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More From The Vatican On Gay Marriage: 'Why Not Polyandry?'

PopebenThe Washington Post followed up with the Vatican about their panicked, quixotic crusade against marriage equality both here and abroad.

Here's what they came up with: the Vatican is sticking by that old-timey "Why not polygamy?" argument.

Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi, for his part, said gays can have their rights protected by means other than through legal marital recognition. He stressed that children should have a right to say they have a father and a mother.

“If not, then why not contemplate freely chosen polygamy, and naturally so as to not discriminate, polyandry?” he asked sarcastically. Polyandry is when a woman has two or more husbands.

“As a result, don’t expect the church to stop insisting that society recognizes a specific place for marriage between a man and woman,” he said.

Who would expect anything more?

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  1. The difference between gay marriage and polygamy is obvious. Gay marriage is about monogamy, polygamy is about polygamy. There you go - nice and simple.

    Posted by: jason | Nov 10, 2012 5:36:49 PM


  2. As a Catholic I have to denounce the Pope and those fellow Catholics who are standing in the way of the spiritual growth of my gay brothers and sisters in Christ. Equality is not about certain rights for certain folks. Equality is about recognizing that Jesus loves us all the same. Marriage is a sacrament we're all worthy of. May the Grace of God be with us all.

    Posted by: Rafael | Nov 10, 2012 5:46:57 PM


  3. Let me fix that for him...

    "He stressed that children should have a right to say they have parents who aren't hateful religious bigots."

    There. Much better.

    Posted by: Jeff M. | Nov 10, 2012 5:53:22 PM


  4. Even by their own admission the Catholic church is "in crisis" with falling numbers worldwide. They will always be around but their influence is dropping dramatically. We need to speed up the process by totally ignoring them and not reporting any news associated with them. WE are giving them power by giving them free publicity.

    Posted by: Icebloo | Nov 10, 2012 5:53:34 PM


  5. "When you rape children, cover it, rape them again, cover it up, rape them again, finally get caught, still cover it up, apologize, recant your apology, then blame the victim, you have zero moral authority to lecture others about their supposed sins." - John Aravosis at AMERICAblog

    Posted by: Mark Alexander | Nov 10, 2012 5:56:26 PM


  6. Why not Zoidberg?

    They're cute though, with their 'so as to not discriminate'. Because the RCC always care about the women!

    ::puke::

    Posted by: Tanoka | Nov 10, 2012 5:57:42 PM


  7. It is widely known that sexual realtionships are rampant among priests inside the Vatican--not monogamous relationships, but multi-partner relationships, including some underage children, both male and female--up to and including the highest levels of Catholic leadership hierarchy. Why does the international community allow this? Why does the Italian press not report on and denounce this?

    Posted by: Aghast | Nov 10, 2012 6:00:07 PM


  8. I do agree with the Pope that a child has the right to know his biological parents and to call them mother and father. There is no such thing as two mothers or two fathers. There is only one mother and one father.

    Posted by: jason | Nov 10, 2012 6:05:02 PM


  9. Ratzinger and his band of drag queens have no moral authority at all-period. (apologies to drag queens)

    Posted by: nick | Nov 10, 2012 6:06:44 PM


  10. If one thing leads to another, as this guy insists it does, then the Roman Catholic Church will soon require--under pain of sin and eternal damnation--all single parents to marry someone of the opposite sex so their children can have two parents.

    Posted by: trees | Nov 10, 2012 6:10:33 PM


  11. People need to understand that polygamy is NOT “sister wives” and “big love”. UT, AZ, TX and other states "turn a blind eye" to true polygamy where children (girls as young as 12) are married off to much older men and then live off of welfare, food stamps and Medicaid (known as "bleeding the beast")... as discussed in new book "plygs", a fact based journalistic view at the REAL world of polygamy ... Warren Jeffs, the leader of this group (serving a life sentence for child rape) has recently ordered that only 15 men in the group can procreate with ANY of the women of their choice within the group… it is a SAD, SICK way to live. this group in UT / AZ / TX are nothing but pedophiles and welfare cheats...
    BUT the law makers in those states will not let an ADULT, TAX PAYING, gay couple marry .... go figure....

    Posted by: Cabo Cara | Nov 10, 2012 6:28:13 PM


  12. Why not? Now that we have gay marriage, I'd expect all kinds of unnatural relationships: like marriage to God, or celebacy.

    I'm not getting the kids need a mom and a dad thing, though... Jesus had two dads and a surrogate mom and he turned out fine. Except for the criminal record, that is.

    Posted by: Steven | Nov 10, 2012 6:33:18 PM


  13. The state has no reason to tell its adult citizens who the can and can't marry. It can determine that only one partner is legally recognized and I'm fine with that. But if a person wants to personally recognize a thousand spouses and all 1001 people are okay with that then it's their business. My business partner (male) has a male partner of 30 years and for 15 of those they had a wife. They did it because they loved each other. They have 2 kids with the normal headaches and joys that come with being a parent.

    The pope's irrelevance is long past any possibility for resurection and the church hierarchy just can't deal with how impossibly arcane the are in a world where people can think for themselves.

    Posted by: stranded | Nov 10, 2012 7:22:07 PM


  14. He's got that one-armed salute down pat!

    Posted by: Marc C | Nov 10, 2012 7:23:05 PM


  15. Children need parents who will love and support them, both materially and emotionally. Doesn't matter whether the parents are biological or not, doesn't matter whether it's a single parent, or two (or more) men, or two (or more) women.

    Trying to force the father/mother paradigm results in a lot of people who either aren't capable or who aren't compatible doing a poor job of parenting, and they end up ignoring, or neglecting, or worse abusing children that they don't want and aren't prepared to care for.

    Two loving women (or men) taking care of a child are greatly preferable to an immature young woman and a disinterested young man trying to raise a child by themselves.

    Posted by: I'm Smarter Than The Pope | Nov 10, 2012 7:27:07 PM


  16. And the actual answer is that providing het/homo equivalence is a logical, moral, sensible, and in many places, legally guaranteed imperative. The issues that surround poly relationships are in the same area, but quite distinct, and there is no immediately obvious legal parallel to requre equivalence.

    Posted by: Tarc | Nov 10, 2012 7:27:35 PM


  17. The Church has nothing to say about it and has no authority to declare it is theirs. Marriage has always been owned by the people.

    The Church, like Republicans, need to accept the fact that they are no longer relevant in today's world.

    Posted by: OS2Guy | Nov 10, 2012 7:35:50 PM


  18. "Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi, for his part, said gays can have their rights protected by means other than through legal marital recognition."

    Oh yeah, you dumbass? Well, we've been down that road - spent thousands of dollars on legal consultation, documentation...just so all this work (that still can't match a marriage license that costs less than $100) can all be willfully ignored when they're needed.

    Posted by: Oz in OK | Nov 10, 2012 7:36:31 PM


  19. Being a Pope is UNNATURAL. Popes can't breed. If everyone was a Pope, humanity would die out in just one generation!

    Posted by: StarGem | Nov 10, 2012 7:37:22 PM


  20. Do they realize the man they worship was not raised by his father ?

    Posted by: PLAINTOM | Nov 10, 2012 7:41:57 PM


  21. His holiness Federico Lombardi should be allowed to marry his mother.

    Posted by: simon | Nov 10, 2012 7:50:07 PM


  22. @RAFAEL Jesus may not have existed. There is no "god.". This is the single biggest problem with the American government. We need to become more secular. The vatican is a joke and anyone who supports the vatican is, well, stupid. We live in a country that allows adults to teach CREATIONISM which is f'in frightening to me. The US is an embarrassment. We STILL have white men In this country who say that rape is the will of god. And still many a woman voted for Mittney.

    Posted by: Ark | Nov 10, 2012 8:36:18 PM


  23. Papist Swine.

    Posted by: Dearcomrade | Nov 10, 2012 8:40:11 PM


  24. I think polyandry would make a lot of sense for gay men. A small circle of gay men committed to each other, living together, keeping sex within the group. Why not? I'd do it.

    Posted by: Seriously, no joking | Nov 10, 2012 8:55:24 PM


  25. I think as long as it does not involved the abuse of children the Church really should just shut up.

    Posted by: jaragon | Nov 10, 2012 8:56:19 PM


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