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  1. says

    my heart beams!

    ugh, love this kid. this is our future, and DAMMIT it’s bright!

    in advance: any miserable rebuttals made anonymously only prove this shining young vanguard right.

    kiddo, you had betta WERK!

    😀

  2. Rick says

    “I intended to come out as an LGBT and not say bisexual or gay or straight because I feel like those are the labels of the past. Especially in modern times when people are really questioning who they like and what they like I think that saying ‘I’m bisexual’, it could change in the future, I could be sexclusively for one sex or another. So I think that putting it in a more general term like LGBT is extraordinarily appropriate even though I’m not a lesbian or a transgender.”

    His first sentence is contradicted by his subsequent sentences.

    What you are really aiming for, young man, is what I have been describing: a liberation of men from any kind of dependence on women–sexual, social, or emotional–and freedom to relate to another man in any way one chooses.

    You are right to point out that you are not an L or a T and never will be….implying, correctly that they do not belong in the category I just described.

    So the solution would be to discard the LGBT term, not embrace it……and replace it with a new term that represents male liberation…….

    If you and your generation do THAT, THEN you will be discarding the past and embracing the future…..which you are not doing by embracing the myth of “LGBT”

  3. Lars says

    I would so love to meet Rick’s mom. You know, the woman who expelled him from her vagina. The one without whom he wouldn’t be on this journey of liberation.

    If I could just talk to her…

  4. says

    let’s see: a brave young teenager goes on television to proudly align himself with the diverse makeup of the LGBT Communities.

    cowardly closeted grown-@ss men come online to anonymously complain about it.

    yes, it’s clear who’s still suffering from “issues”.

    :)

    the Ricks of the world long for a specific revolution that will never come. why won’t it ever come? because it’s something only cowardly adult closet cases want, yet don’t have the balls to Come Out, Visibly, and fight for.

    Out gay men don’t have the complaints and miseries the Rick-Gays have: that’s the dominion of the miserable man who is furious that everyone else got over their insecurities, came out, and left them behind.

    Not. Our. Problem.

    Jacob Rudolph, you don’t even know it yet, but you’ve saved lives.

    thanks, little brother.

  5. Derrick from Philly says

    “…the 5hit-storm that erupted on here the other day”

    Yes, AJ, I say that Mr Rudolf’s answer just cleaned up a lot of that doodoo from yesterday (sorry I participated in that “mud slide”).

    But some people always leave a little mess on the back of the toilet seat. And we know who that is.

  6. Rick says

    “I would so love to meet Rick’s mom. You know, the woman who expelled him from her vagina. The one without whom he wouldn’t be on this journey of liberation.

    If I could just talk to her…”

    Just out of curiosity, Lars, would you also love to meet Gloria Steinem’s dad? Or Bella Abzug’s dad? Or the garden-variety radical lesbian-feminist’s dad?

    You know, the men without whom they would never have been on their respective journeys of liberation?

  7. says

    how about you just post a video of yourself talking about this, Rick?

    i mean JasonRickYuppUFFDA..did i miss any?

    Rich F, we had a misunderstanding a few days ago. Troll here adopted “Rich” as another alias, my comments were in no way referring to you, brother.

  8. DAN says

    Rick, are you equating yourself to being a leader of some sort of “men’s liberation movement”? Please, on behalf of this man and men everywhere: DON’T do us any favors. We don’t need the help of a rambling blowhard. You just make us look bad. Dear, you need to work out the issues you have with women.

  9. AJ says

    I’m not even gonna weigh in on this. I was in a foul mood and extremely butt-hurt about work-related stuff the other day, hence my embarrassing tantrum. I NEVER get in internet comment fights.

    To Jacob Rudolph: Kudos, kid. Good on you. Stay brave. Continue being an inspiration at your young age. Inspire others to come out in public, no matter how they word it. 😉

  10. Lars says

    @Rick, you bet. Regrettably, I don’t believe that either Leo or Emanuel is still living.

    Just so I’m clear on the balance you are insinuating: do you identify as a ‘garden-variety radical gay-anti-feminist’? Has a certain deliciously delusional ring to it.

  11. says

    We all need to thank the openly gay reporters and celebrities who have forums for stepping forward like this and putting a face to people who do come out. Thomas Roberts, Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon, Ellen, are our greatest allies and do an enormous amount of good when they jump at the chance to bring gay people before the world. Oprah did the very same thing for African Americans every day on her show. For us, as the gay community, to have so many openly gay newspeople and celebrities to acknowledge young people like this (and older people too) it only helps the rest of this world to see us as real people who deserve respect and equality. Round of applause to Thomas Roberts for bringing Jacob Rudolph on his show and giving us a closer look at this fine young man. Berkeley would be crazy to pass up such a fine young actor.

  12. Rick says

    “Just so I’m clear on the balance you are insinuating: do you identify as a ‘garden-variety radical gay-anti-feminist’? Has a certain deliciously delusional ring to it”

    No, I identify as a man who recognizes that the artificial social, emotional, and even sexual dependence of men in Western societies is driven by a culture that, out of homophobic motives, has traditionally forced men to unnaturally keep their distance from each other……a man who recognizes that this dependence on and attachment to women has made most men profoundly unhappy and dissatisfied with their lives, regardless of sexual orientation.

    And that the solution to the problem is to tear down that old culture and re-construct a new one.

    Why on earth would that be threatening to you or any other man if you have a true male identity and if you really desire intimacy with another man or men (which is what being “gay” is supposed to be all about, isn’t it?)

    That is, unless “gay” to you instead means that you hate men, objectify men, desire no intimacy with other men, and instead idolize women and live vicariously through them and regard them, instead of men, as your “soulmates”–in which case I can well understand why my whole aproach would leave you cold.

    And if you are the latter, you no doubt lionize the “independent” (of men, of course), “empowered” (even though women can only achieve power through social manipulation of men), “liberated” woman…..at the same time that you are horrified by the idea of an independent, empowered, and liberated man.

  13. says

    and just so we’re clear, the only men who hold opinions like RICKs are completely, utterly CLOSETED.

    wow. so empowered!

    a closet man says something anonymously online! WOW! start the revolution!

    if he believed a word of it he’d be the most “OUT” of us all.

    alas, file it under “S**t Closes Cases Tell Themselves Rather Than Work On Overcoming Their Insecurities”

  14. Derrick from Philly says

    Yes, yes, Rick. We’ve heard it all before. Now the staff at Bellevue Hospital needs to take you back to your room. Computer time is over.

    And don’t try to fight the staff, Rick. You know you’re only as big as Don Knotts, and so it wouldn’t be wise.

    Come on now. That’s right. We won’t let the mean ol’ females hurt you with their big ol’ breasteses. Come along now.

  15. Matthew says

    RICK is exhibiting textbook misogyny. I never thought I would see such an on the nose case in the wild.

    Has anyone else seen that Chappelle sketch with the blind KKK member who was black?

  16. Matthew says

    Just so we’re clear, misogyny and the patriarchy are the root causes of homophobia. For a gay man to participate in these shenanigans is disheartening and disgusting.

  17. says

    behind every “effeminacy-hating” gay man is a family of bigots who resented calling him son.

    not that all gay men from bigoted families turn into RICKs. most, in fact, find a stirring resilience and defy it and break free from it.

    the weak ones turn into RICKs.

    it sucks. but they’ll die. so it’s ok.

  18. GregV says

    There do seem to be some contradictions in the vocabulary. First, he did say that he was only acting straight and that in reality he is somewhere in the categories of LGB or T. But in this interview, he says he is definitely not L or T but he could end up concluding that he is G or B or even S (straight). So he’s just acting straight but he may conclude that he is only into females at some point? Or by saying that he might end up finding he’s into one sex OR the other, is he assuming he’s going to start by wavering pretty close to the “B” label (like a lot of gay men do) only to eventually land squarely on the “G?”
    I don’t agree at all that those words belong to yesterday, and all those letters he’s using are just shorthand for saying those words out loud in full.

    I’ve never identified with the experience of people who are at any point confused or questioning, but I know it is a very common experience sming gay women and men.
    One guy I dated was convinced until he was 18 that ge was straight and that probably every guy prefers to turn out the lights and fantasize that his girlfriend or wife is a handsome man. I can easily say “but your own understanding of your identity should have been so obvious.” But I also realize that there are strong pressure that slways push teens toward a more heterosexualized label, no matter what their identity.

    If he actually knows underneath where he lies on the spectrum ( probably a G, less likely a B, and almost surely not an S), then I can also understand why coming across as “somewhere” on the spectrum may be easier than identifying specifically.
    I used to find it easier to say “I’m not heterosexual” and “I don’t date women” than to say what I am or whom I DO date.

    A lot of the various “not straight” actonyms have a “Q” for “questioning,” and it sounds like that’s where he is right now.

    Good for him, though, for articulating at a young age what it is to BE a questioning teen.

  19. Paul says

    He lost me with that “I may be bisexual now but that could change” crap. Really? I think for most of us it doesn’t change. Thanks for giving the enemy more ammunition.

  20. says

    Paul – i was sexually active with females as a teen, despite my entirely being attracted to males.

    why or how? simple – adolescent hormones. everything turned me on – sex was sexy.

    i can totally see how an adolescent may not yet be sure how much is orientation and how much is merely just Perpetual Boner Syndrome.

    (long bus rides, anyone?)

  21. Caliban says

    It’s really bizarre that MSNBC made that “LGBTT” error when it was was clearly “LGBT Teen,” even going so far to come up with a graphic for it with the extra T defined as “transvestite.” WHAT?! Lol. Big fail.

    I don’t think what he said is particularly unclear. He was speaking both for himself AND others out there who might not have that opportunity. According to another article I read he himself has not settled whether he is gay or bi. Teens at that age really are often “questioning,” not just whether they are ANY of the various labels but which of them apply.

  22. calvin2010 says

    It’s difficult to decide which one is the the worst “coming out,” this or Jodie Foster’s.
    He didn’t really came out.
    He thinks he could change in the future!?
    If this is the future of the LGBT movement than we are screwed.

  23. says

    he totally Came Out, “Calvin” – with the support of his wonderful father.

    if you think you can do a better job feel free to post the video where you sit with your father and talk about being gay.

    will you? of course not. it’s much easier to criticize others than do the work yourself, right?

    chump.

  24. calvin2010 says

    “little kiwi,” I’m not criticizing him. He’s just a kid. That said, when I hear someone saying that “people can change” I get upset, no matter who says it.

  25. jason says

    I feel that Jacob may be an attention whore. In any case, you cannot be an LGBT any more than you can be an ABCD or a KROQ. It is fantasy land stuff.

    I would say to Jacob the following: you’re a man first. Be a man and stop talking as if you’re a brand.

  26. George McCasland says

    How do we know he is Gay. He may just be saying that because he is one of the other RECOGNIZED sexual orientations by the American Psychological Association that is NOT YET considered acceptable to society. If he got up there and came out that he was GSA, or Paedosexual, would be also been applauded? Limiting this discussion to just the current accepted orientations is still showing bias for those who feel they are different and are afraid to come out of the closet.

  27. Derrick from Philly says

    @MATEOM

    LOL…thanks, I needed that.

    This evening Jason appeared on this blog about 4 minutes ago, and in that span he has made 4 silly comments.

    I guess when they take Rick back to his room in the psychiatric ward they let Jason out.

  28. jason says

    Coalition politics will kill off the gay rights movement faster than the Religious Right. We G’s need to separate our struggles from the L’s andT’s. The two latter groups are attempting to equate themselves with us. They don’t deserve it.

    We need to realize this before it’s too late.

  29. DAN says

    @DERRICK: Rick is Jason (and YUPP/UFFDA/STEVE). They spew the exact same crap. Attention whore Jason? Those who live in glass asylums shouldn’t throw straight jackets.

  30. MateoM says

    We need to realize that Jason/Rick is just a troll and whatever he says is either a lie or an intentional bomb thrown to rile up the comments section.

    We should just ignore him and hope that he goes away. Or dies. Whichever comes first.

  31. Benjamin says

    I appreciate that he has given some thought to this, but he is dead wrong. There is nothing wrong with LGB, because L,G and B are all defined by same-sex orientation. But T is conceptually different. Ts can have any sexual orientation, are not defined by sexual orientation, and most are straight. It is an insult to both Ts and LGBs to lump the 2 groups together. He doesn’t intend this, but he really misinformed his classmates what it means to be gay or LGB. It does NOT mean that he is conflicted as a male or that he wants to be a female or that he dresses as a female or that he was born with the genitalia of both male and female. That is what T means, and it is a completely distinct concept from LGB.

    I don’t blame a 17 year old for trying to do the right thing, but he is simply wrong about this. LGBT is a lie. It didn’t even exist prior to the mid-90s. It was made up for political and ideological reasons and imposed on us. It does NOT describe reality.

  32. mellowman says

    im 2 yrs older than this guy. i never call myself lgbt or any of the alphabet soup crap it is bullsh-t i have maybe 30 gay friends and no one calls themself lgbt this kid can do what he wants but he doesnt speak for everyone dont let anyone define u. dont let anyone force u to call urself smthing u are not.

  33. vita-t says

    I applaud him and thank him for his speech. My only slight critique (and I realize he is young so I give him a pass) is that for men, you are either gay or not. Women can be bisexual because they are fluid in their sexuality. 99.99% of men are either gay or straight. Any guy I have met who says he is bi basically has had one encounter with a woman and then a lot of men after that. It’s a cop-out for them admitting they are full-on gay.

  34. jamal49 says

    Somehow, I get the feeling that Rick saw “Queen of Outer Space” and “Attack of the 50-Foot Woman” on a double-bill at his local drive-in theatre and has been traumatized ever since.

    Unless you were delivered by the stork, Rick, sweetie, I’d say you owe women a lot. Especially if your mommy raised you, fed you, clothed you, wiped the snot from your nose, changed your dirty diapers, wiped your butt, taught you how to aim for the toilet and lift the lid—you know, that’s IT! Rick has never gotten over that mommy told him he has to lower the toilet seat when he’s done with his tinkle-time and he has resented it ever since.

    Now I understand the poor little sissy boy mess of a muck-up that is Rick.

  35. Justin says

    To me, being gay is about loving men and everything that makes men men. It would be absurd for me to refer to myself as an “LGBT.” For one thing, it is a silly PC acronym that no one outside the gay community even understands. Secondly, I am a male who loves men, not a lesbian, a tranny, or a bisexual. In fact, I believe that lesbianism and transgender orientation have quite a different basis than male homosexuality. I am happy to make common cause with other sexual minorities for political purposes, but that hardly means that I identify as them. “Gay man” will do just fine for me, thank you.

  36. Rick says

    “Just so we’re clear, misogyny and the patriarchy are the root causes of homophobia. For a gay man to participate in these shenanigans is disheartening and disgusting”

    No, they are not, and if you would clear your head of all the BS that the feminists whose skirts you have wrapped yourself in have indoctrinated you with, you might be able to see the actual truth.

    The “straight” men that you implicitly accuse of “misogyny” and homophobia spend most of their lives in pursuit of “romantic love” with women (and only women) and are programmed to regard women (and only women) as potential soulmates. Does that constitute “misogyny” (i.e. hatred of women)? Of course not. How can you pursue emotional intimacy and love with someone you hate?

    By sharp contrast, of course, “straight” men have showed only contempt for men who engage in sex with each other and particularly those who would seek emotional intimacy with each other.

    The contrast between their historical attitudes towards women and gay men could not be starker.

    So your absurd attempt to analogize between women and gay men holds no water.

    The only reason you have bought into such an ideology is that you, yourself, and others like you, have internalized the societal notion that to be attracted sexually to other men is to be devoid of any claim to masculinity…..which in your mind has become twisted into the notion that you are “like a woman” and should therefore think of yourself as being “like a woman” and behave “like a woman”.

    You are not liberated, my friend–you are just the opposite of liberated–so I suggest that you re-think your whole ideology, the first step of which is necessarily going to be ridding yourself of your internalized homophobia and learning to think of yourself as a man rather than as a pseudo-woman.

    Do that and I promise that, with an open mind and a little effort, enlightenment will follow.

  37. Rick says

    And let me just add to that that the historical anymosity of “straight” men towards homosexuality and intimacy would have made the kind of re-constructed male culture an impossibility even 20 years ago, much less 40 years ago.

    And that it is perhaps understandable that, given the absolute nature of that anymosity in the past, “gay” men simply threw up their hands in futility and allowed themselves to be the pawns of feminists, who at least were willing to talk to them and kinda, sorta treat them like actual human beings–even if their motivation for doing so was entirely selfish.

    But what you all need to understand is the degree to which “straight” men are changing–it is precisely their quest for independence from women that is driving their greater openness to intimacy with each other–which in turn is driving the eradication of homoophobia and the change in attitudes towards male homosexuality that we are observing.

    So we have a golden opportunity to take advantage of that change and be accepted, but ONLY IF we are willing to discard our own baggage and envision a new paradigm that will replace the old. If you insist on keeping yourselves mired in the past, you will only have yourselves to blame if homophobia persists.

  38. David Jarrett says

    Wow. It is great to have someone with both brains and good looks like Jacob on our side. I have to applaud what he has done. It takes guts and smarts to do that. Thanks Jacob! You are really helping lot of young gays, and many much older ones, to come out of the closet and to be themselves as a gay person. By the way, all of this really stupid nit-picking by posters on his wording LGBT or gay or this or that is silly. While I personally call myself gay, so what if someone calls themselves queer or bi or whatever? The IMPORTANT thing is to announce yourself!! While I use my FULL real name, David Jarrett, on these postings, most use fake names. so who is really in the closet? Huh?

  39. ratbastard says

    Will somebody PLEASE put a sock [or something else] in Lil’ Phuk-face’s mouth? Please? With sugar on top?

    Lil’ Weanie,

    I’d STRONGLY suggest you check the meds you’re taking and alter the dosage…or try laying off the cocaine for a while.

  40. Jack Duffy says

    I really like this kid, but this clip was a double fail. First, MSNBC creates a new term, LGBTT with the second T meaning transvestite? Great, we just spent 40 years teaching the world that being gay does not mean that you are a transvestite and MSNBC eradicates that in a minute. Jacob doesn’t correct him. Second, Jacob says that he used LGBT because he might be bisexual but that later he might commit to loving one sex or the other. Um, Jacob in that case you would still be bisexual. A bisexual who dates only men is still bisexual. A bisexual who dates only women is still bisexual. Jacob inadvertently promoted the argument of the Christian Right that you can change your sexual orientation by simply changing your behavior.

    What a mess. He should have just come out as gay or bi and left it at that. LGBT is really a toxic concept filled with prejudiced stereotypes, false associations and political agendas. The sooner it dies the better off all of us will be.

  41. DAN says

    Will somebody PLEASE put a sock [or something else] in RATBASTARD’s and Rick’s mouth? Please? With sugar on top?

    Ratbastard, you ain’t no prize yourself. OK?

  42. DAN says

    “It is great to have someone with both brains and good looks like Jacob on our side.” Why are his looks so important? Are plain looking and ugly gays not part of the team?

  43. Matthew says

    RICK – You could really use a refresher on your philo 100 and psych 101 courses.

    OF COURSE, you can hate something that you also love. Have you ever heard of an abusive relationship? The entire history of the Western religion and literature is littered with examples of women’s subjugation, rape, and abuse at the hands of men. Islam, Judaism, and Christianity all find women fundamentally unclean. I hardly need to prove the existence of misogyny and the patriarchy–it is evident all around us, not least of all in your statements.

    The about of hate you express for women! It is difficult to countenance. I feel very sorry for any women in your life–especially your mother.

  44. GregV says

    “. Any guy I have met who says he is bi basically has had one encounter with a woman and then a lot of men after that. It’s a cop-out for them admitting they are full-on gay. ”

    @Vita-T: I’m sure we’ve all met gay people who somewhat erroneously label themselves as bi, but you’ve no doubt also met countless bi people who buy social acceptance by falsely self-labeling as heterosexual.

    The existence of the former type among some of the subgroup that self-labels as bi does NOT mean that others who call themselves “bi” are not being accurate. Not only are some men (a lor more than 1 in 1000) actually bi, but also you will never know how many (so-called) “straight” bi people you know.

    There is pressure on everyone in society to exaggerate their degree of heterosexuality, whether any degree of hererosexuality exists within them or not.

  45. GregV says

    “. Any guy I have met who says he is bi basically has had one encounter with a woman and then a lot of men after that. It’s a cop-out for them admitting they are full-on gay. ”

    @Vita-T: I’m sure we’ve all met gay people who somewhat erroneously label themselves as bi, but you’ve no doubt also met countless bi people who buy social acceptance by falsely self-labeling as heterosexual.

    The existence of the former type among some of the subgroup that self-labels as bi does NOT mean that others who call themselves “bi” are not being accurate. Not only are some men (a lor more than 1 in 1000) actually bi, but also you will never know how many (so-called) “straight” bi people you know.

    There is pressure on everyone in society to exaggerate their degree of heterosexuality, whether any degree of hererosexuality exists within them or not.

  46. Morty says

    “I feel like those are the labels of the past”

    I am only 3 years older than this guy and I could not disagree more.

    Sorry, but I had to go through so much crap and so much harassment to finally accept myself and come out as a gay man. Now I embrace my identity.

    It is truly horrible when LGBT people begin dismissing and insulting each other’s labels. Really, really sad.

  47. Nether says

    It’s sad to see the fruitcakes (commentators) whose little brains have been indoctrinated by imbecilism-inducing doses of feminism.
    Rick, your posts make perfect sense and I agree with them. Too bad these imbeciles don’t have the capacity to understand them so all they can do is produce irrelevant wailing sounds.

    PS. These imbeciles wouldn’t react if someone wrote s/he wants females to be independent from males, but to say you want males to be independent from females… OH DEAR LORD!!! HOW COULD YOU!!??

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