had slaves, as long as they voted for it fair and square.”

    Thank you, I’m glad to see that this crucial limitation to Paul’s supposed libertarianism is sinking in.

  21. Nat says

    More specifically:

    A gay person may elect not to regard marriage equality as a high priority. They may rationally choose other priorities, for whatever reason. But there is no rational reason for supporting Paul, because is absolutist view of states rights necessarily extends to a permissiveness that includes a state enacting incredibly repressive laws that would take decades – regardless of shifts in public sentiment – to be removed. There is no rational reason for a gay person to support a candidate who supports that view. There are other truly libertarian candidates that are interested in actual equality, founded on the supremacy of individual liberty, and unblemished by any deference to states.

  22. shadow_man says

    We need to get the word out to religious communities that anti-gay people are twisting God’s words to condone their hate.

    Homosexuality is not a sin. The Bible is constantly being taken out of context to support anti-gay views. Scholars who have studied the Bible in context of the times and in relation to other passages have shown those passages (Leviticus, Corinthians, Romans, etc) have nothing to do with homosexuality. These passages often cherry-picked while ignoring the rest of the Bible. The sins theses passages are referring to are idolatry, Greek temple sex worship, prostitution, pederasty with teen boys, and rape, not homosexuality or two loving consenting adults.

    http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm
    http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html
    http://www.christchapel.com/reclaiming.html
    http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalReferences.php
    http://www.gaychristian101.com/

  23. shadow_man says

    This is the perfect example of how anti-gay people change the bible’s words for their anti-gay agenda.

    Corinthians 6:9-11
    Let us examine that very closely.

    Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [malakoi], nor homosexual offenders [arsenokoites], nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God.

    First of all, before we address this line, let us consider one thing. Supposedly taken from a 2000+ year old book, understand that the word “homosexual” was not coined until 1869 by Austrian-born novelist Karl-Maria Kertbeny. So how it happens to be included in a true reading of the particular biblical passage should make you ponder how accurate the interpretation actually is. So man changing the words of the Bible to conveniently spread hate?

    Absolutely.

  24. shadow_man says

    For those of you claiming homosexuality is a “lifestyle”, that is a false and ignorant statement. Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don’t choose the color of your skin, you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to. Virtually all major psychological and medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Most gay people will tell you its not a choice. Common sense will tell you its not a choice. While science is relatively new to studying homosexuality, studies tend to indicate that its biological.

    http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/03/differential-brain-activation.pdf
    http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html
    Gay, Straight Men’s Brain Responses Differ
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155990,00.html
    http://www.livescience.com/health/060224_gay_genes.html
    http://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/
    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/16/172/

    There is overwhelming scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Sexual orientation is generally a biological trait that is determined pre-natally, although there is no one certain thing that explains all of the cases. “Nurture” may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.

    And it should also be noted that:
    “It is worth noting that many medical and scientific organizations do believe it is impossible to change a person’s sexual orientation and this is displayed in a statement by American Academy of Pediatrics, American Counseling Association, American Association of School Administrators, American Federation of Teachers, American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, American School Health Association, Interfaith Alliance Foundation, National Association of School Psychologists, National Association of Social Workers, and National Education Association.”

  25. shadow_man says

    This was taken from another poster that shows why we need to legalize gay marriage. If you don’t feel for this person after reading it, you simply aren’t human.

    “I am not sure what our President thinks of this dicission but coming from a poor family and knowing what discrimination is all about I would assume he would not care if “Gays” have equal rights. The whole reason why they are asking for rights to be considered married is from the same reason why I would be for it. My own life partner commited suicide in our home with a gun to his heart. After a 28 year union I was deprived to even go his funeral. We had two plots next to each other. But because we did not have a marriage cirtificate “(Legal Document)” of our union his mother had him cremated and his ashes taken back to Missouri where we came from. That is only one example how painful it is. His suicide tramatized me so much and her disregard for my feelings only added to my heartach. That happened on March 21 of 2007 and I still cannot type this without crying for the trauma I have to endure each day. Oh did I mention I am in an electric wheelchair for life? Yes I am and it is very diffacult to find another mate when you are 58 and in a wheelchair. ”

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