Obama Inauguration Pastor Gave Anti-Gay Sermon, and His Father Created the Chick-fil-A Logo

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Jeremy Hooper at Good as You dug up this tweet from August from Louie Giglio, the pastor giving the benediction at Obama's inauguration.

GiglioBut that's the least of the problems. Think Progress has unearthed a rabidly anti-gay sermon that Giglio, pastor of the Georgia-based Passion City Church, delivered in the mid-90's.

They write:

The 54-minute sermon, entitled “In Search of a Standard – Christian Response to Homosexuality,” advocates for dangerous “ex-gay” therapy for gay and lesbian people, references a biblical passage often interpreted to require gay people be executed, and impels Christians to “firmly respond to the aggressive agenda” and prevent the “homosexual lifestyle” from becoming accepted in society.

These are among the gems:

Gay people are going to Hell:

(47:40) First Corinthians, Chapter 6. In verses nine and 10, it talks about the things that prevent people from entering the Kingdom of God. It talks about all kinds of immoral behavior. And right in the midst of that passage, right in the middle of that verse it says “and those who are homosexual.” It’s clear.

Gay people can become straight through Christianity:

(40:25) As the church of Jesus Christ, we cannot sit on the sidelines, we cannot sit back inside our churches, but we must reach out and we must aggressively move toward the homosexual community because we have a message and we’ve got something to say… our message is we know Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ is powerful enough to do anything and to do everything. And the only way out of a homosexual lifestyle, the only way out of a relationship that has been engrained over years of time, is through the healing power of Jesus.
(43:16) We’ve got to say the homosexuals, the same thing that I say to you and that you would say to me… it’s not easy to change, but it is possible to change.

You can read more, and listen to the full sermon at Think Progress.

Comments

  1. Derrick from Philly says

    Oh, God, here we go again–that Rick Warren sh.t again. Why couldn’t SlimJim have chosen a decent Imam to do the f.ckin’ benediction?

  2. says

    i’m seeing two sides:

    one side makes me feel like i want to puke.

    the other actually takes joy that a right-wing bigot is, for lack of a better word, going to have to be *forced* to give a country-wide blessing for the term of a President who is going to continue advancing LGBT Equality.

    am i thrilled with this choice? nope.

    but it’s like when Toronto’s embarrassing mayor got his B.S. called and he showed up to read the city’s proclamation in support of the LGBT Communities. Sure, he didn’t believe it. But he still had to say it.

    Schadenfreude?

  3. Caliban says

    Oh for f*cks sake! It’s the Rick Warren thing all over again. Surely it can’t be THAT hard to find a preacher who isn’t an anti-gay sh*t-weasel!

    Is his staff incapable of doing background checks on these tools or is this yet another example of Obama trying to “reach across their aisle” to people who have done NOTHING but spit on him (and gays) since the day he took office? I’m getting really sick of this sh*t.

  4. KT says

    Caliban, I think you hit the nail on the head. I wish Obama would figure out those on the other side of the aisle will always hate him, not matter what. He could rescue a hundred puppies from a fire and they would find something to complain about. There are literally thousands of pro-gay clergy in this country. Pick one of them.

  5. Scott Rose says

    Nobody who believes that Christians are inherently superior to non-Christians should be delivering any sort of “sermon” at a US President’s inauguration.

  6. says

    you gotta love, too, that his bible includes the decidedly 20th-century term “Homosexual”

    that’s pretty darn funny.

    historical context, involving a knowledge of world languages, world religions, world history, and the evolution(s) of society make it pretty darn clear that the chapters in Corinthians are talking about pederasty, and the practices of both male prostitution in temples and and the act of soldiers raping male soldiers to make them “their women”

    but hey, that would require an education and it’s just way easier to pick up a locally-located “translated for idiots” bible and pretend it’s the infallible word of god.

    blech.

  7. Butch says

    I was disappointed that Think Progress didn’t ask for comment from the Obama administration.

  8. Bob says

    This is ridiculous without a current quote from the man
    What he said was pretty standard for the mid nineties. If he has stopped saying it and has come around he is a good choice to speak
    If he is still saying it Obama needs to dis invite him

  9. Gestly says

    This is no big deal; he will say a few innocuious things and then be forgotten. Or, he will say something homophobic and become a national shame. in either case, we win.

  10. jamal49 says

    Could we have expected anything less of our moderate, “let’s-find-common-ground”, bi-partisan President? Of all the wonderful, eloquent, spiritually-mature men and women who toil the Fields of Faith, Mr. Obama chooses this scoundrel.

    Well, just add this vile, evangelical reprobate to the list of bad choices (this is No. 3, the 1st being John Kerry for Secretary of State and the 2nd being Chuck Hagel for Secretary of Defense) that Mr. Obama has made at the start of his 2nd term.

    No, I am not optimistic for the next four years.

    Bad choice, Mr. President.

  11. Brian in Texas says

    This is nothing to get in a tizzy over. I’ll reserve judgement on the pastor until I hear what his CURRENT thoughts are as opposed to something he said from the 90s.

  12. Belthazar says

    While the ’90s sermon was as described (anti-gay), I would like like to know, as the article mentioned, “…whether this sermon represents Giglio’s current thinking [and actions].”

    And, for those that will say that it does not matter what his current thinking is, I offer up the Clintons and the admiration they receive from the LGBT community.

  13. Francis says

    The fact Obama shacks up with these rapid homophobes doesn’t speak highly of him. At all.

    Louie Giglio pings BIG TIME.

  14. shane says

    He tweeted this in August 2012! He was purposefully thumbing his nose at gays by pointing out his father’s logo. No mistaking it. Obama should certainly review his decision to invite this man to supper.

  15. Dearcomrade says

    Barney Frank could give the benediction and I would still be checking Facebook while he spewed the fairy tale verses.

    Also, telling an atheist (gay or not) they are going to hell is like a kid telling an adult there is no Santa Clause.

  16. Belthazar says

    There is nothing inherently bad about the logo. It is the person’s (or people) policies/positions that is the problem — not the logo. There are a number of companies (with TM logos) that have changed their policies, for the better, concerning gay rights while retaining the same TM.

  17. says

    comrade, you just have me a woody.

    it’s also like when some bigot throws “c*cksucker” at you as an insult. oh boo-hoo! he called me a name that describes my favourite activity!

  18. Derrick from Philly says

    Actually, my second choice to give the benediction would be a Muslim imam. My first choice would be, yes, the Great Reverend Jeremiah Wright.

    Those Tea Party f.ckers would be shattin’ over America. (thanks for the word “shat”, Kiwi. It’s much more dignified than poopoo).

  19. Rick says

    “The fact Obama shacks up with these rapid homophobes doesn’t speak highly of him. At all.”

    When are you folks ever going to understand that whatever support Obama has given to gays has been motivated entirely by political self-interest rather than by his own convictions?

    He does the minimum he has to to keep gay votes–and especially gay money–on his side….and now that he is freed of the need for either, given that he cannot run for elective office again, you are seeing his true colors (“No” to an executive order banning discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, etc.)

    His heart simply is not with gay people and never really has been.

  20. Caliban says

    @Belthazar, no, logos aren’t inherently ideological (not usually anyway), but Chik-Fil-A was in the news as a defiantly anti-gay chain when Giglio proudly pointed out that his father created their logo.

    That certainly implies his views are in agreement with Chik-Fil-A’s.

  21. Derrick from Philly says

    “His heart simply is not with gay people and never really has been.”

    Rick, why are you suddenly speaking about yourself in the third person.

    They’d better take you back to your room now. You’ve spent enough time on the computers at Bellevue’s Library.

  22. Belthazar says

    @Caliban: I understand your position and the implication of the “timing” of his tweet, which is why I will follow TP for an answer to their question as to his current thinking (before receiving invitation).

  23. Francis says

    Yes. OK. Let’s wait to see what this closet case says. Because I’m expecting it will be likely very anti-gay, and then what? Obama will be pressured to let him go. What happens if the President doesn’t do it?

    At the very least, this wasn’t very well thought out.

  24. EchtKultig says

    Barney Frank could give the benediction and I would still be checking Facebook while he spewed the fairy tale verses.

    Also, telling an atheist (gay or not) they are going to hell is like a kid telling an adult there is no Santa Clause.

    Posted by: Dearcomrade | Jan 9, 2013 3:33:58 PM

    MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY! I doubt Obama is this “postmodern” but his choice almost has a sublime element of humor in it. Given he’s done 10X more for gay rights than any other president (if you count preventing Romney from being elected, 20X as much) I’m not bothered at all.

  25. Yupp says

    Obama probably doesn’t even know anything about the guy. Somebody else picked him. The President has more important stuff to focus on.

  26. stephen lucas says

    Obama is up to his old tricks again. He’s working us over like he’s done from day one. The man has no principles. His views are a movable object.

  27. Mary says

    Two things happened today that are unlikely to happen again – perhaps ever. One, a pro-gay president picked an anti-gay minister to speak at his inauguration (in the future everyone will have to at least give lip-service to gay equality or be considered beyond the pale), and two, Little Kiwi has seen two sides to an issue (and THIS won’t happen again because, well…….it’s Little Kiwi,….so we should be surprised enough that it happened even once!

    (just kidding, Ray. I enjoy your blog and Youtube videos.)

  28. Scott V says

    Om my GOD! Surely not?!?! This pastor gave an anti-gay sermon in the mid 90’s and his dad created the Chik-Fil-A? We should stone him now!!!

    C’mon gang. Let’s not forget what the world was like in the mid-90’s. Everybody and their brother were anti-gay in the mid 90’s. Look at how far we’ve come since that time. And the fact that the guy’s dad created a logo shouldn’t mean a darn thing.

    I feel the same way about this as I do when a Republican’s campaign manager is outed and people call for his ouster because he’s gay. That is wrong, because if the campaign manager is qualified, his sexuality should have no bearing on his professional qualifications.

    But if we want that to be true, we have to respect things the other way. This guys is a qualified member of the clergy. He’s hardly Fred Phelps. If we want society to support us, we need to be ready to let at least a little of the ‘sins of the past’ go, don’t we? Or am I crazy?

  29. Yupp says

    Why shouldn’t kiwi express seeing more than one side to an issue ? He’s on this blog as way more than one person.

  30. how would you like your crow cooked? says

    “This guys is a qualified member of the clergy. ”

    And what “qualifies” a cleric? A lack of rational thought? An ability to believe in magic? The ability to speak at length without saying anything sensible? The ability to fill the air with sound and fury meaning nothing? I guess the Pope wasn’t available on short notice, probably supported Romney anyway.

    As long as Obama makes him eat crow publicly, that will be fun to watch. Maybe chick fil A will put crow on its menu!

  31. Stefan says

    I don’t know if that is the same Rick above as in many of the other comment threads, but I’m surprised to be saying I agree with the comment. It would have been ridiculously easy to find someone who is a progressive Christian or just someone who is non-denominational but spiritual. You can’t please everyone with this choice, but you can at least avoid offending key support groups. Obama doesn’t view his faith and his newer political stance on homosexuality as compatible, clearly. I still give him credit for evolving on the issue of gay marriage and I think it’s important, but sometimes being great requires not continually straddling the fence and backtracking. It’s tiring.

  32. Stefan says

    Also: what’s with all the “Don’t you remember what the mid 1990s were like? Everyone was anti-gay” comments? Um, not everyone was anti-gay. I knew a ton of people who were decent human beings, from those who were vocal advocates to those who were quietly supportive to those who didn’t like homosexuality but still thought equality was important. Relatively few people were willing to stand up and talk about how their fellow human beings would be going to hell and were basically the worst kind of sinners. I think being a majorly inhuman hypocrite should disqualify you from standing up as a representative of Christ or any religion.

  33. says

    let’s remember for a moment the position Obama is in…. his win pissed off every redneck please-die-soon bigot in the country. all the folks who just couldn’t BELIEVE that a “Black Muslim won the election AGAIN!”

    (winkwink)

    these people are stupid beyond words. and they’re buying guns. they need to be placated.

    do i like this choice? no. not at all.

    but with the sorry state of the US, i’m not that surprised.

    the plebes need a bone. this will give them one to suck on.

    and like i said earlier – he’s a pastor with a history of anti-gay proclamations, and yet he’s gonna be forced to deliver the prayer blessing the administration that has done more for LGBT people than any other admin in american history.

    it’s kinda beautifully ironic, if you think about it.

  34. Yupp says

    Or….Obama just hates gays and this is his way of making right with God to make amends for the gay poet.

  35. Roger says

    News break honey, with people like him, they make life hell on earth for everybody. Christians like the haters are possessed by Satan and doing the work for Satan, hating and destroying people. They are the ones who make earth a living hell.

  36. Chevytexas says

    Yeah, that ‘homosexual’ from his fake Bible is certainly suspect enough even if it weren’ t veing spouted by Saul/Paul, surely the original fake and cery closeted preacher.

  37. tom says

    not that it helps but #1 bible interp is just that. and it is impossible to know what the verse really said…and #2 corintians is a letter from paul formerly saul(a roman soldier who killed christians with zeal,b/4 he became a christian) who wrote all of the letters compromising much of the new test to churches around their world…he repremands everybody viciously…now some say it is inspired…but if you know your bible you know these were letters to churches from him like any other letter written…he was not writing as a prophet ao anything else…more so the counsil of nicia decided what went in the bible after the conversion of the roman emperor charlemiene..it was all political..still is…they hope we are ignorant,most are which allows fortheperpetuation of the lies……

  38. Michael Bedwell says

    Obama could club a pregnant lesbian to death on the White House lawn with a baseball bat and Little Kiwi and Brian from TexASS would coo, “Well, at least he didn’t use a gun, and, therefore, was rubbing it in the face of the NRA. We should be thankful.” ENOUGH with such self-loathing excuse making. Most racists probably didn’t vote for him either, so when he invites a known racist to pray over him at his Inaugural, call me, and I’LL apologize.

  39. Bill says

    @Tom: While Paul wrote his letters for political reasons (the politics involved trying to unify a ragtag collection of Christian sects), it had nothing to do with the Council of Nicaea, and even less to do with Charlemagne.

    Paul wrote his letters around 110 C.E. The Council of Nicaea was convened by Constantine in 325 C.E. Charlemagne lived from 742 to 814. C.E. If Paul wrote those letters to influence the Council of Nicaea, much less Charlemagne, he would have had to have had supernatural abilities – precognition, making him a “prophet”.

  40. Randy says

    So Obama’s going to show his true colors in his second term, right?

    How’s that working out?

  41. Bill says

    @Derrick: in the same spirit, I’d like to propose as a first choice a Rolls Royce guru – someone like Acharya Rajneesh (now deceased) who was noted for his collection of Rolls Royces and preachings about sex (he liked it). Think of it as outreach to the Republicans (the “do as I say, not as I do” ones).

    We’ll gloss over the criminal acts that got Rajneesh deported.

  42. andrew says

    Belief that the bible is anything other than the creation of primitive man is just plain stupid. The bible along with the Koran, the Book of Mormon etc are the enemies of human progress. Some day when humanity grows up it will be free of these silly but often dangerous MYTHS !!!

  43. Skeptical Cicada says

    Funny how Chuck Hagel had to apologize for his 1998 comment–which was WAAAAAAAAAAY less offensive than this raving bigot’s screed.

    I’m so sick of the damn Obamabots who run around on a constant apology tour for this kind of garbage.

  44. Bill Perdue says

    Little Kiwi was one of the most rabid Obama cultists before the election. His efforts helped enable Obama’s ongoing bigtotry.

    This is not an isolated incident. Another bigot heading up a rally or Inaugural for Obama is nothing new. It started in the summer of 2008 with a string of cultist revival meetings disguised as Obama rallies in the South featuring pig-bigot Donnie McClurkin and ended in the weeks before the election with Obama himself galvanizing the bigot vote to defeat marriage equality with ‘gawd’s in the mix’. The contriadiciton between Obama’s promises and his bigotry recreated the GLBT movement.

    The Democrats and Republicans are right wing parties that use the superstition and ignorance promoted by the cults to advance their right wing agenda. This incident is minor compared to the Democrats decades long refusal to pass ENDA or a CRA and their 18 year history of promoting discrimination by refusing to repeal Democrat bill Clinton’s DOMA.

    Democrats are Republicans in drag. Liberals are sellouts.

  45. Bill says

    Contrary to a claim by Bill Perdue, DOMA was not Bill Clinton’s idea – it was pushed by the Republicans in the hope of giving Bob Dole an advantage by turning same-sex marriage into a campaign issue. Clinton surprised them and supported DOMA. Given the attitudes at the time, there were enough votes to override a veto, so Clinton simply did the expedient thing and signed it. Basically, Clinton looked out for number one, but not out of malice towards gays – rather simply for self-preservation.

    http://prideagenda.blogspot.com/2008/03/our-two-cents-on-bill-clintons-doma.html has a discussion (and it is not complementary towards Clinton, but does point out that he was more gay friendly than any prior president). You might consider Clinton’s choice of self-preservation to be cowardly (others would call it prudent given that Dole would have been far worse for gay rights), but the Republicans were actively targeting gays for political gain. They are the ones who initiated DOMA.

  46. Bill Perdue says

    Clinton owns DOMA. DOMA, like NAFTA and the twin deregulation bills of 1999 and 2000 caused the current depression we all Republican ideas promoted, championed and cheerfully signed into law by two-bit political prostitute Bill Clinton. He was, far and away, the most successful Republican President on the second half of the last century just as Obama is most sucessful Republican president of this century.

    After he hurridly signed DOMA he ran these ads on redneck southern radio stations: “Protecting religious freedom. It’s the foundation of our nation. When the Justice Department went after a church to gather the parishioners’ tithing money, the government was stopped cold because President Clinton overturned the government’s policy and protected us. It’s not the only time he’s defended our values… President Clinton wants a complete ban on late term abortions except when the mother’s life is in danger or faces severe health risks, such as the inability to have another child. The President signed the Defense of Marriage Act, supports curfews and school uniforms to teach our children discipline. President Clinton has fought for our values and America is better for it. Paid for by Clinton/Gore 96″

    CBS News chief political consultant Marc Ambinder wrote: “One reason the Rick Warren thing is a big deal is because, after Bill Clinton, the gay community is unusually sensitive to getting the shorter angle of presidential triangulation. It is hard to overstate the optimism and excitement that gays and lesbians felt in 1992. But the optimism deflated spectacularly after “Don’t Ask, Don’t tell” and the Defense of Marriage Act, not to mention President Clinton’s sneaky 1996 ad boasting about DOMA, which aired only on Christian radio. Clinton was willing to say the word “gay” in public and appear in black tie at the Human Rights Campaign dinner, but, in the eyes of the gay political community, his commitment to gay rights vanished both times it counted most.” http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-4675355-503544.html

    Counting on Democrats like Clinton, Obama and the rest is like being in that cult that dances with rattlers. You never know when you’ll get bitten.

  47. Wayne says

    This bigot will not as the lead-in to this article says swear in the President. The swearing-in will be done by Chief Justice Roberts

  48. andrew says

    With warts and all, Mr Obama is indeed the best friend LGBT people have ever had in the White House !!!

  49. dcinsider says

    Typical Obama idiocy. Just like the first Inauguration, Barry feels like he needs the approval of people who hate him. Its so pathetic.

    I’m thrilled he was re-elected, because we had no choice, and I’m proud of him for his stance on marriage equality, but at the end of the day, this President is simply not really comfortable with gay people. He doesn’t hate us, but he doesn’t get us either. That tone deaf approach is why these mistakes happen repeatedly.

    There are about 1,000,000 pastors who could do this stint, but his folks chose a guy they KNEW was anti-gay. They didn’t choose him because he’s anti-gay, but that position did not disqualify him from the job. In the end, that’s the problem with Obama.

  50. robert says

    When Obama’s black Harvard pal Henry Louis Gates Jr. felt disrespected by the police, Obama stopped the business of the entire country to intervene yet he has no qualms about disrespecting every gay person in the country with his embrace of yet another homophobic preacher at his Inauguration.

  51. Onnyjay says

    Shame on Barak for including this nutjob in his second inaugural. He should have developed a better ear for outrageous babble by now.