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  1. says

    Oh, I feel sorry for her! I’ve certainly mangled my words by not being able to pull the correct word out of my mess of a brain. In this case, using the word “consent” instead of “choice” would have made her intentions clear, I think.

  2. Tim NC says

    Here’s a thought Ashley…. When you schedule a far-right anti-gay partisan for an on-air discussion, don’t try to handle it yourself. Try a “fair and balanced” approach and have a professional gay advocate on-air at the same time to provide the counter argument. Then you won’t have to worry about getting the terminology all confused.

    Even your explanation isn’t all that good. The pastor would just agree with you that being in a gay relationship is a “choice” and since the Bible says gay relationships are a sin, then gays should just “choose” not to be in gay relationships the same way that society expects pedophiles to “choose” not to act on their desires.

  3. Tim NC says

    Here’s a thought Ashley…. When you schedule a far-right anti-gay partisan for an on-air discussion, don’t try to handle it yourself. Try a “fair and balanced” approach and have a professional gay advocate on-air at the same time to provide the counter argument. Then you won’t have to worry about getting the terminology all confused.

    Even your explanation isn’t all that good. The pastor would just agree with you that being in a gay relationship is a “choice” and since the Bible says gay relationships are a sin, then gays should just “choose” not to be in gay relationships the same way that society expects pedophiles to “choose” not to act on their desires.

  4. Tim NC says

    It would have been far better for her to have made this explanation yesterday to the same audience that she made the original statement to. It’s likely a completely different audience hearing this explanation today.

  5. Eric says

    She really needs a good writer—even this clarification is a jumbled mess. Small point, but I don’t know of any state in the US, or in the world, where _all_ forms of incest are illegal— most states in the US, if they address it at all, only address incest as it relates to possible genetic problems arising from breeding between close relatives.

  6. says

    Yes, she has explained her meaning clearly and anyone can mangle their words from time to time. Who doesn’t ?

    I just hate the discussion of paedophilia and homosexuality in the same room at the same time.
    There is absolutely no connection whatever between the two and they should not arise within the same debate.

  7. Alex Parrish says

    Apology accepted. Move on. Stop the snarky remarks and stop the hate; she’s on our side. Everybody makes mistakes and she was strong enough to admit it and try to correct it. Get over it, haters!

  8. Brad says

    Just accept the apology already.

    It’s a hell of a lot better than the scripted emotionless crap GLAAD usually writes for people.

    I’d much rather accept an apology that is off-the-cuff than one that has prewritten talking points. It makes it sincere instead of just a PR move.

  9. Danny in the East Village says

    All right, you self-righteous bit**es who have never made a mistake or misspoken: cut the gal some slack: she misspoke and then did the right thing by trying to remedy it. Now back off.

  10. Old Skooler says

    You don’t choose to be gay but you’re incorrect in stating that acting on those gay feelings isn’t a personal choice you make. No one has died from not acting on their gay feelings. The reasons for not acting on those feelings should be personal and not coerced. But, to try and say that you don’t choose to bump unglies isn’t a logical arguement. Just because you’re gay doesn’t mean anything other than you act a bit different in the bedroom when time and opportunity permit. That’s it. Unless you live with your mom in the same room I don’t see who’s stopping you from doing what you want.

  11. Mic says

    Excuuuse me GOPROUD TROLLS…

    But what part of “I PROBABLY misspoke and mangled words…”

    …DIDN’T you understand?

    PROBABLY…

    MEANING “MAYBE”

    Meaning LACKNG ALL SINCERITY AND TRUTH IN HER APOLOGY.

    You republican turds sure can spin anti-gay animus.

    As the KIWI would imply…Just another attempt to white wash gay hate for your Daddies who hate you for being gay.

    SORRY, ASHLEY…apology NOT accepted…TRY AGAIN.

  12. Mic says

    “…No one has died from not acting on their gay feelings…”

    Dear POS: The day you account for all those teens who committed suicide or being gay BEFORE they ‘acted’ on their feelings…

    …is the day we’ll award you a little tin Psychiatry Badge from a fruitlopp box.

    In the meantime shut the ”F” up and sit down.

    Cause you are 100% WRONG.

    SAAVY?

  13. MrRoboto says

    I accept her apology and understand she mangled her words. But in explaining the mangling of her words, she really seemed to mangle them again. Just drop the word “choice” from the discussion completely. Those in a “voluntary straight relationship” are making the same kind of “choice” that she ascribes to gay relationships.

    Now, moving along…

  14. Hex says

    She was talking about how pedophiles are born vs how gays are born. Her explanation is an attempt to pretend she was talking about people’s actions rather that talking about the qualities of the people. Words mean things, and the way she said it was clear. Pedophilia and incest are innate, being gay is a choice is what she said basically.

  15. Hex says

    Oh, and if people inclined to engage in pedophilia or incest should be where the cultural warriors should be focusing their efforts. People who have no choice but to enter into a child rape relationship need to be our first priority to deal with, not gays.

    So whether she was contrasting how people are born or contrasting their behaviors, she was defending people who engage in pedophilia and incest.

  16. Randy says

    Actually, incest (when it isn’t pedophilia) is more of a choice than homosexuality is.

    As who cares if homosexuality is a crime? It wasn’t wrong when it was a crime. The law was wrong.

    She’s in a hole. She should stop digging.

  17. NullNaught says

    @Mic
    I can tell without you mentioning that you are a fan of kiwi. You have imitated his style splendidly. You start with an ad hominem. You use caps lock to yell at people. You view everything with an eye to saying hateful/disrepsectful things. Your interpretation of this is extreme. It relys on you taking the worst possible interpretation of her motives. You don’t question her actions, you attack her motives as if you had a god’s eye view inside her head. You return to invective several times, you tell gay people to shut the F*ck up – why would you personally attack someone you thought was gay if you were gay yourself? Haven’t we all received enough abuse from straight people to satisfy you, you have to spread your misery? You don’t produce any arguments yourself, you just question motives and insult. You attack gay people as if you were a straight troll.
    Oh, and you really get through to people talking to them the way that you do. And you impress fence-sitters with your ability to call your opponents names, yell at them, order them about, and generally disrespect anyone who disagrees with you all at the same time. People like to see you behaving this way.

  18. says

    I only know about her show from the scathing take-downs on the Daily Show. If Jon Stewart provides any indication, she puts her foot in her mouth almost constantly.

    From the context of her original words, it was pretty clear that she was thinking about “consent” when she said “choice”, which are related but very different words. If you swap choice and lifestyle choice for consent and consenting adults then not only are her words inoffensive but they’re pretty dead on.

  19. Mike says

    I totally get what she was trying to say. What she should have said is that gay relationships are consentual unlike pedophelia or incest where one of the parties is not consenting and is therefore a victim. As far as Im concerned this is not an issue.

  20. Icebloo says

    She is a liar. The words “voluntary lifestyle choice” don’t just slip out of your mouth by mistake. A sentence like that takes some thought. She KNEW what she said but now she doesn’t have the guts to face the backlash.

    She is another snake who is not to be trusted.

    Don’t we have enough hateful, dishonest TV “news” people without CNN introducing more ?

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