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GOProud Founders Discuss Rejection from CPAC, Why They Support Anti-Gay Candidates: VIDEO

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On CNN's Early Start with Ashleigh Banfield and Zoraida Sambolin, GOProud co-founders Jimmy LaSalvia and Chris Barron came on to discuss their rejection from CPAC and why they're devoted to a party and movement that rejects them because they're gay.

Watch, AFTER THE JUMP...

The rest of the conversation, which gets cut off, went like this:

BANFIELD:  Here's the thing that gets confusing to some people who might be watching right now.  And that is, I mean, I don't want to be so foolish to say, gee, how can a gay group be conservative since there seems to be competing messages?

But I will tell you this, I got a release from you guys back in January 27 saying after last night's Republican debate one thing is clear, any one of the four remaining GOP presidential candidates would be a dramatic improvement over the failed presidency of Barack Obama.

So any one of the four would include Rick Santorum and wow, I think a lot of gay people who don't belong to your group would be astounded by that comment because here's one of the comments that in 2003, Rick Santorum made about gay people and gay rights, et cetera. And I’ll read directly, "If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual gay sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have to right to adultery, you have the right to anything." I remember when that blew up big for the senator and I think that led to the inability to Google Rick Santorum's name without seeing a lot of really gross stuff.  How do you guys reconcile this?  How do you say he's better than Barack Obama when he says this specifically about you?

BARRON:  Well, let's be clear.  First off, we strongly disagree with what Rick Santorum said there.  Those comments are absolutely outrageous.  Secondly, Rick Santorum is not going to be the nominee of this party. I know that the mainstream media and some in the party want to continue the charade that there is a horse race going on here.  Rick Santorum is not even on the ballot.

BANFIELD:  He's won three states.  He swept them with huge numbers.

BARRON:  John McCain lost 19 states, 17 of those after he won in South Carolina and Florida and his nomination was never in question. The bottom line is the only candidate who has a national organization that can win this primary is Mitt Romney.  I mean, we can continue to pretend that there's a horse race and I know that the media wants to pretend like there's a horse race.

BANFIELD:  Let me give you that.  Let me give you that one, guys.  That's Rick Santorum.  Now the other candidates as well that you're supporting also support the idea that gays shouldn't serve in the military. And they also support the idea that there should be a constitutional amendment to prevent gay marriage in this country.  That doesn't seem like it's in sync with what you would want in your candidate?

LASALVIA:  That's not exactly true.  Ron Paul doesn't support the constitutional amendment and even Mitt Romney went so far so say it's not likely.  That particular proposal has lost support ever since it first failed in Congress in 2004. The reality is, we're all living in this Obama economy.  Gay people are living in the Obama economy, too.  And we've got to come together.  Gay and straight, liberal and conservative, and fire the president. That's what we have to do as is a country.  We have to look at who is best positioned and best able to do that.  And to fix the problems that everyone, including gay people care about, those kitchen table issues that everyone is worried about right now.

 BARRON:  And the left would have you believe that the only thing that gay people care about is military service and marriage.  And while those are important issues, the fact is, is that gay people care about things like the economy and jobs and retirement security.

BANFIELD:  I appreciate it.  Jimmy LaSalvia and Chris Barron, I could go on for a whole lot longer and I do appreciate you guys coming to talk to us today.

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  1. I would try to feel sorry for them if they weren't so stupid. You don't have to align yourself with Republicans (who want you dead) to advance whatever your "conservative" values are. But that is exactly what they do and the *only* message they are capable of portraying in this manner is that they are mental and emotional wrecks. They've no one to blame but their own ignorant selves.

    Posted by: Rick | Feb 10, 2012 10:21:47 AM


  2. Go Who?

    Posted by: Christopher | Feb 10, 2012 10:24:47 AM


  3. Mr. Salvia and Mr. Barron, regardless of being GAY, are just as two-faced, irrational power/attention grabbers as the rest of the GOP. I am definitely not PROUD to be "their kind of Gay."

    Banfield hit 'it' on the head about Rick Santorum's condemnation of Gays, but "the boys" still think HE would be better than Obama ?

    WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE ???

    Posted by: BUTCH JEROME | Feb 10, 2012 10:25:32 AM


  4. So, what I take away from this is that they're single-issue voters who are wealthy enough to not need to worry about GLBT equality, and would rather campaign to make themselves as wealthy as possible.

    Which means that they've said nothing new. It's really not that hard to see how greedy jerks could work against us in order to pursue their own narrow self-interest.

    Posted by: JD | Feb 10, 2012 10:28:30 AM


  5. "why they're devoted to a party and movement that rejects them because they're gay"

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Posted by: Henry Holland | Feb 10, 2012 10:31:27 AM


  6. Words fail. LaSalvia and Barron represent an organization that does not care one bit about equality for GLBT persons. Santorum would be better than Obama....really?

    They care about two things...their pocketbook and their protected position in society. Do not be mistaken..they represent the gay 1%...or folks that aspire to be one percenters. They have no compassion or time for anything that money or influence cannot purchase.

    They make me sick.

    Posted by: excy | Feb 10, 2012 10:32:49 AM


  7. Roy Cohn and Clyde Tolson should be discussing bad comb-overs, spray tanning and constipation. Which from the looks of those two they are both experts in. Was the idiot on the left sending Morse code with the constant blinking? Here’s the thing girls the conservatives hate you, they really, really hate you. PS most of the gays do too. Get the message.

    Posted by: ggreen | Feb 10, 2012 10:35:32 AM


  8. These guys continue to astound me. They WILL wake up one day and be very sorry for their anti-gay stance.

    Posted by: Ian | Feb 10, 2012 10:37:55 AM


  9. These confused robots always say the same thing "it's the economy, it's the economy!" You know what - some of us don't want to live in an "economy" that is intent on taking our rights and denying us the exact same privileges that every other tax paying American citizen enjoys solely because of their "accepted" sexual persuasion.

    Posted by: Bill | Feb 10, 2012 10:44:50 AM


  10. Jewish Nazis

    Posted by: John Normile | Feb 10, 2012 10:46:24 AM


  11. Always amazes me how these $35k millionaires think they are on their way to the .5% .

    Posted by: TexGuy | Feb 10, 2012 10:48:23 AM


  12. Henry

    actually their support and all GOproud types = racism plain and simple

    "by gosh Obama is Black, didn't you know" is what they really want to say

    Posted by: say what | Feb 10, 2012 11:00:06 AM


  13. Lookin at these two yahoos reminds me of the boys who used to sit around and sip their g&t's at the Pharr Laibrary in Atlanta in 1985. This type has the preppy handbook stuck so far up their backside they can read it with their stomach. Its a an outdated culture. One that I remember well. Its a Southern and maybe an East Coast phenom of 40 and 50 something boyz who grew up under reagan. Poor things. Dad jeans and yachts and plaid pants and preffering to sit at the back of the bus, just so you can keep your nostalgia? pathetic

    Posted by: stevenelliot | Feb 10, 2012 11:00:47 AM


  14. They said in their press release that ANY of the four remaining candidates would be an improvement over Barack Obama, but when questioned directly about the hateful statements of one of those four candidates, Barron essentially says Oh, well that one won't be the nominee.

    That didn't answer the quest, Chris! If you're going to dismiss those who hate gays as you did Santorum, you'll need to dismiss all four of those remaining candidates. And THEN whatcha got?

    Posted by: sparks | Feb 10, 2012 11:03:43 AM


  15. Ashley let them get away with deflecting the question. She had specifically asked why they support Santorum over Obama so "he's not likely to win isn't an answer. And Mitt Romney isn't "likely" to succeed in changing the constitution, well, that deflected the question again.

    What if a black man said he supports the Klan's Grand Dragon for President and when asked why, he said that his reasons are not important because he isn't likely to win and yes, all of his favorite guys want to change the Constitution to make blacks non-persons but that initiative "isn't likely" to succeed.
    People would recognize that he is crazy. ANY kind of economic initiative mean nothing to these two guys if they were locked in jail as Santorum would have it.
    And all that is beside the more minor point that they're also delusional if they can't look at the numbers and see that for all the Republican talk about fiscal responsibility and booming economy, it's been nothing but empty rhetoric for 35 years.
    Canada did not follow Dubya's lead of deregulating the financial system and a thousand other dumb moves, and has been relatively unscathed by the overwhelming financial crisis that was handed to Obama to try to clean up when he took office.

    Posted by: Gregv | Feb 10, 2012 11:08:13 AM


  16. "BARRON: And the left would have you believe that the only thing that gay people care about is military service and marriage. And while those are important issues, the fact is, is that gay people care about things like the economy and jobs and retirement security."

    Actually, Chris, gay people--including your version of "the left" (anyone less right-wing than you)--do indeed care about things like the economy and jobs and retirement security, and unless you're a zillionaire, the Republicans suck on those things, too, as was evidenced by the last Republican administration, when the economy first tanked. Why would making the interests of zillionaires your first priority resonate with most non-zillionaire gay people? The mind boggles. (And, BTW, DOMA hits gay people directly in their wallets, among other places.)

    Posted by: Ernie | Feb 10, 2012 11:09:43 AM


  17. Sad, self loathing men.

    Posted by: db | Feb 10, 2012 11:17:38 AM


  18. Lol, what in the world makes Jimmy LaSalvia and Chris Barron think they represent gay people? They represent their bank accounts and don't give a damn about gay rights. These two will sell their souls to the devil for a tax cut, sick.

    "the Obama economy" is a lot better than the mess Bush and the GOP left us with!

    Posted by: NY2.0 | Feb 10, 2012 11:18:15 AM


  19. We are still living in the Hangover of the George Bush II economy...

    Posted by: Tom in long beach | Feb 10, 2012 11:20:01 AM


  20. Actually, I will give them the point that gays (at least this one) care more about the economy than gay marriage (I'm in an 11 year relationship) and serving in the military is not really applicable to me personally (yeah, I'm too old!) Now don't get me wrong, I am in favor of these things, 100%, but my biggest concern is the economy. On that front, I don't get their assessment that Obama is a total failure. The Bush policies are what drove this country off a financial cliff and things are slowly getting better. I, like may, are somewhat disappointed that Obama is the chief compromiser more than the bold leader we had hoped for, but his approach may be wiser in the long run and let's face it, he showed real cajones by sending in the team to kill bin laden. If they are voting based on the fact that they don't want to pay more taxes and don't care about the middle and poor classes, why don't they just admit that? I actually know a lot of gays who feel exactly this way and I bet it is a more common position than you might think.

    Posted by: dms | Feb 10, 2012 11:26:19 AM


  21. tweedle dumb and, well, tweedle dumber.

    The Gay community should boycott GOProud members, they should be thrown out of gay establishments, denied services from gay businesses and most of all no sex! none.

    Posted by: krispy | Feb 10, 2012 11:44:26 AM


  22. It's all about money... Me first and the hell with LGBT Community. We tell the kids that IT GETS BETTER and then they see GOProud and the Log Cabin Republicans Supporting the Right Wing Nut Job, the very same people that are Bullying them.

    Posted by: Rocky Falco | Feb 10, 2012 11:45:19 AM


  23. jews for hitler. what's the difference between that an goproud? those two clowns would put their wallet ahead of their rights. they shoul remember hitler sent the jews that supported him to the camps too. they must have been abused because they get kicked and go back for more.

    Posted by: walter | Feb 10, 2012 11:51:03 AM


  24. Lift toilet lid. Throw up.

    Posted by: Hollywood, CA | Feb 10, 2012 11:55:21 AM


  25. *Insert Little Kiwi's self-hating gays rhetoric here*

    (because this is the first thread where it actually belongs)

    These guys are a disgrace.

    Posted by: OMNOMNOM | Feb 10, 2012 12:09:22 PM


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