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Gay Malaysian Man's Wedding in Ireland Sparks Fury at Home, Government Action

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Ariff Alfian Rosli, a Malaysian national who has been studying in Ireland for eight years, is under fire from his home country after photos were published showing his wedding to his civil partner (identified only as Jonathan) at Dublin City Hall, the Irish Times reports:

The pictures were published on the front pages of some local newspapers and have been the source of criticism from numerous political groups in Malaysia, where same-sex sexual relationships are illegal and punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

The Malaysian police have been urged by Muslim groups to investigate the issue on the basis that Mr Rosli has failed to adhere to the country’s Islamic laws. The controversy has prompted the Malaysian prime minister’s office to issue a statement pledging to investigate the matter.

An official from Malaysia’s ruling political party is reportedly due to arrive in Dublin later this week to convince Mr Rosli to return home.

AriffSaid Rosli:

“I am not missing. The Irish authorities know I am legally resident here. The Malaysian embassy has also been aware for several years that I am residing here legally. I feel I have have been inadvertently thrust into the public eye. I just want to get by without upsetting anyone or causing any trouble. My overriding concern is for my family.”

The Malaysian Insider reports:

Local criticism of the same-sex union has been swift and harsh, with mainly Muslim users attacking Ariff Alfian on Twitter for straying from Islam and dishonouring his family.

“Ariff Alfian Rosli is a disgrace! Rot in hell!” user @DTOTHEZAK wrote on the popular micro-blogging site.

Another user, @shkyla, wrote: “Looking at those wedding pictures of Ariff Alfian, makes me want to vomit. Blergh, disgusting.”

Muslim groups have also been quick to condemn Ariff Alfian, with the Kepong Islamic Youth Organisation (PBIK) lodging a police report yesterday over his alleged failure to adhere to Malaysia’s Islamic laws. Other critics have taken a different tack, preferring instead to “rehabilitate” what they saw as a Muslim who had strayed far from the teachings of Islam. This includes the Facebook group, “The Campaign to Bring Ariff Alfian Rosli Home to Malaysia to Save His Faith”, which was set up on Saturday.

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  1. I pray (irony intended) that he can stay in Ireland beyond his visa expiration as a 'religiously persecuted person' and won't have to go back to Malaysia. If he does he'll be jailed and tortured for his orientation.

    Some days, I just can't stand the world.

    Posted by: princely54 | Dec 20, 2011 9:33:06 AM


  2. In Ireland we don't accept the right of any country to interfere with our internal affairs.
    That's why we sent the Vatican Ambassador packing back to the Latern Palace ( well, more or less).
    If Ariff is legally in Ireland he has every right under local law to enter a Civil Union with the same rights as a married couple.
    And if anyone arrives in Ireland "from the ruling political party" in Malaysia arrest them for conduct likely to lead to a breach of the peace or conspiracy to kidnap.
    His religion has absolutely nothing to do with our Civil Law. This disrespect by Malaysia for the internal civil law of another country is just rabid bigotry.
    Ariff should stay in Ireland where he is safe from the homophobes of Malaysia.

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Dec 20, 2011 9:35:10 AM


  3. He doesn't have to go back there if he doesn't want to. Apparently an Malaysian official is coming over to try and convince him to go to Malaysia because he can't be deported. I hope he doesn't go for his own well being and safety.

    Posted by: Joseph | Dec 20, 2011 9:37:03 AM


  4. And another thing : they both look great .....congratulations and I hope they will have a wonderful life in ireland.

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Dec 20, 2011 9:41:02 AM


  5. Wow. One more of the seemingly infinite reasons why the separation of secular government and religion is desperately needed.

    The response from these Muslim extremists is vile and despicable. The fact that their religion has such a profound impact on their legislation and rules is absolutely disgusting.

    However- if anyone thinks this is symptomatic soley of the Islamic religion they are deluding themselves. Just look at the Christian extremist bigots in our own nation. Does anyone honestly think the rules they enforce if they were in control of our government would be any different?

    I'll answer that one for you: they wouldn't.

    Posted by: AedanCRoberts | Dec 20, 2011 9:42:43 AM


  6. As bad as Christians are, Muslims are worse.

    Central to both religions is the need to maximize the number of followers through procreation, spreading the faith and converting and "saving" as many people as possible.

    While there are practical reasons to maximize the number of followers, wouldn't these religions be better-off if they practiced a live-and-let-live philosophy? Of course they won't, but imagine what good religions could do for the world if they were less self-centered.

    Posted by: Chris | Dec 20, 2011 9:45:19 AM


  7. @ AEDANCROBERTS:

    My comment was not a response to yours...I absolutely agree with you...Chris.

    Posted by: Chris | Dec 20, 2011 9:49:11 AM


  8. I hope he doesn't go back: it could be literally a fatal mistake. "Save his faith" my ass. It's more like "Get him within stoning range."

    Posted by: justinw | Dec 20, 2011 9:52:42 AM


  9. Is there a way that Ireland can not allow the Malaysian official into the country?? Wouldn't that be sweet??

    Posted by: princely54 | Dec 20, 2011 9:54:45 AM


  10. This is basically a domestic disagreement playing itself out in public. Dad disapproved of Son, Son cut off contact with Dad, Dad reported Son missing.

    It probably doesn't help matters that Ariff has been sponsored to study in Ireland by the Malaysian oil company Petronas.

    Posted by: Andrew | Dec 20, 2011 9:58:06 AM


  11. So basically they just want him back so they can lock him up? SMH!

    Posted by: Monsieur R | Dec 20, 2011 9:58:31 AM


  12. @Prince54:
    Yes, a visa/or entry can be refused to anyone trying to enter Ireland for the purpose of committing a crime. Or the dept. of Foreign Affairs can just declare him persona non grata and refuse entry.

    Or we could let him in and beat the living sh*t out of him.

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Dec 20, 2011 10:00:23 AM


  13. Oh those Muslims ... perhaps someday they will realize that the Christian law "what one sows, so shall they reap" transcends even into the Muslim religion. Hate - Hate - Hate ! I always felt religion was a spiritual place of love and kindness. Could have fooled me.

    Posted by: GaybyGod | Dec 20, 2011 10:03:48 AM


  14. Congratulations to the couple and I hope they have a wonderful fruitful life on the Emerald Isle. Best wishes to both...and kudos to Ireland for giving them a legally-recognized partnership.

    Posted by: Raleighrob | Dec 20, 2011 10:04:30 AM


  15. Religionists = retards

    Really can't be put any other way

    Posted by: Steve | Dec 20, 2011 10:17:46 AM


  16. Right, they want to convince him to return voluntarily to Malaysia, where same-sex sexual relationships are illegal and punishable by up to 20 years in prison? Good luck with that!

    He's in a civil partnership: he has every right to stay in Ireland.
    If only it were so simple here in the US :-(

    Posted by: KevinVT | Dec 20, 2011 10:17:56 AM


  17. Note to Malaysia and Islam: He's just not that into you. Get over it.

    Posted by: Anastasia Beaverhausen | Dec 20, 2011 10:19:14 AM


  18. Also, since he is married to an Irishman, he can probably obtain citizenship or at least a residency permit that way. The EU isn't like the US

    Posted by: Steve | Dec 20, 2011 10:19:18 AM


  19. @Steve & KevinVT :

    Yes, he has a right to stay in Ireland both because of his studying and because he is now in a Civil Partnership with an Irish citizen.

    We don't have a bigoted DOMA; which has hurt many of us "foreigners" in our relationships with US citizens.

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Dec 20, 2011 10:25:05 AM


  20. Hmm...I don't think there is a law in M'sia that will enable the authority to lock him up just because he got married. However there is a law against the act of sodomy.

    Anyway, I am truly embarrassed by this. Another great move from the bigoted M'sia Gov.

    Posted by: Malaysian | Dec 20, 2011 10:30:00 AM


  21. He would be crazy to return. They would put him on trial to make an example of him. If he didn't renounce his civil union he would be sent to prison.

    Islam may be a "religion of peace" but that's only true for those who believe as they do. In some of those countries if a Muslim dares to convert to Christianity his life is in danger. If a woman reports a rape, she will be charged with adultery, unless she agrees to marry her rapist. If teenagers are convicted of engaging in gay sex, they will be imprisioned until they turn 18 and then hanged. Even if they're not yet 18 they are sometimes hanged. Happens all the time in Iran.

    This man is now a public figure in Indonesia. He would be a fool to return. He needs to find an American or European oil company to take over his education and future employment.

    Posted by: Ninong | Dec 20, 2011 10:30:38 AM


  22. WOW, those guys make southern baps look gentle...(of course they re NOT) same agenda,dame narrow mind

    Posted by: codyj | Dec 20, 2011 10:37:29 AM


  23. If ever I complain that life in Canada isn't all it's cracked up to be, will you please SLAP ME IN THE FACE? I guess I'll be scratching Malaysia off my "must visit" list.

    Posted by: Gigi | Dec 20, 2011 11:31:28 AM


  24. Kiss his ass, Malaysia...Kiss. His. Ass.

    Posted by: Hollywood, CA | Dec 20, 2011 12:03:57 PM


  25. Kill the Malaysian Prime Minister!

    Posted by: Willard | Dec 20, 2011 12:04:12 PM


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