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Four U.S. Marines Arrested for Beating Gay Man at Long Beach Bar: VIDEO

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Four Marines from Southern California's Camp Pendleton were arrested early Sunday morning after they allegedly beat a gay man after taunting him with homophobic slurs inside the Silver Fox bar in Long Beach:

CharliePolice arrested the four Marines after they say the suspects beat the full-time film student until he passed out. They may be charged with a hate crime.

Charlie Harris (right) was working in the bar and ran to help. “You could hear the punches…it was bad,” Harris said.

“You just saw fists, and muscles, and tattoos, and all those guys were on top of him,” David, the victim’s boyfriend, said. He said he was too shocked to move.

Watch a report from the CBS local affiliate and interview with the victim, AFTER THE JUMP...

SilverfoxThe Press Telegram reports:

Silver Fox Manager John Barnes told the Press-Telegram on Monday that the four men came into the bar late Sunday or early Monday and the primary culprit, who seemed visibly uncomfortable while at the bar, called Barnes "sweetheart."

"You could tell by the tone of his voice that he was uncomfortable, he was making a demeaning remark," Barnes said.

The attack occurred as the bar was closing, with the primary suspect punching a young gay man who was much smaller, Barnes said. Police were on scene within moments of the call, and the suspects were detained and arrested for assault.

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  1. I have no idea if in some municipalities or jurisdictions if they do this-and I don't want to be in a way to find it out- but they should def make the perpetrators pay for the victim's damages. Streamline it- do a sort of IOU from the Sheriff's office until guilt can be determined.

    Posted by: scott | Sep 5, 2012 8:01:39 AM


  2. Terrible.... poor guy. I'm glad that hero was there-

    Its pretty obvious they went there to start trouble and hurt or kill someone

    Posted by: scott | Sep 5, 2012 8:03:05 AM


  3. These are four marines who are an embarrassment to those who serve and live honorably - and four who deserve a dishonorable discharge and some jail time with Bubba.

    Agree with Scott - the perpetrators should be required to pay restitution for hospitalization and medical care, and for pain and suffering inflicted on the victim.

    Posted by: Mitch | Sep 5, 2012 8:27:04 AM


  4. The military cannot properly punish men who murder civilians, who desecrate the bodies of the dead by urinating on them, who rape young girls when abroad. I wonder what they will do to four heroes who put a gay man in his place. I mean it's not like they beat a gay man in their platoon.

    Posted by: Ricco | Sep 5, 2012 8:31:19 AM


  5. His boyfriend was too shocked to move?!! I'd be looking for a new boyfriend after this.

    Posted by: JerzeeMike | Sep 5, 2012 8:35:53 AM


  6. Actually, the headline should read, "Four Closeted US Marines Arrested..."

    Just sickening. Of course, one of the interesting questions is: is it a gay bar?

    Posted by: Daniel Berry, NYC | Sep 5, 2012 8:44:47 AM


  7. Charlie Harris may not think of himself as a hero, but he definitely is. We've heard enough stories of soldiers off-combat murdering civilians in instances similar to this that Charlie's actions probably did end up saving the victim's life.

    Four straight-identifying marines go into a gay bar, openly say it's the first time they've ever been to a gay bar and proceed to appear "visibly uncomfortable", make snide/homophobic remarks, get drunk and beat a patron outside of the bar. It's clear to me these guys definitely went to the bar to cause problems. Either that or they're closeted and couldn't handle what they were experiencing. In either case, hopefully they are punished harshly.

    Posted by: Francis | Sep 5, 2012 8:48:54 AM


  8. @Daniel Berry: Yes, the Silver Fix is a gay bar.

    Posted by: Rich, San Jose | Sep 5, 2012 8:50:50 AM


  9. Why do I see typos only after posting? The Silver FOX, not the Silver Fix. :-O

    Posted by: Rich, San Jose | Sep 5, 2012 8:51:58 AM


  10. @ Rich: I have the same problem. I'm almost sure it's got something to do with a defect in my keyboard.

    Posted by: Daniel Berry, NYC | Sep 5, 2012 8:54:34 AM


  11. Straight boys don't trouble themselves about gay guys: it's as simple as that. Such a beating is driven by one thing: gay self-hatred. Those four "marines" are in for some bumpy nights in prison and perhaps an even bumpier road after that.

    I'm consoled by one thing: thirty or even twenty years ago nothing would have been done about this: if the cops had come they'd have blamed the kid who got beat up, given him a hard time and *nothing* would have happened to the four self-hating faggots in marine uniforms.

    Posted by: Daniel Berry, NYC | Sep 5, 2012 8:58:21 AM


  12. The Marines do have an Honor Code and this violates it, as they were not Defending themselves or the country against this man. They may be able to get some time for this, in the military.

    Posted by: DF | Sep 5, 2012 9:00:48 AM


  13. Yes it is, Daniel. These guys knew it too, they said it is the first gay bar they've ever been to. Supposedly there was one main attacker who was the one who made most of the anti-gay comments and was the one who first attacked the innocent patron.

    They didn't just go to this bar without reason. They went to this bar on purpose. It's almost amusing how men like this are so threatened and insecure regarding homosexuality. Very pathetic. Best wishes go out to the victim. And I agree with Scott that the attackers should pay 100% of the medical fees.

    Posted by: Francis | Sep 5, 2012 9:02:26 AM


  14. @Mitch: and also for the loss of income (if the victim is employed)

    Posted by: Pommie | Sep 5, 2012 9:08:17 AM


  15. The only bright points from this post are that the victim is recovering and that Mr Harris is an honourable man........unlike the honourless Marines.

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Sep 5, 2012 9:18:18 AM


  16. A true Marine would not have done anything like this. They are a disgrace to the service.

    Posted by: Jack M | Sep 5, 2012 9:19:52 AM


  17. I think that thye are going to go up before a military court and will probably get a court marshal - they can't plea that they were provoked - too many witnesses - they also can't say that since they were 'off base' and just 'messing around' that they should get a lighter sentence. The military OWNS you 24-7. --- if it goes down as a Hate Crime they will certainly see jail time in a Feceral prison as well as an unhonorable discharge. This will certainly send a message to all branches of the military.

    Posted by: Geo | Sep 5, 2012 9:36:48 AM


  18. It'll be double trouble for these 4 grunts. Once the civilian courts get done with them the military will prosecute them under the UCMJ, the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

    They most likely are on report already and having a very unpleasant time while the Corps waits on what the DA is going to do. These marines will get what they deserve.

    Posted by: Dearcomrade | Sep 5, 2012 10:10:25 AM


  19. Well, I have a lot of questions.

    It hardly makes sense that four straight guys just decided to go to a gay bar to pick on the patrons.

    Did they know it was a gay bar?

    Did the guy who got beat up make a pass at one of them assuming that they were gay since--duh--why else would they be in a gay bar?

    Are we certain these 4 guys are straight and not gay, themselves? Again, if they were not, then why were they in a gay bar?

    How many other patrons were there? I hope to God the bar was empty or nearly empty--otherwise, this is just another example of gay men being a bunch of pathetic sissies for not going after the culprits, assuming they outnumbered the culprits by a wide margin.......and if you are not even willing to defend yourselves in your own spaces, why should anybody respect you?

    We need a lot more information to make a judgment about the situation.

    Posted by: Rick | Sep 5, 2012 10:23:57 AM


  20. If things are handled properly the Marines in question will face justice twice, once in civilian court and then before a military Courts Martial. The civil charges will be drunk, disorderly, assault and battery and hopefully a hate crime. If they are jailed, that time will not be counted as military time served. If there is an award of damages to the victim, the Marine's will have their pay and allowances garnished by their Commanding Officer.

    Then once done with the civilian courts (both criminal and civil) they will face military justice, most likely a Court Martial which can also lead to imprisonment in the brig, reduction in rank, fines and worst of all, discharge under less than honorable conditions. That will mean total loss of ALL veterans benefits for life.

    I hope these four are dealt with in the most severe manor both civilly and militarily. The Marine Corps must establish a clear precedent if these types of incidents are to be stopped.

    Posted by: Bob R | Sep 5, 2012 10:29:59 AM


  21. @RICK You are one seriously, f*cked-up, self-loathing, pitiable, mean-spirited, miserable, little sissy-boy.

    Here's a suggestion: kiss our collective, queer, Towleroad asses.

    Posted by: jamal49 | Sep 5, 2012 10:47:09 AM


  22. @BOB R You are living in a fantasy world if you think any of that is going to happen. Guys get in fights all the time, especially Marines--it is part of the culture, as it has to be, given the profession they are in. And there is a high tolerance for it, as long as nobody was seriously debilitated or killed.

    Posted by: Rick | Sep 5, 2012 10:51:30 AM


  23. I know that bar from when I lived in Long Beach. It's not in that big of space, but it is a popular bar. It's also not around other gay bars as most are on Broadway. When you go in the bar, you KNOW it's a gay bar as it attracts primarily gay men (vs. gay men and women).

    I wouldn't be surprised if after drinking and getting drunk, one or more of the guys had a hard time being in a place where there were happy and good-looking gays having a good time, vs. being in the closet like some of them.

    Self-hate expressed in violence toward others is a horrible place to be. Those military guys belong in a jail for a long time. I really hope the Long Beach court throws the book at them and not only makes them pay for the victim's medical bills but also throws a hate crime charge. Being that Long Beach is pretty gay friendly, that will probably happen. Now that DADT is gone, I hope they pay big time in the military, too.

    Posted by: FunMe | Sep 5, 2012 11:01:57 AM


  24. "I wouldn't be surprised if after drinking and getting drunk, one or more of the guys had a hard time being in a place where there were happy and good-looking gays having a good time, vs. being in the closet like some of them."

    @FUNME So you are suggesting that these guys were, in fact, gay, in which case there was no "hate crime" involved, but simply an altercation between two gay men, which might have been brought on by any number of factors.

    You say that you KNOW it is a gay bar as soon as you walk in......OK, well, I find it hard to believe that 4 straight guys are going to decide to stay in a gay bar and just hang out, once they realize that it is a gay bar--99% of the time, they will just leave, right? Right.

    So again, something doesn't add up here.

    Posted by: Rick | Sep 5, 2012 11:10:00 AM


  25. Rick, there have been NUMEROUS incidents like this for years. In 2010 I remember vividly about three similar incidents, one in the Stonewall Inn in NYC. And in Atlanta where two MARINES went into a gay bar and committed a hate crime. Interestingly enough it was later said by several others the guys were knowingly trolling for sex on the DL.

    The men said that this was their first time ever in a gay bar, Rick. Also they supposedly looked "very uncomfortable" with their surroundings. Doesn't sound like gay men to me. I don't think a gay man will go into a bar and call other patrons gay slurs and beat an innocent patron for no reason. I think you have enough sense to know that wouldn't happen. And if these men are gay, then they're self-hating and DL about it, which doesn't at all change the circumstances of what occurred.

    Almost all the anti-gay hate crimes that have occurred by military personnel have been in the Marines. There is a reason the Marines were polled to be by far the least accepting of DADT repeal. The punishment these punks are gonna get should change some things.

    Posted by: Francis | Sep 5, 2012 11:12:14 AM


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