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'NY Times' On Waning Christian Right: They Lost Their Fight

ReligiousrightNew York Times reporter Laurie Goldstein today looks at how the religious right, once the predominant force in Amerian politics, has reached its end days:

Christian conservatives, for more than two decades a pivotal force in American politics, are grappling with Election Day results that repudiated their influence and suggested that the cultural tide — especially on gay issues — has shifted against them.

They are reeling not only from the loss of the presidency, but from what many of them see as a rejection of their agenda. They lost fights against same-sex marriage in all four states where it was on the ballot, and saw anti-abortion-rights Senate candidates defeated and two states vote to legalize marijuana for recreational use.

Not all of the religious right's warriors of course are prepared to go silently into the night. Bob Vander Plaats, the perennial election loser who led the fight against pro-equality Iowa Supreme Court justices, told the paper, "We’re not going away, we just need to recalibrate." That's going to be quite the transition.

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  1. It was absolutely clear and much discussed before the election that the fundamental issue was in which direction the United States wished to go.

    Those directions were debated and the positions taken by the candidates sought support on the basis of those choices. anti Roe -v- Wade; anti Affordable Care Act; anti DADT; govt interference in women's' health issues; Personhood Amendment; Traditional Marriage Amendment; Tax Cuts for the rich.
    On the other hand the choice was; continue with Health Care; acknowledge a woman's right to decide her own reproductive health issues and support them through Health Care; acknowledge equal rights for gays; increased taxation on the over 250,000 a year earners; reduce the deficit by increased taxation; continue with current jobs growth.
    The Bible Thumpers and Creationists and End of Dayers and Birthers and Personhoodists and "Every Sperm Is Sacred"-ists have all been consigned to the dustbin of historical bigotry.....and quite a big dustbin it is.
    And the voter disenfranchisers have lost......but the Dream act supporters have won.

    It's game over for the extremists and the intolerant angry white men.
    The direction the United States has chosen is progress, increased values and recognition that everyone has a right to make the most they can of their talents and lives, not just the rich and the wealthy born.
    And no one should be so rich and arrogant to hold down a boy and cut his hair or call him 'faggot' to please his onlooker peers. Oh how Romney has not changed since those High School days........and that arrogant character with its 47% snide remarks has re-emerged to haunt him.
    Yes, Karma is a bit*h.

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Nov 10, 2012 10:02:23 AM


  2. "That's going to be quite the transition."
    Amen. All they really need to do is follow the protestor's sign and study the Bible. Bible thumpers actually know very little about the Bible except for the proof texts they hear repeatedly from the pulpit.

    Posted by: Diogenes Arktos | Nov 10, 2012 10:02:34 AM


  3. When will Bobby vander Plop find a real job?

    Posted by: gregory brown | Nov 10, 2012 10:07:05 AM


  4. You mean, Bob "Serial Gubernatorial Loser" Vander Plaats.

    Posted by: Mike | Nov 10, 2012 10:17:41 AM


  5. Well, to quote from Star Wars:

    "Great, kid! Don't get cocky!"

    The religious right has been weakened but is still a force to reckon with, even if increasingly on the state and local level more than the national. Yet even on the national stage they can have a rebound, however temporary.

    Posted by: JohnAGJ | Nov 10, 2012 10:32:41 AM


  6. I don't think it's so much that the cultural tide has turned *against* them, but that it has turned *toward* of equality and taking care of people. As one poster said here, they just need to follow the protestor's sign.

    Posted by: KC | Nov 10, 2012 10:36:57 AM


  7. When Christ said NOT to lie , 'religious' anti-gays proclaim that they are of 'christians' faith.

    When Christ said NOT to judge, anti-gay 'christians' argue back it's 'freedom of speech' and 'freedom of religion' and 'First amendment'.

    When Christ did NOT condemn homosexuality nor same sex marriage at all, anti-gay 'christians' protest that homosexuality is an 'abomination' to their 'god' and condemn it as 'sin'.

    When Christ gave the commandments to love God AND love thy neighbor as thyself as the GREATEST commandments of all biblical laws, anti-gay 'christians' strike back to voice their stand for other LOWER 'laws' or biblical verses to pretend to love God AND to hate others instead by voting and supporting laws like Amendment1, Prop8 and DOMA that discriminate at the greatest federal and state levels.

    When REAL Christians and gays speak up against the antigay 'christians' , the latter call it 'intolerant' among other hateful words and lies.

    Just 2 words for anti-gay 'christians' : ANTI CHRIST, and indeed those anti-gays need to turn to Jesus to recalibrate their sinful behaviour of lies and hatred.

    Posted by: Simon | Nov 10, 2012 10:54:20 AM


  8. People who claim that they wish and pray daily to see/witness "end times" yet stand in the way of all the thing that supposedly are harbingers show that they really don't believe what they say.

    Praying for Gods will to be done and when it is fight tooth and nail against it don't actually have the "courage of their conviction".

    Tickets to Rome are available daily and if living in a theocracy is the goal nobody is stopping them!

    Posted by: Mickey | Nov 10, 2012 11:13:53 AM


  9. Bachmann, Santorum, Hucklebery all failed presidential candidates speak volumes about the waning influence of the religious right even within the Republican party.

    Posted by: simon | Nov 10, 2012 11:23:10 AM


  10. I agree with John, in that we should never lower our guard or reduce our efforts to prevent a rollback on our rights. Even though Roe v. Wade has been on the books for over 40 years, the religious right is trying to kill it by a thousand little cuts. Even though African Americans have won the right to vote freely and unfettered, the religious right continues to try to enact laws which would suppress these hard-fought civil rights. We must be ever vigilante, ever visible, and continually educating the next generations on why we deserve full equality. The religious right will never go away, and never be powerless, and to assume otherwise would be foolish on our part.

    Posted by: Keith | Nov 10, 2012 11:25:51 AM


  11. Take heed, theists. This is only a taste of what the future brings for your kind, tyrants. We tire of your lies, your bloodshed, your manipulation. We will be your victims no longer! For justice, we fight! For justice, we will win!

    Posted by: Aulton | Nov 10, 2012 11:35:50 AM


  12. "We’re not going away, we just need to recalibrate."

    Extreme religious right speak for 'more heinous lies'.

    Posted by: jleo71 | Nov 10, 2012 11:40:59 AM


  13. KEITH. Here here. Thank you.

    Posted by: UFFDA | Nov 10, 2012 12:14:42 PM


  14. Republicans won the House with few surprises. This extends from their hold on many statehouses. This is largely a case of "blue" states moving more to the left and counteracting "red" states in national political power. Republicans put to much stock in holding the presidency, which is a limited office for making reforms of the type they are seeking. The issue for the religious right is that there is no path available to them to obtain their political objectives and they waste all their energies on social issues rather than basic economic ones.

    Posted by: anon | Nov 10, 2012 12:23:37 PM


  15. Simon you said it well. Thomas Jefferson really knew what he was talking about with the concept of separation of church and state. Jesus knew what he was talking about when he called the religious leaders a "group of vipers". Christianity was hijacked by Constantine to control the masses. And reforms have only done so much to restore the original intent. Which was to love God and love your neighbor.

    Posted by: Tom in long beach | Nov 10, 2012 12:36:45 PM


  16. This country was founded on religious liberty and the separation of church and state.

    Posted by: jaragon | Nov 10, 2012 9:09:25 PM


  17. I read these comments from so-called "pundits" and think to myself "you didn't pay attention in history class, did you..." I can't help thinking of a quote from (I think) Samuel Clements: "When you feed a starving dog and make him prosperous he will not bite you. This is the principle difference between dogs and man."

    Posted by: Mommie Dammit | Nov 11, 2012 9:35:23 PM


  18. A trapped animal is an angry one. I predict a rise in murders of homosexuals, celebrity allies, and assassinations of Democrats at all levels of government, including the oval office. And the perpetrators will be called the New Latter Day Saints, although most if not all of them will not be Mormons but regular aryan nation crazies inspired by the likes of Palin, Bachman, Brown, Perkins, Phelps, etc. Financing will come from proselytizing kill-the-gays investments in Africa.

    Posted by: Manny Espinola | Nov 12, 2012 1:39:44 AM


  19. Best part of this election: "angry white mean" are dying and they are pretty much the MINORITY!

    It's also a wake up call to not only the GOP but also the Democrat Party that we voted for the Dems, but we expect them to deliver!

    I think they will with our PRESSURE! Otherwise, if we sit back and think just voting and doing nothing, we'll get NOTHING.

    Posted by: FunMe | Nov 12, 2012 2:19:28 AM


  20. The elders of the Religious Right are beside themselves with anger that the youth are gay-friendly. Yes, some incarnation of the Religious Right which still is homophobic will continue, sadly.

    Posted by: Diogenes Arktos | Nov 12, 2012 8:33:28 AM


  21. Funny! The world is getting worse, people are more disturbed and angry than ever before, and the christian "right" is loosing. Makes Sense to me, No Jesus, No Peace. So when this world is one big planet of animal sex hungary prozac eating mindless sheep, I will be in heaven for eternity.

    Posted by: AntiMoron | Nov 14, 2012 10:39:29 AM


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