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Democracy Dead, Declares Wisconsin Voter: VIDEO

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More emotional testimony over last night's Walker win.

Watch, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. That's a little odd. Democracy is dead? I thought the people voted yesterday and chose to keep Scott Walker in office. Did I miss something?

    Posted by: joe | Jun 6, 2012 9:16:40 AM


  2. The ability of billionaires to get average people to vote against their own interests is amazing.

    Posted by: Ken | Jun 6, 2012 9:18:56 AM


  3. There is already some evidence of voter fraud from what I saw on the news last night.

    Between that and the manipulation of the vote by the Grand Old Billionaires club I would have to agree that Democracy as we once knew it is now dead.

    Posted by: Ben Ragunton | Jun 6, 2012 9:24:41 AM


  4. Poor Baby. Joe Taxpayer isn't paying for Baby's pension plan anymore. He might have to contribute to it himself ?! Democracy is dead!

    Posted by: MarkUs | Jun 6, 2012 9:24:57 AM


  5. @Joe: yeah, apparently you did miss something... like maybe the fact that there was an 8.5 to 1 spending ratio and most of Walker's money came from a handful of people who own him. When this happens, voting becomes meaningless.

    Posted by: RyanInSacto | Jun 6, 2012 9:26:19 AM


  6. @ryaninsacto - I see, so you're saying that the people who went to the polls didn't actually vote?

    The people who did cast votes were casting meaningless votes?

    The 60% turnout was false? Help me understand your logic.

    Posted by: joe | Jun 6, 2012 9:30:35 AM


  7. I saw union enrollment has dropped 65 percent and over 35 percent of self-identified union households voted for Walker. These numbers were from Rachel Maddow's show, who glossed right over them as if they meant nothing and then began harping on Karl Rove.

    Last night the M in MSNBC stood for Mad-cap comedy.

    Posted by: MarkUs | Jun 6, 2012 9:36:12 AM


  8. The SCOTUS ruling in Citizens United muddied the playing field. It turned the USA officially into a Plutocracy.

    Posted by: Jim | Jun 6, 2012 9:37:45 AM


  9. Gov. Walker has now been elected twice in two years. Time to get over it and find a way to move on and forward.

    It is amazing how when people disagree with the outcome of the vote they claim the voters were bought or imply that they are too stupid to think for themselves. That is really insulting!

    Also..the margin of victory indicates that some "Union" households voted for Walker.

    The rules regarding the money are the same for both sides and worked in President Obama's favor in 2008. I don't like all the money involved here but there are plenty of fat cat democrats who aren't donating to the super pacs....I wonder why?

    Posted by: Chris | Jun 6, 2012 9:38:06 AM


  10. @Markus was home schooled, built all the streets he walks on, and is the person who shows up when you call 911. Let's all rejoice that he exists

    Posted by: mybutt | Jun 6, 2012 9:38:28 AM


  11. @ JOE:

    Yes, Joe, you missed the Citizens United case which allows big corporations to buy elections.......
    Remember Romney says; "Corporations are people too "; so I guess there's no surprise that corporations want to buy what money can buy.

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Jun 6, 2012 9:49:21 AM


  12. @ Joe, and @ Chris... it's obvious which side of the political fence you're on. You're QUISLINGS! Traitors that serve as PUPPETS of the enemy. IDIOTS!

    Posted by: Jeff R. | Jun 6, 2012 9:52:49 AM


  13. Just like we saw in the Prop 8 vote, the "will of the people" can only exist among equally informed people. If millions (or billions) are spent on lies and distortions, it's always the will of someone else who comes out victorious.

    Posted by: kpo5 | Jun 6, 2012 9:56:32 AM


  14. Wisconsin union supporters, you failed. It was not a secret that Walker had high powered sponsors and still you hoped that 'people power' would save the day. It did not.

    Gay rights activists, Obama supporters -- learn a lesson from this. The weapons for manipulating and coercing an electorate are far more powerful than they were ten years ago.

    If you want your rights and freedoms protected, you're going to have to do more than recite chants in the town hall.

    Posted by: Gregoire | Jun 6, 2012 9:57:57 AM


  15. Politics aside, let's be realistic for a moment: America CANNOT afford pensions and entitlements as much as we'd like to. We're in SO much debt, it's truly scary.

    Maybe it sucks for unions, but this spending CANNOT go on forever. It's simple math.

    Posted by: Andrew | Jun 6, 2012 10:00:07 AM


  16. It's a shame democracy died after Obama did all he could. I mean sending a "supportive Tweet" and all.

    Posted by: MarkUs | Jun 6, 2012 10:01:10 AM


  17. Actually, it just means voters preferred Scott Walker over the Democrat alternative.

    Posted by: Alan | Jun 6, 2012 10:02:18 AM


  18. It is now being reported that the Koch Brothers alone gave Walker TWICE what Barrett collected in his entire campaign. No candidate or society for that matter, can survive such an onslaught.

    Posted by: parnell | Jun 6, 2012 10:07:24 AM


  19. Just because you disagree with the outcome of a vote does not make that vote undemocratic. Was there a lot of outside money involved? Yes. But would those decrying that fact object to outside progressives and labor groups contributing? Just because you don't like the source of the conservative's outside money doesn't make it any worse than your outside progressive money. In the end, all that matters are the votes and while I may not like the outcome of the election the people of Wisconsin voted to keep their Governor.

    Posted by: Sam | Jun 6, 2012 10:08:44 AM


  20. An interesting tidbit is that FDR was vehemently opposed to unions in the public sector. The theory behind unionization is that there is an asymmetry of power between the one employer and his hundreds, or even thousands of workers, and the employer has an incentive to give them the worst deal possible because it's easy to replace one worker. Replacing ALL the workers however, would be costly, so unionization gives workers more power.

    The issue is that the government doesn't have that same incentive to cut costs. The politicians don't directly benefit from making the workers work for less, so when you allow public sector workers unionize, what you quite often get is people who have ties to the union sitting on both sides of the negotiating table.

    Posted by: Matt | Jun 6, 2012 10:19:58 AM


  21. Recall elections should only be allowed for malfeasance or criminal activity in the course of duty. The state wasted millions of dollars because Walker did exactly what he told Wisconsin voters he would do. What a concept.

    Posted by: LincolnLounger | Jun 6, 2012 10:22:40 AM


  22. Dead, my ass. Democracy just KICKED BARRETT'S ASS in Wisconsin!

    Posted by: Scotty Bear | Jun 6, 2012 10:26:47 AM


  23. Unions simply don't enjoy the kind of support they once had. Public sector unions' demands, combined with local politicians' inclination to borrow from future generations in the form of pension benefits etc. has made the model unsustainable. Although we historically owe a lot to unions, in recent decades they have overreached, so this backlash against them is not surprising. I definitely feel this way and I've never voted for a Republican in my life.

    Posted by: Chris | Jun 6, 2012 10:41:24 AM


  24. America! You can afford pensions! If you can afford trillions of dollars for overseas wars, then you can certainly afford pensions! Is killing off Arab socialism in the Mid East more important than taking care of your own? I suppose so, if you want a global empire. So who wants this global empire? Multinational corporations want foreign markets.

    So what kind of democracy do you envision? Gang rape is democratic. Five say 'yes', one says 'no' to sexual intercourse. Is that democracy? Or is it that the right to form associations and group self-determination comprise democratic goals? If self-determination is the truest form of democracy, then yes, democracy is truly dead.

    America, get ready for the gang rape.

    Posted by: screech | Jun 6, 2012 10:59:57 AM


  25. Most of the comments on this thread show me what I have always known about American gays. We as a group tend to be socially liberal but fiscally conservative. A demographic ripe for conversion to the GOP, however the powers that be in that political party sat down and decided that conservative religious voters are a larger voting block. So therefore, we have been thrown off the bus of inclusion.
    The supreme court in 2000 gave the election to bush, even tho gore had the majority vote. The supreme court has now given the election to romney via citizens united. If you never see "causality" as the frenchman in the matrix said, you fail to ever see whole pictures of how things happen. This vote should have been about big money on politics. The unions are being busted because they are the dems biggest PACs. I hate to say but obama will not be reelected. The repubs will keep the house, prob win back the senate. The ultra rich will get a permanent tax break, granting them a "special class" status. The country will sink lower into a latin american type socio-economic model. Bye Bye middle class. Hellloooo plutocratic banana republic. If you vote your rights away. Dont complain. The SCOTUS is also empowered to scuttle any chance of us ever getting marriage. U know why? It aint our rights. Its the fact the repubs dont pay entitlements for anyone but the ultra rich. and they consider us wanting equal marriage merely a payout from social security, health care, etc.

    Posted by: stevenelliot | Jun 6, 2012 11:00:45 AM


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