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Rick and Karen Santorum Questioned by Woman with Gay Son: VIDEO


At a campaign stop in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina today, a woman told Rick and Karen Santorum that she's trying to reconcile her support for him with the fact that her son is gay and he and his friends react poorly at the mention of Santorum's name because they think he hates gay people.

Replied Karen Santorum: "I think it's very sad what the gay activists have done out there. They've vilified him and it's so wrong. Rick does not hate anyone. He loves them. What he has simply said is marriage shouldn't happen. But as far as hating, it's very unfortunate that that has happened. And a lot of it is backyard bullying."

Said Rick: "This is a public policy difference. And the problem is that some see that as a personal assault."

He went on to reply that children deserve a mother and father and unless that is promoted there will be less of it," adding: .. There's all sorts of other relationships that people have, and they are valuable relationships -- whether they are amorous relationships or friendship relationships or familial relationships -- they're all important, they all have value they  all should be affirmed. But that does not mean that we should change the laws to order -- to create an atmosphere where children and families are not being promoted."


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  1. No -- Rick doesn't hate us -- he doesn't hate gay people! He just thinks we shouldn't exist or have lives or the pursuit of happiness. Hate in the name oct God or morality is still hate. I honestly think these people suffer from a psychosocial illness; an unwillingness to empathize or understand people who are different from them and the willingness to be destructive towards what they do not understand -- or even care to understand. These folks live in a fantasy-land. To borrow a phrase from AA: Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

    Posted by: Alex Parrish | Jan 16, 2012 6:02:54 PM

  2. "This is a public policy difference. And the problem is that some see that as a personal assault."

    Pardon me, Mr. Santorum, but if you want to make the most important relationship in my life illegal, then how much more f*ing personal can you get?

    Posted by: BABH | Jan 16, 2012 6:06:00 PM

  3. He babbles out absolute rubbish to try and defend his nonsensical argument. "Change the laws to order to to create an atmosphere where children and families are not being promoted" What a crock of ****.

    Mr Santorum makes me so angry. Is he not aware of all the same sex parented families that currently exist even without marriage equality? They haven't caused the apocalypse and they certainly haven't demoted children and families. *facepalm*

    Posted by: aaaaargh | Jan 16, 2012 6:12:03 PM

  4. Remember: he doesn't just want to ban gay marriage, he wants to overturn Lawrence v. Texas so that sheriffs can start throwing 'sodomites' in jail again.

    Posted by: BABH | Jan 16, 2012 6:13:03 PM

  5. Of course he's aware of them. And their existence angers him and the woman he's married to WHO GOT AN ABORTION AGAINST CATHOLIC CHURCH LAW!

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Jan 16, 2012 6:17:48 PM

  6. At the bottom of the article, the mother goes on to say her son doesn't have a problem with Santorum's stance on gay marraige because the son (who's gay) doesn't support gay marriage either. Wow. What self-respecting gay man doesn't support gay marriage (he might not want to get married but at least others should have the right). I feel bad for him - and I can't wait for Santorum to quit the race and disappear back into the woodwork.

    Posted by: KP | Jan 16, 2012 6:21:10 PM

  7. Well, Obama doesn't support gay marriage either, so what's the difference?

    Perhaps someone should ask Obama the very same question at a campaign stop.

    Posted by: jason | Jan 16, 2012 6:22:45 PM

  8. S******m is saying that love between people of the same sex is less valuable, in the clearest of words. But having experienced such love, I can tell you positively, it is not and for him to claim so is offensive and it is bigoted. He's telling mother that her son is incapable of the most valuable sort of loving that he sees. If I were her, I would have probably involuntarily spit in his face.

    Posted by: Kári Emil | Jan 16, 2012 6:23:57 PM

  9. This mother might love her son so very much, but has a short circuit somewhere if she would rather support Santorum over the welfare of her own child. How Santorum would react in the face of LGBT equality issues is quite clear. He would not support ENDA, whether transgender inclusive or not. He would repeal DADT. He would repeal the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd hate crimes prevention act (or at least the Matthew Shepard side of it). He supports a federal marriage amendment. He supports heavy prosecution of LGBT men and women who stand up to and fight back against Christian-led tyranny of LGBT people.

    Santorum would create an America where her own son could be fired from or passed over in being hired for a job because he is gay. So let's hope her son never has a homophobic employer or a homophobic landlord. Let's hope her son never falls in love with a foreign-born partner. Let's hope her son never has to endure being rejected from an emergency room when his long-term partner falls ill. Let's hope her son never encounters neighbors who would vandalize his property or physically assault him over and over again on the basis of sexual orientation only to have the charges against them be misdemeanor assault or vandalism instead of felony assault or vandalism as a hate crime.

    Santorum is perfectly okay with states using their powers to persecute gay men and women on the basis of their being in a sexual relationship. He has spoken against the decision in Lawrence v. Texas. Santorum supports creating a nation where the only household composition that could exists without legal punishment would be one between a monogomous, heterosexual couple. He has gone on record stating that states should regulate private households to ensure that a man or woman cannot have sex with anyone other than their spouse, that consenting adults cannot form polyamorous relationships, that gay couples cannot form monogamous relationships.

    Santorum has gone on record stating that he believes it is the government's right AND responsibility to "regulate" (his words) the sexual/romantic behavior of American citizens. This is NOT small government.

    Santorum supports transforming this nation into one of equality and small government into one of inequality, where relationships of gay couples are treated as undesired/temporary and where the government exists to define the laws surrounding LGBT men and women.

    This woman and her son are so incredibly blind to the truth behind what Santorum would do to her own son. I am astonished that they are unable to see that Santorum is not right for them. Shame on her.

    Posted by: RJS | Jan 16, 2012 6:32:11 PM

  10. Some people take it as a personal assault? Might it be because it IS a personal assault. When you're telling people that their most intimate relationships aren't worthy of recognition; that's about as personal as you can get.

    The Cult of Civility that politicians insulate themselves in to evade tough questions gets ridiculous sometimes. I'm all for trying to be respectful when discussing things like politics or religion, but don't expect me to sit here and remain perfectly calm while you tell me my relationship is the equivalent of a guy f*cking a goat. It isn't just a policy difference when you're the one who's effected by it.

    Posted by: Blaine | Jan 16, 2012 6:33:37 PM

  11. That's his wife? I expected plaid over white lace with a big matching hair ribbon bow on top of her head.

    Posted by: Mark | Jan 16, 2012 6:37:22 PM

  12. It's funny how people can believe really awful, denigrating, and even inhuman things and imagine that they are actually full of love and compassion.

    More to the point that actions matter, not words. Speak of love all you want, when you are actively trying to hurt people, your love counts for nothing but your own selfish device to help you sleep at night.

    Posted by: Jason 2 | Jan 16, 2012 6:38:43 PM

  13. Obama is no different to Santorum on the issue of gay marriage. If you're going to be angry, be angry with Obama too.

    Posted by: jason | Jan 16, 2012 6:42:23 PM

  14. "Well, Obama doesn't support gay marriage either, so what's the difference?

    Perhaps someone should ask Obama the very same question at a campaign stop."

    The difference being Obama hasn't and won't try to pass an Federal Amendment dissolving all marriages of gay individuals. The difference is Obama isn't going to reinstate DADT. The difference is Obama isn't actively attacking the rights of gay individuals.

    I'd rather an indifferent president than one who has repeatedly stated that he will do everything in his power to dissolve all of the laws which have so far been on the path to equal treatment. If you are incapable of even that modicum of perception, then I seriously question your mental capability.

    Posted by: LiamB | Jan 16, 2012 6:48:09 PM

  15. @Jason

    Obama's opinion on gay marriage is "evolving," which means that to get elected POTUS one has to pretend not to support SSM because one cannot get elected in these United States if they say they support it. Sad, but true. Once in office he's shown more support for the gay community that any other President in history. Sanatorium might say he doesn't "hate" us, but thst's just a game of semantics. I was told that I shouldn't say that I "hate" anything or anyone because it's not polite. Ricky must have been raised the same way. Doesn't "hate" us but feels we don't deserve the same rights and freedoms as "normal" folks.

    Posted by: Gigi | Jan 16, 2012 6:49:04 PM

  16. He insists that gays be treated as less than straights. He wants the laws to benefit straights and not gays. He wants gays to pay for the benefits afforded straights and not to gays. His excuse for this discrimination is because it has always been that way (so he says) and the bible says it is so. He is a bigot. end of conversation.

    Posted by: candideinnc | Jan 16, 2012 6:51:55 PM

  17. Obama is certainly different. Even other credibly foes of gay marriage aren't as bad as Santorum.

    Obama's opposition is transparently political and dishonest. He tries to have it both ways. Before considering federal office, he even wrote that he supported gay marriage.

    Santorum, however, convinces that he's serious and not just pandering in respect to his stances about gay marriage and LGBT people.

    Posted by: Chris AE | Jan 16, 2012 6:51:56 PM

  18. I might also add, Obama has gone on record saying he supports Civil Unions with all the same rights as marriage, just not the name. Sanatorium believes that gay relationships shouldn't even exist. There is seriously no rational comparison you can make between the two.

    Posted by: LiamB | Jan 16, 2012 6:54:17 PM

  19. Discrimination = Policy. That makes it okay(?) A vote for Santorum is a vote for Policy. You do the math.

    Posted by: Sargon Bighorn | Jan 16, 2012 6:56:52 PM

  20. He can spin it anyway he wants, he may not hate us, but he has said hateful and untrue things about us.

    Posted by: QJ201 | Jan 16, 2012 6:57:21 PM

  21. These wignuts need to learn the definition of bullying. Her husband is the one who has likened gay people to those who abuse children and animals, even though he can't produce any proof to back up that claim. He's also said that he's going to discriminate against people who are gay, if he becomes President. So, it would seem that he is the one who is the bully.

    Posted by: cadence | Jan 16, 2012 7:00:34 PM

  22. just shows the double standards that society has. It supports SINGLE PARENTING, A FATHERLESS SOCIETY.

    Yet, it has the audacity to say that kids need a Mum & dad. Not 2 dads, but it is okay to have a mum only. The hypocrisy is amazing.

    Posted by: radical53 | Jan 16, 2012 7:01:43 PM

  23. Right..I'm selling the Golden Gate Bridge at a cheap price.

    Posted by: M. Scott Hernandez | Jan 16, 2012 7:02:42 PM

  24. Here, Rick. Read this:

    Posted by: Jeff Kurtti | Jan 16, 2012 7:17:18 PM

  25. This victim mantra is getting REAL old REAL fast. Since they can't get anywhere with hatred, they'll try crocodile tears. YES, Santorum, you DO hate gay people. Enough with your version of semantics. What is is, and it will never be anything else. It was BAD ENOUGH when they were spouting hatred, but this martyr act is just too nauseating.

    Posted by: Matt | Jan 16, 2012 7:31:48 PM

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