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Australian Senate Also Votes Down Federal Marriage Equality

AussieprotestLess than 24 hours after the Australian House of Representatives rejected a federal marriage equality bill, the nation's Senate did the same with a 41 to 26 vote.

One of the lawmakers who voted for marriage, Liberal senator Sue Boyce, later read the riot act to her colleagues, insisting that same-sex couples deserve marriage because, shocker, "gay people are just people."

"There are good gays and bad gays; rich gays and poor gays; gays who want to get married and gays who don't; gays who like footy and gays who don't; gays who want children and those who don't," she said, before noting she also supports churches being able to make their own religion-based decision on the matter.

On the other end of the ideological spectrum, opposing Sen. John Madigan claimed equality supporters were unfairly smearing people like him:

Democratic Labor Party Senator John Madigan said he was appalled at the vilification of MPs who opposed the change.

"Under the guise of compassion for the desire of same-sex couples, we have endured a non-stop campaign of denigration against those who have refused to buckle under the weight of an attack designed to pour scorn and guilt on those who have the temerity to refuse to deny their principles," he said.

Senator Madigan said if the argument for same-sex marriage was based on love, respect, dignity and equality, those advocating the legislation needed to practice what they preached.

He said love should not be the basis for any legislative change.

"Nowhere in the Marriage Act is the word love even mentioned," he said.

Madigan said the state needs to regulate marriages, because it is "a partnership with social consequences."

"Marriage is less about the rights of the adult than about the rights and responsibilities those adults have towards the children of the relationship," he said. Perhaps people who don't plan on having children should be barred from tying the knot as well, then?

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  1. why exactly do they have mardi gras there ? How about moving it to Spain or one of the countries that have full equality and actually need the tourist money ?

    Posted by: paul | Sep 20, 2012 8:30:45 AM


  2. Very sad, but very unsurprising. Australia is going to look very bad in comparison with countries like France, England on the path towards marriage equality and the US with Prop 8 and DOMA potentially/likely repealed in the very near future. There doesn't seem enough of a channel of support to reach in Australia with legislators. Labor and Liberal are both too conservative and too worried about losing conservative voters, even though consistently, poll to poll, around 2/3s of Australians are for marriage equality.

    Are there any Aussies here that can describe the landscape of the marriage equality fight in the country? Is there any hope for it becoming legal anytime soon?

    Posted by: Francis | Sep 20, 2012 8:33:31 AM


  3. Most infuriating off all perhaps are the anti-gay lawmakers from all over the globe who whine and moan when they are called out for their bigotry.

    Their laws, or refusal to pass them, impacts our lives. They tell society via these decisions that "gay is not ok" and in turn we are harassed, bullied, and beaten. Our families are considered less in the eyes of our peers and our governments.

    Don't wike to be cwalled a vewy bad name like "bigot?" Stop being one.

    Posted by: kp05 | Sep 20, 2012 8:35:27 AM


  4. How dare people call them bigots! I mean, how dare we point out the only reason to deny gay people the right to marry is because you don't like gay people.

    Posted by: Michael | Sep 20, 2012 8:39:50 AM


  5. Marriage has nothing to do with children. Those are entirely optional.

    Posted by: Steve | Sep 20, 2012 8:54:27 AM


  6. The thing about Australia is that it has coasted on this image of being laid back and relaxed for so many years. This image, only part true, has bred a certain apathy, not just within the general population but also within the gay community.

    Therefore, the gay community in Australia thought that being able to have a festival of sex, which is essentially what Mardi Gras is today, was somehow indicative of community and political acceptance. How wrong they were!!!

    The blame for the failure of progress on same-sex marriage must be apportioned to the Australian gay community for being apathetic for so many years and also for being highly disorganized. There is no real structure with Aussie gays - certainly no GLAAD or Human Rights Campaign-type organization. All they really seem to care about over there is attending dance parties rather than activism.

    Aussie gays tend to be very poor activists. They're also very beholden to the political Left, a fact which makes them less and less influential. As I've said before, when you worship a certain political party, that party takes you for granted and plays with your emotions because it knows that you won't be taking your vote elsewhere.

    Posted by: jason | Sep 20, 2012 9:15:37 AM


  7. THINK of the CHILDREN!

    Posted by: Sargon Bighorn | Sep 20, 2012 9:36:42 AM


  8. Crikey! I guess me and my best mate won't be marrying anytime soon.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Sep 20, 2012 9:39:33 AM


  9. Sue Boyce did not vote for marriage, she abstained. Please correct this.

    Posted by: Chris | Sep 20, 2012 10:34:38 AM


  10. As usual, pure political trollery from Jason, who almost certainly knows less about Australian politics than he does about American politics. They are "beholden" to the left because the left are the only ones who give a damn about gay equality! Nobody cares what you say, so please go away.

    Posted by: EchtKultig | Sep 20, 2012 11:26:43 AM


  11. He says that the Marriage Act doesn't mention "love" and therefor shouldn't be the basis of determining who can get married. Then he goes on to say that marriage is about children. He fails to not that the Marriage Act doesn't mention "children" and he fails to mention that straight couples unable or unwilling to have children cannot be denied the right to marry.

    Posted by: TampaZeke | Sep 20, 2012 12:25:50 PM


  12. "Same-sex debate now shifts to states
    Tasmania's lower house passed a bill last month to legalise gay marriage. It must still pass the state's 15-seat Legislative Council to become law. Efforts to legalise same-sex marriage are also under way in South Australia, the ACT and NSW, where the Premier, Barry O'Farrell, will allow his MPs a free vote." http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/samesex-debate-now-shifts-to-states-20120919-2672d.html

    Posted by: Hue-Man | Sep 20, 2012 1:39:59 PM


  13. It's a dark day for representative democracy in Australia, when both houses of parliament vote heavily against the wishes of a clear majority of the citizens they represent, AND also against their fundamental rights of privacy, association, and religion, AND also enforce discrimination on the bases of sex and sexual orientation.

    Posted by: Randy | Sep 20, 2012 2:26:22 PM


  14. um......remind me...how long ago was it that Australia had that 'white's only" immigration rule?

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Sep 20, 2012 2:40:17 PM


  15. Little Kiwi, what does that have to do with anything? The US had a whites-only immigration act until 1965.

    Posted by: Freddie | Sep 20, 2012 9:37:25 PM


  16. I'm glad I abandoned plans to travel to Australia this summer. After realizing how anti-gay it is, they don't deserve my tourism dollars, nor is it worth the 24 hour flight.

    Posted by: Australia Sucks | Sep 21, 2012 2:13:37 AM


  17. Yes as an Australian it is dissapointing but @Jason do you have anything postive to say? @Australia sucks, I think you should look in your own backyard why would other nations citizens want to visit your country with so much visible gay hate crimes? in saying that I and alot of people dont view Amercans and America in such a narrow view for what a minority do so why view Australians in that way? Yes the head of the Australian government hasnt recognised gay marriage, but has the head of the Amercian government legalised it for all Americans? No..State Governments in Australia will pave the way just like the few states in America has done. My partner and I have every legal right in Australia just as hetrosexual couples, I have lived in 4 of our states here and have no issues the majority of Australians are accepting of gay marriage. if you want to throw hate onto a country then visit it before making a comment and again @Jason calling us rednecks, seriously do you actually know where Australia is on the map?

    Posted by: antony | Sep 21, 2012 10:59:00 AM


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