Morrissey and His Band ‘Hate William and Kate’

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Morrissey and his bandmates staged a sartorial protest of Britain's continued ownership of the Falkland Islands at a concert in Argentina, according to the Hollywood Reporter:

"The [British] government, the governments, never listen to the people, to their pain," he told the audience, blaming the government, not the people, for the political difficulty.

Morrissey initially commented on the dispute, which has been enflamed by Prince William's Royal Air Force assignment to the islands, on Friday, when he told another audience in Argentina that “You know of course the Malvinas Islands, everybody knows they belong to Argentina so please do not blame the British people, we know the islands belong to you." The Malvinas Islands are the Spanish name for the Falklands.

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  1. Jim says

    Sorry, but Argentina only held the Falklands for a short period (1820 to 1834), you can read up on the history on Wikipedia. The original settlements were French and British. They have been part of the UK since 1833. All the residents wish to continue to be part of the UK so what “people” is Morrissey referring to? The “Malvinas” issue is something created by Argentine governments every few years to divert their citizens from domestic problems.

  2. Henry Holland says

    Moz, Moz, Moz *exasperated sigh*

    Most of the people that actually live on those FSM-forsaken bits of rock consider themselves British, loyal to the Crown, they have since the mid-19th century.

    They’re no more Argentinian than the people who live in Gibraltar are Spanish.

  3. DanSwon says

    i love The Smith but Morrissey is a fool. i also couldn’t care less about the Royal Family. all a bunch of pompous overblown berks with too much time and money on their hands, both moz and the royals

  4. SeanR says

    Has anyone listened to his “music”, utter shite! Would make the most optimistic person feel like Voldemort.

    Morrisey doesn’t seem to respect the will of the population of the Falklands who want to remain British, so what does that say about supporting human rights? He and his band are just being muppets on the Falklands issue but wearing we hate William & Kate t-shirts is utterly offensive.

  5. Josh says

    Get your History right people!! They don’t allow Argentinians to live in the Malvinas! They belong to Argentina! It’s absolutely
    ludicrous to think that the UK would own the islands! How far are the Islands from the UK? How close are the Malvinas from Argentina? Morrisey is right! Allow Argentinians to move back to the Malvinas and you would be surprise how many “ARGENTINIANS” would be willing to move there. The only reason the current population wants to stay british is “money”. Malvinas are from Argentina!

  6. Matt says

    In my opinion, Morrissey tends to make political statements that are correct, but sometimes presented in an insensitive manner. I think that part of his appeal for me is that he doesn’t seem to care what other people think of him. I could never live that way–but I can vicariously, through Moz.

  7. Swiminbuff says

    What tools !!! They along with Sean Penn obviously dont believe in the right of self determination of the residents of The Falkland Islands. That is a generally accepted principal of democracy, but whatever.
    As for Argentinians moving back there, well the last Argentinians to live there were the invaders of 30 years ago and they didnt chose to go in the first place. Beyond that the ialands have been British for about 180 years.Get over it. Presidnet Kirchner is
    just using The falklands as a distraction from her domestic economic issues.

  8. Joey Y says

    What do Prince William and Kate have to do with anything? They don’t control anything and neither, technically, does the family. That’s like me whining about America’s military in the Middle East and blaming it on Mitt Romney’s kids. Morrisey has just become stupid at this point.

  9. joe says

    Why not let the people vote on the Falklands and decide for themselves? Oh, wait, there’s a 0% chance the people there would want any part of the Argentine government. President Kirchner just stirs up trouble to divert the attention away from her economic mess. How’s that 25% annual inflation treating you, Argentina?

  10. Chris AE says

    @Josh
    Huh, there’s quite a distance to Argentina. Why should Argentinian settlers have a right to live there?

    I doubt that the real issue is the economy, but the resource claims of Argentina and the UK.

  11. Jim says

    @Chris
    Right, today the issue driving the Argentine government is that there may be oil around the Falklands. The issue at the time of the invasion 30 years ago was to divert people from the military dictatorship.

  12. says

    Anyone who claims “everybody knows” anything is automatically a fool. And in this case doubly so as a huge percentage of people disagree with him. My reading of history is that Argentina has no legitimate claim whatsoever. The islands were not “discovered” by Argentina for sure. And really what matters is the first settlements there. Those were French and British. If France and England want to fight it out fine, but Argentina has no legitimate claims.

  13. says

    The islands are 400 miles from Argentina. Plenty of Chileans live there. This isn’t about racism, imperialism, or anything like that. This is about the hostile takeover of a British settlement.

  14. Patric says

    I’m with you, Josh. While these issues are tricky (consider the history of the U.S. and Native Americans), I don’t think their resolution should necessarily be as simple as saying that, just because the descendants of settlers from an imperialist power wish to remain under the control of that imperialist power, they should get their way. I don’t buy that argument in the case of Northern Ireland and I don’t buy it here, especially given the history of denying Argentine migration to the islands.

    Also, though no doubt the issue has been used by Argentine governments to divert attention from domestic problems and though Pres. Kirchner’s commitment to marriage equality may have been motivated by political considerations as much as any other principle, I still find the challenges to her integrity on this site a bit offputting, given the historic significance of Argentina’s becoming the first Latin American country with nationwide marriage equality.

  15. Henry Holland says

    “They don’t allow Argentinians to live in the Malvinas!”

    That’s a lie, there’s a very tiny Argentinian population on the Faklands.

    “How far are the Islands from the UK?”

    You know who the ruler of Guam is? Barack Obama, because Guam is an unincorporated territory of the US. It’s 7,926 miles away from the White House per Google maps, so what’s your point?

    “Allow Argentinians to move back to the Malvinas”

    As Jim pointed out, they left en masse in 1834! So now they get to say “Woops! Our bad, we want it all back, forget the last 178 years!”?

    “I still find the challenges to her integrity on this site a bit offputting”

    There’s more important things in this world than gay marriage.

  16. mike says

    Morrissey is just a dumb ass wanna be rock star who knows s**t about history and politics, he is simply trying to sell records in Argentine. What a loser!!

  17. Josh says

    Get it right! Argentinians are not allowed to live in the islands by UK rules. The whole argument that the population of the island wants to stay with the UK is BS. They don’t even allowed any Argentinian Airlines to land in the islands. Why? Denying Argentine migration to the islands is wrond and the UK should stay out of the Malvinas! (M A L V I N A S sounds MUCH better because that’s the name that ARGENTINA gave to the islands) How would you feel if Argentina decides that Alaska belongs to them just because they have few Argentinians there first? That’s a silly argument. The UK is in Europe and they are so faraway from the Malvinas…Tierra Del Fuego is only few hours from Malvinas! They belong to ARGENTINA!

  18. bro-mosexual says

    glad that someone else hates the royal fam. it’s pretty retarded that everyone fawns over them, given that their only “accomplishment” was being born

  19. jack says

    To BRO-MOSEXUAL: You should drop the word “retarded” from your vocabulary. It is hurtful to special neeeds people and those who love them.

  20. PaulR says

    “just because the descendants of settlers from an imperialist power wish to remain under the control of that imperialist power, they should get their way”

    So Argentina is going to hand back their country to the Indians from whom they stole it? Thought, not. Might be a bit hard, in any case, as the Spanish murdered most of them during the colonialist era.

  21. Artie says

    “Moz” is just a stupid queen and should STFU.

    Argentina needs to get over this and STFU.

    Everyone who actually lives on the Falklands wants it to remain part of the UK. Argentina’s economy sucks, and this is just something to divert attention away from that.

  22. ratbastard says

    This is all about rich, natural resources and Argentine authorities using this ‘dispute’ with a foreign power to distract attention away from domestic issues and rally nationalism.

    The Falklands are British. They were never owned by Spain or Argentina. There’s an island right off the coast of Eastern Canada, north of New England, that’s a French territory. Do you see the Canadians demanding the islands be ‘returned’ to Canada?

    Wouldn’t Argentina be better off negotiating and acting like good neighbors than making unilateral demands? After-all, Argentina was also stolen from the native Indians [Americans] by the Spanish.

  23. Henry Holland says

    “Argentinians are not allowed to live in the islands by UK rules”

    Again with that nonsense, that’s a lie. There aren’t very many Argentinians there, but they aren’t banned.

    “The whole argument that the population of the island wants to stay with the UK is BS”

    Another lie. The overwhelming majority favor British crown rule, to assert otherwise is a lie. Why do you hate democracy?

    “They belong to ARGENTINA!”

    Yet another lie, they haven’t belonged to the Argentinians since 1834, WHEN THEY LEFT.

    “So Argentina is going to hand back their country to the Indians from whom they stole it? Thought not. Might be a bit hard, in any case, as the Spanish murdered most of them during the colonialist era”

    I was thinking the same thing last night, but you put it brilliantly.

  24. Steve says

    The Malvinas don’t really belong to Argentine.

    But they are located in South America so they CERTAINLY don’t belong to Britain – the population there may identify as British, and they should certainly be allowed to live there freely, but it’s beyond ridiculous to pretend those islands are British.

    As for William and Kate Windsor – I don’t hate them. But I’m firmly anti-monarchy.

    When Elizabeth Windsor dies I would like Britain to become a democracy where the population can vote for its head of state.

  25. Henry Holland says

    “But they are located in South America”

    No they aren’t, they are in international waters.

    “it’s beyond ridiculous to pretend those islands are British”

    Yeah, apart from that whole “part of the British crown” thing and the “We’re not bloody Argies, we’re Brits” thing and….

    Funny how people like you and Josh seem to gloss over Guam, which is in almost the same situation as the Falklands. Hawai’i is 2,500 miles from Los Angeles, the US should renounce ownership of them so that the natives can control them again, because hey, they’re not 30 feet off the coast of San Diego.

    “When Elizabeth Windsor dies I would like Britain to become a democracy where the population can vote for its head of state”

    [buries head in hands] They already DO vote for the head of state when they vote for Prime Minister. The monarch has nothing to do with the day to day running of government, as the Sex Pistols screamed “And our FIGUREHEAD is not what she seems”. She’s a figurehead, just like *gasp* in a bunch of other European countries. Hunky Prince Frederik of Denmark isn’t working in a car parts factory, you know.

    Plus you’re dreaming, only about 1/3 of the queen’s subject want to get rid of the monarchy. The public pays the equivalent of about $60 million for their upkeep but the country makes that back many times over in tourism to royal sites.

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