‘National Same-Sex Kiss Day’ at Chick-Fil-A on August 3

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The Chick-Fil-A wars heat up with supporters of equality on Facebook organizing an event of protest on August 3:

In honor of their support for love, equality, and the real definition of family, we're holding a NATIONAL Same Sex Kiss Day at Chick Fil A's around the country. So grab a friend (or 20) and head out to your nearest Chick Fil A! And don't forget to post photos/videos of it here! For all the world to see!

Comments

  1. ty says

    it’s kind of ironic with all the articles regarding Chick-fil-a at Towleroad lately, all the of ads on the site are *for* chick-fil-A (some sort of weird coupon deal that that I keep seeing at least)

  2. says

    I think I agree with Emmy.

    While I get why the protest is important, they’re protesting against a corporation that isn’t going to change, no matter how many people file in and make out.

  3. david says

    there are two types of people, the doers and the talkers. When other people are organizing and doing things that are slowly but surely changing the public standard of how to respect gay community in general, the least you can do is not to self-indulgently telling other people that their effort is self-indulging.

  4. Scott Wooledge says

    OK, I’ll try to explain.

    The point isn’t to change Chick-Fil-A’s minds or policies. That is almost certainly futile.

    The point is to demonstrate to other people, and indeed, even other companies, that there is serious opposition to Chick-Fil-A’s comments and activities.

    If just one company is deterred in the future from donating $100K to National Organization for Marriage, it will have been an hour well-spent.

    Besides, it’s probably going to be a fun day for a lot of people.

  5. MaryM says

    If you enter a fast food establishment then aren’t you required to make a purchase?

    Surely then this protest will simply be giving money to Chick-Fil-A?

  6. says

    Did you realize that this Chick-Fil-A coverage has triggered a Google AdSense Chick-Fil-A coupon offer at the top of your blog? Hilarious! I may have to write about this on my blog.

  7. Mary says

    I have mixeed feelings about this. A kiss-in could be a great idea. The more people see same-sex couples kissing the more they will realize that these couples have (gasp!) …..chemistry with each other! We are one step closer to marriage equality nationwide when more people realize this.

    But it might be better to stage a “commitment gathering” – already married gay or lesbian couples (dressed conservatively so as not to appear “eccentric”) retake their vows and then kiss. Afterwards they all celebrate by eating a chicken sandwhich that they bought at a different fast-food restaurant. There are many people who’ve never seen a gay wedding and would realize that such an event can be beautiful rather than scary. I think you have a better chance of winning people over if the focus is on commitment rather than solely on kissing.

    Just my opinion.

  8. says

    This seems really counter-productive to me. It’s just going to confirm a lot of anti-gay bias.

    I got more mileage out of turning down lunch with my Mom at Chick-Fil-A because of this (and told her why).

  9. stillmarriedinCA says

    The people who see same-sex kissing as “too controversial” need to deal with their own internalized homophobia. There is nothing wrong with being gay and there is nothing wrong with kissing someone of the same gender. A kiss-in is a non-violent way of protesting while drawing attention to the hate that Chik-fil-a supports.
    Bravo to the people who are organizing and participating in this and shame on all of you will do nothing to help our cause and only try to shoot down anybody who cares enough to act.

  10. sparks says

    I think there is a time and a place for in-your-face protesting but this doesn’t feel like an instance where PDA is appropriate. Whatever else it is and whatever its hateful policies are, Chik-Fil-A is an eating establishment, and quite frankly I don’t want to watch anyone making out at a restaurant, gay or straight.

    I’m down with signs, picketing, etc… but slobbering all over someone else doesn’t fit, in my opinion.

  11. D says

    This is probably a silly idea.

    1) Yes, let’s all go to Chick-Fil-A on Friday, August 3rd. Let’s give the anti-gay company just a little more money to use against us.

    2) Let’s publicly announce it for the anti-gay nut jobs, so they can join us, it’ll be fun, meet there around 8pm. Right?

    3) Let’s make it easier for nut jobs to wipe us out in one swift move, I’ll be there with all my friends, you should come, it will be a blast.

    Sorry to sound so callous, but we tried this many years ago against Cracker Barrell, it turned out to be a disaster for us, the restaurants knew we were coming so they prepared by having a few cops on hand, and a few extra patrons to watch the freak show, you know Drag Queens and such.
    Anyone on our side that made a stink was arrested for either disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace, not a big charge maybe, but was held overnight for processing. Not to mention that there were news crews there to record every silly move, not by the restaurant, but by us.

  12. stillmarriedinCA says

    @Sparks–GOOD! If you don’t want to watch anyone kissing at a restaurant, then don’t go to Chick-fil-a. Take your business elsewhere. Mission accomplished. We should hold a kiss-in there everyday.

  13. sparks says

    All I’m saying is, I think that kind of protest has its place, but this isn’t one of them. Making out in a restaurant is lewd… and being lewd or (what MANY will think is) inappropriate isn’t exactly going to win people over. When the average citizen sees this stuff on TV (if protesters are lucky enough to get publicity) it’s going to make them sympathize with Chik-Fil-A.

  14. Randy says

    1. No one is required to purchase anything from entering a fast food establishment.

    2. No one is saying that protesters should purchase any items. Therefore, there will be no money from our pockets.

    3. There is nothing wrong with someone kissing another person in a fast food place. It happens all the time.

    4. It probably won’t produce any immediate change. But like Cracker Barrel, they may eventually change their tune. I don’t know. But what I DO know is that if there is no pressure to change, they won’t.

    5. A kiss-in will repel the homophobes as they won’t want to go there on that day, depriving them of that revenue.

    6. If we do this on a regular basis, eventually the homophobes will decide to avoid them in order to now see gays kissing.

    7. It’s a lesson to other companies that might want to be homophobic that perhaps there is a downside.

    8. Already, the company is trying to back tract from Cathy’s statements. The more we put pressure on them, the more they are caught between a variety of competing interests. If they insist on being homophobic, then let’s make life as uncomfortable for them as possible.

  15. Iwontgrowup says

    How about a new ad slogan for their competitors (KFC, Churches etc)
    “OUR CHICKENS DON’T DESCRIMINATE WE LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR ANYONE”

  16. PAUL B. says

    @Sparks…I guess you forgot how nice a kiss can feel. It’s not “slobbering”…or maybe for you it is. Hide out and slobber all you want.

  17. PAUL B. says

    @Sparks…the more I read your comments, the dumber you sound. “Making out” & “slobbering”…are the words you choose to use to describe A KISS! You must be thinking…”oops, have I said too much”? The resounding answer you should hear is…YES!!

  18. Mary says

    Paul, at the risk of you considering me arrogant and snarky, may I defend those who view public kissing as slobbering? It is not that THEY see kissing as lewd or inappropriate, it’s that those they are trying to reach may view it this way. Which is one reason why I suggested a “marriage-in” instead of a “kiss-in.” Once again, the question is do you want to feel self-righteous or do you want to win people over? Take it from someone who has been in the cultural right for decades: a lot of people when they think of gays are imagining anal sex. Let them see gay marriages and they’ll be forced to confront their phobias. Gay kissing is not the same turn-off as anal sex but it still turns off some (as it causes some to rethink things.) Gradually people will accept gays expressing somne physical affection in public. There’s no reason why they all have to accept it right now for progress to be made.

    Now go ahead and fire away, Paul……..!

  19. Jeff says

    Going to be funny when the cops are called do to all this, would love to watch that. If you don’t like a store policy don’t go, but creating a disturbance won’t change anything. All this will hopefully do is show how far people like this are willing to go to make them self look like fools.

  20. Mary says

    What the problem, Paul? Angry that I’m no longer an opponent of marriage equality? Always a shame when an opponent switches sides isn’t it? I mean what are you supposed to do with all the stored-up hostility? …….. be gracious and quietly glad that your side has more support now?

  21. stillmarriedinCA says

    @Mary and Sparks (if they are actually different people)–Why don’t you call the police and get them to raid all the sports arenas and baseball stadiums all over this country? They have these “kissing cams” where they focus on couples and force them to perform lewd acts and then PROJECT THEM on a big screen so that even CHILDREN are forced to watch these LEWD ACTS of kissing!! And they even serve food at these stadiums!

  22. PAUL B. says

    @STILLMARRIED…thank you for that!! Food and same-sex kissing at the same venue. OMG! However are they going to clean things us afterwards?

  23. robert says

    These kinds of demonstartions DO make a difference because they help point out inequities and absurdities. Not sure how many recall anti-war social activist Jerry Rubin. In his 1970 book “DO IT : Scenarios of the Revolution”, he suggested people go into banks and urinate/defacate in order to make a point. The point is to make a point and be heard.

  24. PAUL B. says

    @Robert…I do remember, I was part of those demonstrations. Never did “those things”….but understood why they were important….and still are!

  25. Shelly says

    I think there is a time and a place for this style of action, but this particular instance isn’t one of them. I have been boycotting this company since I learned of their existence by moving to the rural, deep south nearly twenty years ago and in that time have had to explain my position dozens of times over to sympathetic straight folk who were completely clueless to this company’s political wheelings and dealings. And now in the midst of this current wave of public visibility, when it seems people at-large are finally starting to take notice that something’s afoot, I have had to educate many, many more otherwise well-meaning friends who are not savvy to Christianist code-words that this is NOT as Cathy and Huckabee say merely a company that “supports traditional family values” but that is actively channeling millions of dollars annually into efforts to preserve civil inequality/injustice and keep people like us second-class citizens.

    Which is to say, the point of an action like this IS to raise awareness and educate the public, but given that the vast majority of Chik-Fil-A’s are located in extremely conservative areas of the country, this kind of in-the-face, provocative action will likely do more to turn would-be allies in these communities off than it would be to educate them to our concerns, and would end up just reinforcing the impression that it’s US who are being intolerant, etc.

    A standard-issue picketing/passing out of literature type action where protesters are on their “best behavior” re: locally prevalent norms of behavior would be much, much more effective.

  26. johnny says

    Well, I guess we need some ground rules for the whole kissing thing.

    1. No excessive slobber or saliva of any kind.

    2. Certainly no tongues.

    3. Do not let your lips linger on your partner’s lips for more than 3 – 4 seconds. Use a stopwatch if necessary.

    4. Do not look around the room with a knowing look while kissing.

    5. Try to keep away from The Children.

    6. Pecks on the cheek are encouraged.

    7. Please wash up afterward.

    You’re welcome.

  27. stillmarriedinCA says

    Shelley/Mary/Sparks–There is hardly anything in everyday life worth doing that doesn’t make these right wing christo fascists uncomfortable. So gearing any equal rights protest around what is acceptable to the haters is a ridiculous proposition. If you are worried about what people are gonna think, you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

  28. sparks says

    @stillmarriedinCA – I said I didn’t care to watch people — gay or straight — kissing in a food establishment, and I was quite clear about that.

    Choosing to twist my words out of context to imply internalized homophobia says a lot about you and your inability to come up with a sensible rebuttal.

  29. skip says

    You do realize that the comments were made by a corporate representative, but the individual stores are owned by different people.

    So all the boycotts, sit ins and kissing just mess with the locally owned stores, which can then fold and the corporate office just re-sells the territory..

  30. says

    @Mary: I believe you’re confused about types of protest. A kiss-in is an act of defiance, as, historically, many protests have been. It’s not a win-people’s-hearts-and-minds action (that, too, is important but it happens differently); it’s a rallying call. Now, some may find defiant protests distasteful, but that’s part of the point. Some may also find them unwise, but that’s a matter of opinion.

    Having some sort of bogus commitment ceremony in front of a Chik-Fil-A would be very strange, both for any couple (CFA backdrop, gross!) and as an act of protest. But, hey, if someone wants to do it, their right.

    If straight onlookers are thinking of anal sex seeing two women kiss, or two men, then they’re probably dreaming about anal sex all on their own. (It would be like me seeing a woman kissing someone and next picturing her giving birth with all those gory details.) And for such people the idea of gay people committing to one another is no less threatening than the idea of them having sex. In other words, they have personal issues no protest will solve. Therapy might help them, maybe.

    I do wish, however, that I had a dollar for every time you use a word like “gradually” as your advice for how to gain acceptance from bigots. My bank account would be filling right up! Those who protest with gradual goals fail. If I were the cynical sort, I’d suspect you of repeatedly offering intentionally bad advice.

  31. Bob says

    THE POINT of doing this is to get public and media attention on the discrimination.
    Some of the commenters, above, illustrate why Gay causes tend to languish in fear, shame, and inaction, while the hater-churches march right over us.
    I WOULD PREFER TO TO TO CHICK FIL A AND URINATE ON THE FLOOR — which they well deserve — but I know it would be a poor idea.

  32. stillmarriedinCA says

    Sparks–These are your words “I said I didn’t care to watch people — gay or straight — kissing in a food establishment.” “Making out in a restaurant is lewd…”

    I don’t have to twist your words to make you sound bad. You are doing a great job yourself.

    I merely pointed out that if kissing is lewd, than those kiss-cams ought to be banned and I hope you are campaigning vigorously to do so.
    And if you don’t want to be around kissing in a restaurant, then don’t GO! We want people to stop buying their products so this is a great response. Apparently you think just like these wingnuts so that confirms that this is the right thing to do…even though you keep trying to say it is a bad idea.

  33. dave says

    Glad to see that we are watering down the term “Hate Crime”.

    Also, Liberals are supposed to be the open-minded side. Why does it always have to be your side or no side? They have made their stance clear. The most powerful way to show your disagreement is to not eat there.

    This kind of thing only makes anti-gay marriage people less likely to change their minds. Baby-steps, in a more positive manner will get us there quicker.

  34. stillmarriedinCA says

    Dave. er Mary, er Shelly, er, Sparks. Go take your baby steps off a short pier.

    If you would like to organize a protest in the manner that you deem acceptable, please do. I’m not sure you will surprise us when it doesn’t materialize.

    In the meantime, stop trying to undermine the people who are actually WORKING toward change and making things happen. You are part of the enemy until you learn that lesson. But then, I think that may be where your allegiance lies anyway.

  35. PAUL B. says

    All these wishy-washy “psudo-gays” are posting today. Frankly, it all sounds like the same milktoast, whitebread, vanilla sex, boring person to me. Get the f out of here and go bake bread with each other somewhere…Mary, Dave, Shelly.
    @ Bob…you’ve got the right idea !!! Piss on them one & all.

  36. Mary says

    I’m not pseudo-gay, I’m a straight ally of the gay community. Dave, Shelley, and Bob can speak for themselves. As for vanilla and whitebread, they may be boring, but they can be helpful. Gay rights laws now pass because square and “milquetoast” politicians now support them. There aren’t enough Barney Franks to change the law. Don’t knock boring, Paul B. Excitement is politics is vastly overrated.

  37. Josh says

    You guys do a good Madison Avenue with the copy and the print, but don’t you think in light of the recent violence in Colorado this might not be wise? You’re turning a kiss into a possible provocation for violence. People will hate gays without any assistance from you.

  38. Brett says

    you’re not gonna change anything with Chick-Fil-A. They’re a Christian organization. That’s why they don’t support your ideas. Creating a day to show how rude you can possibly by displaying your ignorance towards the First Amendment just makes me sick. Please stop it. You’re making the human race look bad.

  39. Josh says

    David: If you want to jump off a bridge don’t let me stop you. This will mean nothing in the scope of gay history, unless it gets violent.
    You know how much attention violence gets.

  40. Tim says

    Me thinks we need to place a twink (aka “chicken”) between two men at every Chick-fil-A and show them what a REAL chicken sandwich looks like!

  41. says

    Those chick-fil-a ads appear on the site because of keyword matching. If you support this cause, you should click on them, as it will cost the company more money. (and a small cut will make it to this site)

    Don’t go crazy and click 100’s of times, as that can trigger a fraud filter. Click once, and think ca-ching$.

    Yes, this is counter-intuitive, but I always smile when the opponent is funding my protest.

  42. Jerry6 says

    I wonder what would happen if people told the owners of the space occupied by Chick-Fil-A that they will no longer shop at the shopping center if Chick-Fil-A’s lease is renewed when it expires? As most leases (For small stores) are generally for periods of 10 years, some must be coming up for renewal in the near future.

  43. Shelly says

    stillmarriedinca, there are MANY ways to work towards change as I have been doing for the last twenty years by living my life openly and honestly in a decidedly hostile environment and doing my best to educate and advocate among people whose only contact with any of these issues to this point has been filtered through hateful, ignorant propaganda which they have hitherto absorbed unchallenged for lack of any contact with the reality that we ARE just as they are and are NOT out to spit on or destroy all that they hold dear, and though I’ve weathered more than a few battle scars along the way, the results have been overwhelmingly positive.

    Most of the people holding onto these atavistic views are NOT actively hateful. They are good, decent people trying their best to make sense of the world and do right, but like all of us, they are products of their environment. And if the only voices they hear on this issue are from trusted authority figures such as preachers and tribally-aligned politicians vs what looks to them like a mob of outsiders insisting everything they’ve been led to believe is a lie and that they are hateful monsters, guess who they’re gonna believe? And though it often goes unsung, I think a LOT of the progress we’ve made over the years has been as much by the humble efforts of people like myself moving outside the ghettos or refusing to leave their hometowns and honestly, openly, and respectfully standing their ground and speaking their truth as it has been a result of ACT-UP, Queer Nation and the like, to say nothing of raging partisan comment sections on the internet.

    We all have our place and we all have our part in the struggle, but I see things like this and fear it will do more harm than good in a town like mine. That’s all.

  44. Mary says

    “If I were the cynical sort, I’d suspect you of repeatedly offering intentionally bad advice.”

    Ernie, if what I’ve done on Towleroad in the past few months isn’t enough to convince you that I’m on board with full equality for gays (contributing to Freedom to Marry, Marriage Equality USA, and joining the Log Cabin Republicans) then I’m not sure what would convince you. But there are people who have “cautious” wired into their way of thinking – they always like to look at things historically and take the long-range view. I’m this type of person. I was this way when I was “anti-gay” (I put it in quotation marks because I was never actually hostile to gays) and now that I’m pro-equality I’m still this way.

    But as someone who was until recently on the other side of this issue I know what that side is hoping for. A revival of 1960’s style activism would make Maggie, Brian, and all conservatives thrilled. I’ll go further and reveal a secret that no other conservative will admit to publicly. Many of us on the cultural Right have a secret prayer that goes something like this : “Please God….Chicago ’68…..one more time!” We know that the quickest route to victory for us is to win by default because the the Left appears flamboyant, violent, and anti-American. And yes, it made me feel like sh** inside to hope for situations that I knew would endanger people’s safety, and eventually I couldn’t live with the guilt anymore.

    You often forget that not much of the U.S. is as liberal as your state of Vermont. As always, its the people on the middle you want to persuade, not the hard-core Christian Rightists. Yes, gays need to be visible and to protest/boycott, but keep it civil and respectful. Your best bet is to talk to people who switched from anti-gay to pro-gay and ask them what caused the change – in-depthh surveys of such people will confirm the things I’m saying here.

    If I wanted to sabotage I’d encourage false over-confidence, which the cultural Left has always been prone to anyway.

  45. Karen says

    When did it become illegal in America to have a different belief? Is the pro gay movement deciding to force itself on the rest of the country? There is no hate coming from a person just because they do not agree with you. You are the hater.

  46. Lee says

    It’s not someone being gay that bothers me. It’s te way some of them like to throw it in others faces. The whole “we’re here and we’re queer” thing is unnecessary. More times than not, they are obnoxious about it.

  47. says

    It seems to me that the real hate going on is the hate “pro-gay” people have for Chick-fil-a.

    Aug 1 is the support Chick-fil-A day for having an opinion and being hated for it… I plan to go on Aug 1st! And I will plan to purchase something from Chick-fil-A on Aug 3rd… I hope I am not hated for doing such.

    PS… I also hope I am not a victim of hate because posting to this sight…

  48. john says

    It seems that Chick-fil-a is not refusing service to any GLBT. If an executive has an opinion that is different from those in the GLBT community, why isnt’ there tolerance for a different opinion. As long as that opinion doesn’t restrict another person’s rights, then it’s just a different opinion that should be tolerated and discussed like all others. It seems that too many of us are only tolerant of opinions like our own.

  49. says

    I am so sick and tired of the double standard. Gays and Lesbians want us to accept and tolerate their beliefs and way of life but they are unwilling to accept or tolerate what a Christian believes. I see no haters here on the Christian side. I see Christians holding true to their beliefs, supporting the causes they choose with their money. There are always going to be isolated incidents of haters in EVERY group but to characterize ALL Christians as haters and all gays and lesbians as haters is wrong. Furthermore, to enter a family establishment with PDAs FORCED upon the patrons is unbelievably disrespectful to all families. Gays and Lesbians, you can’t have it both ways no matter how hard you try. You want respect? Show respect.

  50. Michelle says

    Look the point isnt to go in and make out slobbering all over people or groping or sticking ur tongue down somebodys throat. Since when did kissing turn into all that? If u dont wanna do it then dont. Just boycott or simply quit eating at chick fil a. Im personally proud of this movement. And its not a crime to give a kiss to ur better half in any place. I dont have a better half right now but hell honey to get the point across id embrace and kiss any willing woman in houston! PRIDE its more than a word

  51. joseph says

    dear sir you call us christians homophobic just because we dont agree with gay marriages but the owner of chick fila just said he believed in a man and a women and he was asked b a baptist runned media organization and the owner of chick fila is a baptist he never mentioned gay marriage or anything else i think the gay community is taking the comments of one person and twisting it to be something it is not so if ever person who is against gay marriage is homophobic then can we say that all gays who oppose hetrosexual marriages as being hetrophobics

  52. Jess says

    The gay community needs to calm down. The question was asked and Chick fil-A gave them an honest response. It’s not like they woke up in the morning and decided to announce to the world that they are against gay marriage. Every person/company has the freedom of speech and religion. They are not forcing their beliefs down anybody’s throat, just delicious chicken. They do not refuse to serve you if you’re gay nor do they have a sign outside their door saying “Gays not allowed”. They are one of few companies in the US that are closed on Sunday. In most US families, Sunday is a day of worship no matter who your God is. I honestly have no problem with gay marriage. Statistically, they last longer than straight marriages. If you don’t agree with their beliefs, then don’t eat there. Boycotting them in opening new restaurants is ridiculous and childish in my opinion. Can’t we all just act like adults and say that opinions are like assholes, everybody has one!!!

  53. Brandon says

    Both sides of this protest thing are wrong.

    Chick-Fil-A: Resturaunts are were people come to sit and eat… you don’t need to hold a moral value or political position to serve me a sandwich. You are a service provider and there for have no right to nitpick at who you like. People eat at your resturaunt because they like chicken… not God.

    Pro-Kiss Day Peeps: Chick-Fil-A is not pressing it’s beliefs on you. They are just saying they don’t agree with you. Everyone is has an opinion and we have to live with it. There is no need to protest unless they are denieing service, or leading a negative campaign.

  54. Weasler says

    Just remember, folks. If you see a lot of barfing at a local Chick-Fil-A on Friday, it’ll be due to the FAGS, not the FOOD.

    I was just at a Chick-Fil-A at a Northern New Jersey shopping mall. The line was THREE HOURS LONG!! There were so many people, they had to open a service hall used by employees for the line to extend into!

    So go ahead, homos! HAVE your kissing day. The people there will need a good laugh.

  55. CMS says

    I don’t want to see ANYONE kissing in Chick Fil A! I don’t care if your hetero or homo….go get a room and let everyone eat their meal. One other thought, if people go in to the Chick Fil A with the intention of not purchasing and blocking customers and just being in there to kiss (again, hetero or homo) they will be removed (rightfully so) for blocking the private business owners facility. So you may have to make a purchase if you’d like to stay and smooch.
    Those of us who support the right of Chick Fil A owner to state what he believes in ALSO support the rights of those who don’t agree to peacefully protest without interfering in a private business owners venture. God Bless America

  56. LauraLoonie says

    Folks, it is a private company and they can say what they want. If you are offended, then don’t show up at the establishment. You can’t run to Mommy your entire life and whine like a 3 year old. Learn to deal with the fact that you will not be liked by everyone and everyone does NOT have to like you. If you work for a corporation, then what I am telling you should not be news!

  57. LauraLoonie says

    Folks, it is a private company and they can say what they want. If you are offended, then don’t show up at the establishment. You can’t run to Mommy your entire life and whine like a 3 year old. Learn to deal with the fact that you will not be liked by everyone and everyone does NOT have to like you. If you work for a corporation, then what I am telling you should not be news!

  58. LauraLoonie says

    Folks, it is a private company and they can say what they want. If you are offended, then don’t show up at the establishment. You can’t run to Mommy your entire life and whine like a 3 year old. Learn to deal with the fact that you will not be liked by everyone and everyone does NOT have to like you. If you work for a corporation, then what I am telling you should not be news!

  59. Compassionate Bigot says

    Backfire.

    Was it the intention of several prominent mayors to bring additional business to Chick-Fil-A by announcing their efforts to ban their restaurants from their jurisdictions? They’ve done more business on a Wed than they usually do in 5 days (most closed early due to running out of their usual 5 day supply of ingredients).

    When the PTA is upset with a school issue, they don’t invade a class in progress and start kissing each other. If you defecate in a bank while I am there, I will not be interested in your anti-war opinions. If you loiter in Chick-Fil-A witout making a purchase and intentionally go there to make out to cause a disturbance in front of my 6 year old daughter,it will affirm to me that this lifestyle is anti-social and its members are disrespectful to the general public.

    When I was a Christian, I evangelized many converts by befriending them and through a long term relationshing, sharing how my faith brought joy and peace to my life. Not by confronting them, arguing with them, or calling them names and designating them as my enemy. I treated non-believers as a potential brother or sister in faith, and eventually I won most of them over. [They were pretty shocked when I renounced my faith.]

    The point is, you’ll make more enemies than friends if you particpate in a mass tresspassing/kissing demonstration. You want the CEO’s to think twice? Their patrons will write them, donate money, and encourage them to fight the good fight, after having been afronted and directly challenged. Talk shows will invite them, they’ll get a ton of interviews and airtime. They’ll think twice alright.

    A baptist evangelical since the age of 3 and for more than 30 yrs, I’ve begun to empathize after becoming close friends with two homosexual co-workers. The mayor’s intentions to ban Chick-Fil-A brought out the fight in me; for my children and their children’s sake. The gender which others choose for marriage affects my life because its creates an influence on my children’s upbringing. You can’t tell me to take my family somewhere else to raise them (like Iran, perhaps), because I could say the same to LGBT couples and families. In this plurality which make us strong as a nation, we have to respect one another and learn to not only live together, but thrive together. So, lets not get combative – it never solves anything for the better. Always better to play nice.

  60. Amy says

    Ok, this is crazy, and major defamation of character. It’s very sad that someone who believes that the covenant of marriage is meant for a man and woman is someone who believes that God hates fags is a crazy conclusion. I don’t know of one Christian who is homophobic or hates fags. Most are just the opposite. I admit a lot of Christians don’t know what to think of gays because it’s so foreign to their own thoughts, but accusing someone of hatred because they love God and their families takes poor poor character. I guess people with poor character are quick to assume that about others.

  61. Katy says

    I think this is only going to be counterproductive for the gay community for several reasons. Firstly, you’re talking about people being tolerant, but have no tolerance yourselves. Practice what you preach so to speak. This is America. We have the 1st amendment for a reason and that means we can state our individual views without risk of government persecution. Secondly, if the restaurant feels that paying customers are uncomfortable due to the actions of other people (especially those that aren’t purchasing anything) they have the right to ask you to step off the premises. If you don’t leave, it will become trespassing and that leads to tickets and/or arrest. It’s not worth the money for fines or the smudge on your record. Thirdly, since you will be stuck outside, that leaves your group open for homophobic retaliation. I will hope that violence will not happen, but there are a lot of unstable people out there that may become unhinged when this happens. And lastly, this isn’t going to prevent customers. The restaurant isn’t going to allow you to be inside, so those in support will most likely just show up anyway. By all means, exercise your right to picket and speak out freely, but a kiss in isn’t the way to gain sympathizers. I support chick fil a because to me this is an attack on the freedom of speech that this country allows, not because of the gay marriage debate. This company gives money and support to organizations that share their values or beliefs and that’s their choice. Supporting the traditional family is not a bad thing. I also read the interview and it says nothing about gay or lesbian relationships. It seems that he is talking about divorce and helping families stay together in a divorce happy culture. With financial difficulty being a major contributer to divorce, and a failing economy, it makes sense that he would put his money into organizations that provide alternatives to divorce. He doesnt say anything in the interview about LGBT lifestyles That’s an assumption by anti-christian groups and the liberal media to start up a storm against christianity and the principles of that belief system. You talk about tolerance, and people being judgemental, but you’re in essence doing exactly that. You assume that because a Christian person supports the traditional family, that they hate gay people. He may indeed be opposed to the lifestyle, but I see no evidence that he hates gay people. You may assume that I am homophobic because I don’t support you on this, but no I am not. I’ve never been uncomfortable around gay people and have over the years made friends with many gays and lesbians and supporters of the entire community.

  62. Tiredoftheissue says

    All he said was he believed in what the bible said about marriage nothing about gays. I am a Christian and I believe in what the Bible says about marriage. It also says do not judge, and I am not here to judge. Lets stop making this a straight/gay issue and realize this is really about freedom of speech. Obama said last year he believed in what the bible said about marriage but nobody complained then. We are going to become a communist country if we cannot say what we want to say. Agencies are going against the 1st amendment and 2nd amendment. Open our eyes people!!!!!! Get educated about the real problems in this world and being straight/gay is not the real problem!! There are other major issues out there!! Cancer,shooting, death, economy,jobs, just to name a few!

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