GOProud Founders Discuss Rejection from CPAC, Why They Support Anti-Gay Candidates: VIDEO

The rest of the conversation, which gets cut off, went like this:

BANFIELD:  Here's the thing that gets confusing to some people who might be watching right now.  And that is, I mean, I don't want to be so foolish to say, gee, how can a gay group be conservative since there seems to be competing messages?

But I will tell you this, I got a release from you guys back in January 27 saying after last night's Republican debate one thing is clear, any one of the four remaining GOP presidential candidates would be a dramatic improvement over the failed presidency of Barack Obama.

So any one of the four would include Rick Santorum and wow, I think a lot of gay people who don't belong to your group would be astounded by that comment because here's one of the comments that in 2003, Rick Santorum made about gay people and gay rights, et cetera. And I’ll read directly, "If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual gay sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have to right to adultery, you have the right to anything." I remember when that blew up big for the senator and I think that led to the inability to Google Rick Santorum's name without seeing a lot of really gross stuff.  How do you guys reconcile this?  How do you say he's better than Barack Obama when he says this specifically about you?

BARRON:  Well, let's be clear.  First off, we strongly disagree with what Rick Santorum said there.  Those comments are absolutely outrageous.  Secondly, Rick Santorum is not going to be the nominee of this party. I know that the mainstream media and some in the party want to continue the charade that there is a horse race going on here.  Rick Santorum is not even on the ballot.

BANFIELD:  He's won three states.  He swept them with huge numbers.

BARRON:  John McCain lost 19 states, 17 of those after he won in South Carolina and Florida and his nomination was never in question. The bottom line is the only candidate who has a national organization that can win this primary is Mitt Romney.  I mean, we can continue to pretend that there's a horse race and I know that the media wants to pretend like there's a horse race.

BANFIELD:  Let me give you that.  Let me give you that one, guys.  That's Rick Santorum.  Now the other candidates as well that you're supporting also support the idea that gays shouldn't serve in the military. And they also support the idea that there should be a constitutional amendment to prevent gay marriage in this country.  That doesn't seem like it's in sync with what you would want in your candidate?

LASALVIA:  That's not exactly true.  Ron Paul doesn't support the constitutional amendment and even Mitt Romney went so far so say it's not likely.  That particular proposal has lost support ever since it first failed in Congress in 2004. The reality is, we're all living in this Obama economy.  Gay people are living in the Obama economy, too.  And we've got to come together.  Gay and straight, liberal and conservative, and fire the president. That's what we have to do as is a country.  We have to look at who is best positioned and best able to do that.  And to fix the problems that everyone, including gay people care about, those kitchen table issues that everyone is worried about right now.

 BARRON:  And the left would have you believe that the only thing that gay people care about is military service and marriage.  And while those are important issues, the fact is, is that gay people care about things like the economy and jobs and retirement security.

BANFIELD:  I appreciate it.  Jimmy LaSalvia and Chris Barron, I could go on for a whole lot longer and I do appreciate you guys coming to talk to us today.

Comments

  1. Rick says

    I would try to feel sorry for them if they weren’t so stupid. You don’t have to align yourself with Republicans (who want you dead) to advance whatever your “conservative” values are. But that is exactly what they do and the *only* message they are capable of portraying in this manner is that they are mental and emotional wrecks. They’ve no one to blame but their own ignorant selves.

  2. BUTCH JEROME says

    Mr. Salvia and Mr. Barron, regardless of being GAY, are just as two-faced, irrational power/attention grabbers as the rest of the GOP. I am definitely not PROUD to be “their kind of Gay.”

    Banfield hit ‘it’ on the head about Rick Santorum’s condemnation of Gays, but “the boys” still think HE would be better than Obama ?

    WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE ???

  3. JD says

    So, what I take away from this is that they’re single-issue voters who are wealthy enough to not need to worry about GLBT equality, and would rather campaign to make themselves as wealthy as possible.

    Which means that they’ve said nothing new. It’s really not that hard to see how greedy jerks could work against us in order to pursue their own narrow self-interest.

  4. excy says

    Words fail. LaSalvia and Barron represent an organization that does not care one bit about equality for GLBT persons. Santorum would be better than Obama….really?

    They care about two things…their pocketbook and their protected position in society. Do not be mistaken..they represent the gay 1%…or folks that aspire to be one percenters. They have no compassion or time for anything that money or influence cannot purchase.

    They make me sick.

  5. ggreen says

    Roy Cohn and Clyde Tolson should be discussing bad comb-overs, spray tanning and constipation. Which from the looks of those two they are both experts in. Was the idiot on the left sending Morse code with the constant blinking? Here’s the thing girls the conservatives hate you, they really, really hate you. PS most of the gays do too. Get the message.

  6. Bill says

    These confused robots always say the same thing “it’s the economy, it’s the economy!” You know what – some of us don’t want to live in an “economy” that is intent on taking our rights and denying us the exact same privileges that every other tax paying American citizen enjoys solely because of their “accepted” sexual persuasion.

  7. stevenelliot says

    Lookin at these two yahoos reminds me of the boys who used to sit around and sip their g&t’s at the Pharr Laibrary in Atlanta in 1985. This type has the preppy handbook stuck so far up their backside they can read it with their stomach. Its a an outdated culture. One that I remember well. Its a Southern and maybe an East Coast phenom of 40 and 50 something boyz who grew up under reagan. Poor things. Dad jeans and yachts and plaid pants and preffering to sit at the back of the bus, just so you can keep your nostalgia? pathetic

  8. sparks says

    They said in their press release that ANY of the four remaining candidates would be an improvement over Barack Obama, but when questioned directly about the hateful statements of one of those four candidates, Barron essentially says Oh, well that one won’t be the nominee.

    That didn’t answer the quest, Chris! If you’re going to dismiss those who hate gays as you did Santorum, you’ll need to dismiss all four of those remaining candidates. And THEN whatcha got?

  9. Gregv says

    Ashley let them get away with deflecting the question. She had specifically asked why they support Santorum over Obama so “he’s not likely to win isn’t an answer. And Mitt Romney isn’t “likely” to succeed in changing the constitution, well, that deflected the question again.

    What if a black man said he supports the Klan’s Grand Dragon for President and when asked why, he said that his reasons are not important because he isn’t likely to win and yes, all of his favorite guys want to change the Constitution to make blacks non-persons but that initiative “isn’t likely” to succeed.
    People would recognize that he is crazy. ANY kind of economic initiative mean nothing to these two guys if they were locked in jail as Santorum would have it.
    And all that is beside the more minor point that they’re also delusional if they can’t look at the numbers and see that for all the Republican talk about fiscal responsibility and booming economy, it’s been nothing but empty rhetoric for 35 years.
    Canada did not follow Dubya’s lead of deregulating the financial system and a thousand other dumb moves, and has been relatively unscathed by the overwhelming financial crisis that was handed to Obama to try to clean up when he took office.

  10. says

    “BARRON: And the left would have you believe that the only thing that gay people care about is military service and marriage. And while those are important issues, the fact is, is that gay people care about things like the economy and jobs and retirement security.”

    Actually, Chris, gay people–including your version of “the left” (anyone less right-wing than you)–do indeed care about things like the economy and jobs and retirement security, and unless you’re a zillionaire, the Republicans suck on those things, too, as was evidenced by the last Republican administration, when the economy first tanked. Why would making the interests of zillionaires your first priority resonate with most non-zillionaire gay people? The mind boggles. (And, BTW, DOMA hits gay people directly in their wallets, among other places.)

  11. NY2.0 says

    Lol, what in the world makes Jimmy LaSalvia and Chris Barron think they represent gay people? They represent their bank accounts and don’t give a damn about gay rights. These two will sell their souls to the devil for a tax cut, sick.

    “the Obama economy” is a lot better than the mess Bush and the GOP left us with!

  12. dms says

    Actually, I will give them the point that gays (at least this one) care more about the economy than gay marriage (I’m in an 11 year relationship) and serving in the military is not really applicable to me personally (yeah, I’m too old!) Now don’t get me wrong, I am in favor of these things, 100%, but my biggest concern is the economy. On that front, I don’t get their assessment that Obama is a total failure. The Bush policies are what drove this country off a financial cliff and things are slowly getting better. I, like may, are somewhat disappointed that Obama is the chief compromiser more than the bold leader we had hoped for, but his approach may be wiser in the long run and let’s face it, he showed real cajones by sending in the team to kill bin laden. If they are voting based on the fact that they don’t want to pay more taxes and don’t care about the middle and poor classes, why don’t they just admit that? I actually know a lot of gays who feel exactly this way and I bet it is a more common position than you might think.

  13. krispy says

    tweedle dumb and, well, tweedle dumber.

    The Gay community should boycott GOProud members, they should be thrown out of gay establishments, denied services from gay businesses and most of all no sex! none.

  14. Rocky Falco says

    It’s all about money… Me first and the hell with LGBT Community. We tell the kids that IT GETS BETTER and then they see GOProud and the Log Cabin Republicans Supporting the Right Wing Nut Job, the very same people that are Bullying them.

  15. walter says

    jews for hitler. what’s the difference between that an goproud? those two clowns would put their wallet ahead of their rights. they shoul remember hitler sent the jews that supported him to the camps too. they must have been abused because they get kicked and go back for more.

  16. TJ says

    What ERNIE wrote. +1

    And the rest of these comments are spot-on, too. I’m waiting for the defenders to come forward…

    No, not really. They’re pretty much indefensible. So spare us.

  17. says

    it’s just TEXTBOOK – these two sad reluctant homosexuals are so desperate for the approval of the prejudiced people who they’ve been brought up with that they don’t realize how OBVIOUS their reactionary insecure stances are.

    http://youtu.be/hrv31BCGeqY

    video one.

    http://youtu.be/2R6jqMysHaA

    video two.

    GOProud, summed up.

    The intellectual dishonesty is simply this – to suggest that the only thing the Dems have, that the Repubs don’t, is a “gay marriage” thing is UTTER NONSENSE.

    It has nothing to do with gay marriage, in fact, and everything to do with the sheer simple reality that the GOP condones, promotes and indeed CREATES galling anti-gay myths and prejudices and uses them to influence the plebeian masses of their base – all of whom have no idea what “foreign policy” means or what “fiscal plans” are. truly.

    the GOP base? no idea whatsoever about anything to do with Jobs or taxes. but they sure do know they hates them some gays!

    GOProud: white moneyed homosexual males born into racist families, and anti-gay families – these boys have to “hate liberal gay leftist stereotypes”, vocally, in order to remind and convince their chosen GOP buddies that they’re worthy of tolerance.

    not love. not acceptance. not understanding.

    Barron is married. He was happy to reap the rewards of the work done by Gay Leftists and Democrats. Then he gives his usual crap.

    Why? *drumroll please*
    Another white homosexual Christian who has to hate “gay stereotypes” in order to apologize to his daddy for being gay.

    hate me all you like – you know i’m right about this.

  18. says

    in short:

    “Why does GOProud exist?”

    -“well, Ashleigh, you see we were born into Republican voting families that dont’ like gays or blacks, and there’s an unfortunate downfall to being gay in that any and every leap made by the gay communities has been done by liberal progressives. So you see, that poses a problem for us gays born into Conservative homes, because we’re raised to Hate liberals and hate gays, even though we’re gay, and liberals are the only people who’ve ever politically done anything for gay people. So, we started GOProud as a way for us white moneyed gay boys to get together – this way we can stand strong and show our families that we can be gay and not demand Equality. We can be gay, and still racist, and still anti-gay, and suck up to every baseless and bigoted whim that our party promotes. We have to hate liberal gays because if we don’t our parents won’t let us sit at the Big Kid’s table for dinner.

    Just like how GOP women are the most anti-woman women in the country”

  19. says

    p.s. the left cares about ENDA.

    Jobs. Housing. GOProud? no need for ENDA – they’re rich white boys who cut off their balls so as not to “threaten” the white anti-gay bigots with whom they choose to associate.

    this is also why they harbor their barely-veiled racist sentiments: the easiest way for a cowardly gay man to suck up to Republicans is to insult the black and latino communities. which these wimps do every bloody day.

    http://youtu.be/2R6jqMysHaA

    curious: this guy in the video…he hates “gay stereotypes”… Mary, PLEASE!

    if this guy doesn’t consider himself a stereotypical queen then what in the name of God is his basis for comparison? LOL!

  20. Javier says

    Their has to be a psychological term for people that really love others who hate them. GOProud loves the conservative CPAC movement that hates them, but I guess my question is why? How do you reconcile the 2 opposing forces? I just don’t get it… Am I missing something?

  21. Bart says

    They haven’t formed a boycott — uhm, fellas, how can you boycott an event where you aren’t invited?????? And besides, you two not going to CPAC really won’t devestate them. Quite honestly if you had any sense you would have said you were boycotting them BEFORE they told you not to show up.

    And second, all those things you think Republicans “care” about other than stamping out the rights and liberties of ALL Americans, you know, jobs, the economy…are exactly WHY I’m voting for Obama again and not someone who will only look out for the 1%.

    Go back 8 years boys and look at the surplus we had…before the Republican president left us with a 10 trillion dollar deficit as well as in a recession. We’ve climbed out…thank you, Mr. President. And it could have been a lot worse. Republicans only worry about THEIR money, THEIR profit. Sorry, I actually believe America is for everyone, socially and economically.

    And lastly, you two selfish, stupid, squirrelly looking mofos should have someone cut your hair, you look like those creepy boys at a prep school that wait around the bathroom, hoping someone will give them a nod so you can go in and blow them.

  22. says

    we don’t want them at CPAC. the last time they were there their “presence” was nothing more than wimpy white boys complaining about “those liberal gays” and then saying “we think issues like marriage should be up to the States”. followed by admissions that they do not work on a State-level whatsoever.

    it’s a “don’t hate us, we hate liberal gays, too!” club.

    p a t h e t i c

    http://littlekiwilovesbauhaus.blogspot.com/2011/07/goproud-my-ass.html

  23. FunMe says

    “1960s … blacks discuss rejection from KKK annual convention, why they support KKK candidates.”

    Those guys IDIOTS! They sound like they are into S&M and love all the pain people who hate give them. Unbelievable! But no surprising especially given things that WIERD JAW guy has been saying. Did he not get love from his family?

  24. Zlick says

    Ok, now that Mitt Romney, the only candidate who can win the nomination according to them, has told CPAC he will personally, as president, seek a Constitutional Amendment banning marriage equality, will CNN invite these ‘tards back on for the obvious follow-up?

  25. Redebbm says

    It’s all about money. The only reason they show their gay identity is to try and make some point that gay men have been “mislead” to the Democratic party, I myself am an independent. They are those typical people who have to hate things for the fact that other people do it despite how much it doesn’t make sense. It’s either that or it’s purely money. Which is stupid because economies thrive under progressive policies. They should take their smug conservative faces back to Econ 101. I don’t want to be harsh but it frustrates me they these individuals continue to thrive on carving out a political divide in our community when we should focus on our equality for all and for others which is why our community embraced progressive view in the first place. Can’t say that about the GOP which continues to embrace the view that we are anti-family and will continue to run right with the likes of Santorum and Romney.

  26. billmiller says

    Jimmy talks out of the side of his mouth, I just can’t trust him. Don’t ask me why….syke! The so-called christ-like conservatives ARE unified. They are unified against any one or any thing that is not like them or does not espouse their
    ‘values.’
    And speaking of charades, what is goproud?

  27. Acronym Jim says

    The thing is, if GOProud’s continued riding on the coat-tails of the Republican party relies of the benefits their so-called conservative ideals, they’re barking up the wrong tree.

    DADT: The repeal allowed increased membership in the U.S. military. Score for conservative militarism, yet most Republicans fought it tooth and nail.

    Marriage Equality: Granting equal marriage rights would also mean equal taxing on same-sex marriage, ergo tax equality. It also allows for cottage industries catering specifically to same sex marriages. It’s a plus for catering, wedding planning, CAKES, vacation deals, greeting cards and many others. Score for pro-business capitalism, yet nearly all Republicans reject the very idea of marriage equality.

    ENDA would be a boon to the economy by providing an increased diversity of jobs throughout the workplace. Score again for capitalism. Insert hearty round of derision from the Republicans here.

    In short, today’s Republican’s in general don’t support their own conservative ideals. All they’re left with is pandering to the “religious” right and racists.

  28. michael says

    You guys are seriously pretty pathetic. Gay marriage is not equality. You do realize that some of us are Christians (not that all Christians believe gay marriage is wrong) and have objections to gay marriage, even if we are gay. It’s not being a biggot to not agree with gay marriage, its called having your own mind. Something the Obama administration seriously doesnt like. I used to be a democrat (hardcore liberal kind) until I grew up and saw what Obama was doing to my country. I love this country, scars and all, and I cant stand it when people (like Obama) denegrate and apologize for it. Im 16 now and I’ve got more common sense than all you. It’s time you grow up. The GOP isnt trying to stop us from being in the army, they just don’t want us talking about it. They’re right! We shouldn’t be discussing our sexual orientation in the army. GOProud is an amazing organization which has helped smash the stereotype that all gays are girly liberal hippies who want the govt to step in and protect them. Some of us still have some nads.

  29. says

    hey “Michael” – PROVE you have “nads”.

    surely you’re a brave young conservative who knows how to make a youtube video. after all, you “have nads” and clearly nothing to hide.

    so let’s see 😉

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