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Brother and Gay Partner Involved in Kansas City Hospital Arrest Discuss Incident: VIDEO

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Kansas City's KSHB interviewed both parties in the hospital room dispute that went viral this week after Roger Gorley was removed in handcuffs from his sick partner's bedside.

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Kc_mansellRoger says the dispute started after his partner Allen's brother Lee called 911 after not being able to reach him and had him taken to the hospital:

He said Lee shouldn't have called 911 without letting him know in the first place.

"Haul your husband into a hospital without even talking to me about it -- that's like overwriting us as a couple of who we are," Roger said. "That would be like me going over to his house and taking his wife and hauling her off to the hospital without talking to him."

Lee and Roger and up getting into an argument over Allen's medical care in the hospital room.

"I know the conversation got a little heated, and the nurse had come in the first time and said 'you two need to leave the room,' so we kind of quieted down for a minute," Lee recounted. "Roger wanted me to leave the room, and I told him 'well, no, you need to leave the room' and the nurses came in the second time and said 'you both need to leave the room.'"

A nurse called security officers when Roger refused to leave, the station says:

Cpt. Steve Young, a spokesperson for the Kansas City Police Department, said officers were called to Research Medical Center by the hospital security. When they arrived, Roger was already in handcuffs and bleeding. The KCPD officers wore gloves to transfer Roger into their cuffs as standard procedure.

Roger told 41 Action News he wasn't being disruptive -- and that security got violent.

"Hospital security came, and it started to hit me on my wrist" while he was holding onto Allen's bed, Roger said. "(They) hit me ... because I was holding on, and they kept hitting and kept hitting and kept hitting."

But Lee said this is all being blown out of proportion. He said he only wants what's best for his brother, and that it's not a gay rights issue.

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More background...
Differing Accounts Emerge in Story of Gay Man Arrested at Patient's Bedside at KC Hospital
Gay Man Arrested at Hospital for Refusing to Leave Sick Partner's Bedside: VIDEO

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  1. I knew this sounded like a family dispute. However, when life is at stake, please DO CALL 9-1-1 first. Trying to get ahold of a spouse and asking for permission might lead to death. Lee the brother seems to have done the reasonable thing. Roger seems to be over sensitive.

    Posted by: Sargon Bighorn | Apr 13, 2013 12:34:08 PM


  2. Drama!

    Posted by: gwyneth cornrow | Apr 13, 2013 12:37:04 PM


  3. sounds like we still don't have the whole story. But I agree--call 911 first then notify spouse after. Common sense.

    Posted by: DannyEastVillage | Apr 13, 2013 12:42:17 PM


  4. What I want to know is if that's an acceptable procedure for security to assault someone: HITTING him to let him let go of the bed, rather than have someone: I don't know a social worker or doctor try to talk to him. But I guess they don't have people like that at a hospital. Or any kind of patient care staff. Or ombudsman. Nope, not at a major metropolitan hospital.

    Posted by: Kathleen | Apr 13, 2013 12:43:45 PM


  5. Wrong about the brother being reasonable.
    The brother has had no contant with either of them since Dec. and direct quotes here"

    "Allen has specifically excluded his family from having any say over his medical decisions because they have not been understanding of the impact of his depression."
    "Allen’s family has not been supportive of his relationship with Roger."

    Amanda was taking care of Allen while Roger was at work at Tuesday, but when they returned home from a few errands, Allen’s brother Lee and sister Pat were waiting at the door with paramedics and police.
    Due to Allen’s sluggish state, the police determined he was a “danger to himself” and decided to take him to the hospital against his will. Rather than taking him to St. Luke’s Hospital in Lee’s Summit, the local hospital where his regular doctors are, they took him to the Research Medical Center in Kansas City, which he only goes to for his ECT. They ignored Amanda’s attempts to explain Allen’s medical needs and procedures.

    The brother called 911 after the husband left to work and even before visiting his brother after the fact.

    Posted by: Joe | Apr 13, 2013 12:44:46 PM


  6. While Roger may have become overwrought during the situation at the hospital the brother Lee should have stayed out of the situation. He stepped into a situation and then tried to take control of it and continued to escalate it. I am STILL going to take everything Lee says with a LARGE grain of salt being as this isn't the first time that he has stuck his nose in Roger and Alan's business. If Lee had been a true brother he would have called Roger and said "There is an issue here at home with Allen could you please come home" and then waited for Roger to get home and a decision be made before paramedics were called in. If anything Lee's narrative is destroyed by the fact that Allen, when allowed to, asked for Lee to leave AND while in the hospital initially asked for ONLY Roger to stay. While, yes, this (at it's core) is a family dispute that got out of hand, it wouldn't have gotten to the point it did if Lee had kept his nose out of Roger's and Allen's business. Lee exacerbated the situation both at the house and at the hospital forcing the situation. On top of that RMC, by asking for proof of relationship (knowing it was in the file) only pushed matters further. Lee should have been told to leave the premises, NOT Roger.

    Posted by: Robert Martin | Apr 13, 2013 12:47:29 PM


  7. @Sargon Bighorn, If you read Amanda's account of what happened prior to Lee showing up you would understand that there WAS no 911 situation. Things were under control. Lee took it upon himself to escalate the situation with Roger at work. Allen's life was, at no time prior to the incident in danger. Lee exacerbated the situation by creating an emergency that continued to escalate at the hospital. Those are the facts.

    Posted by: Robert Martin | Apr 13, 2013 12:51:08 PM


  8. I agree with the call 911 first, inform spouse next idea, but once your brother is in the hospital under care, with his spouse, your input should be helpful but not intrusive. You are not in charge, and have no rights. You brother or sister or child is married and or has assigned medical power of attorney to someone else and you have no right to argue or be belligerent. If a nurse asks you as a brother to leave, you need to leave. Simple simon. No argument. The right and responsibility to care for or direct care for your brother has passed to someone else. Go to the chapel and have a prayer, go to the cafeteria and have some coffee, but leave when instructed to.

    Posted by: jeff | Apr 13, 2013 12:56:10 PM


  9. The hospital should have asked Lee to leave, unless they perceived the Roger to be more belligerent. At some point, safety overrides everything. But I see this as being the fault of Lee. He's the brother, not the partner. The hospital has recognized domestic partnerships for years. Sorry, but my brother will not be making decisions for me either. It will be my attorney in fact through a POA. Get out of the way, Lee.

    Posted by: dattexas | Apr 13, 2013 12:59:48 PM


  10. Here is the kicker, the 911 call was not required the situation was under control. The brother fabricated the emergency. During the hospital visit the brother was not asked to leave.
    "The nurse informed Roger that because of his agitated state, he needed to leave. When he explained that he intended to stay with his husband, she replied, “I know who you two are. You need to leave.” Refusing to acknowledge their legal relationship, she called the police to have Roger forcibly removed."

    After the incident the brother was forced to leave by request from the patient to the nurse. Prior to that the patient requested that his husband stay, and the husband requested to the nurse to pull up the POA which is confirmed it was on file from previous visits.

    Posted by: Joe | Apr 13, 2013 1:03:26 PM


  11. I just put "reviews research medical center" into Google and within two minutes found two instances of hospital security assaulting patients without cause. It looks like a pattern there.

    Posted by: nick | Apr 13, 2013 1:13:13 PM


  12. So they're both drama queens. I've had strangers call 911 for me and not tell my partner first. They even took care of my dog. Why is this a story?

    Posted by: Paul R | Apr 13, 2013 1:14:11 PM


  13. After viewing Lee Mansell, I think that the police should investigate him for meth use, and further investigate the angle that he was trying to get control of his brother's finanances. That is looking more and more plausible as this unfolds.

    Posted by: Jack. | Apr 13, 2013 1:25:46 PM


  14. First - You always call 911. You never take chances with someone's life. Whether you love them or not. Whether you agree with their lifestyle or not.

    Second, Lee seems quite contradictory. Even though he did the right thing in calling 911, he does seem a bit on the defensive in regards to his brother's life partner. There seems to be a family background of hatred and the refusal to acknowledge the full extent of the relationship.

    And third, in an environment where gay issues are divided between extremes, resulting more and more in extreme retaliation, the hospital security overdid it. The first officers on the premises forgot to get proper information BECAUSE of the political present environment: Sometimes, the supposed assailants are actually the victims of ugly phobias, where those in position of power abuse their rights and make a situation worst for everyone.

    Personally, I'm still reeling when stories come out about hospital staff not allowing same-sex partners to be there for each other, whether in cases of injury or final moments before death: Are we positive those committing such inhumane acts of unkindness should be allowed working in HOSPITALS??

    Posted by: Maguitac | Apr 13, 2013 1:27:48 PM


  15. The public needs to know the name of the nurse so that she can be investigated for membership in any anti-gay hate groups or other churches, and so that her background can be investigated for evidence of prior incidents or previously expressed anti-gay animus.

    Why hasn't the nurse been named yet?

    Posted by: Ratchet | Apr 13, 2013 1:28:03 PM


  16. Is it possible that Lee Mansell used to sexually abuse his younger brother and therefore feels jealous that his brother has found happiness with an older father-figure type man? Definitely a possibility to consider.

    Posted by: Consider the possibilities. | Apr 13, 2013 1:30:33 PM


  17. Is it possible that the Mansell brothers were sexually abused by an authority figure who dressed up like a nurse?? This would definitely explain why brother Lee was so resistant to obeying the commands of the hospital nurse.

    As long as we are considering all possibilities, we really ought not leave any stone unturned. What is Lee hiding about nurses in his past?? Why is he not giving us direct answers?? Inquiring minds want to know.

    Posted by: Consider another possibility | Apr 13, 2013 2:02:48 PM


  18. I see some serious reading comprehension issues.

    "Always call 911 first"??!!

    The man wasn't even home. He was out on errands with his stepdaughter, and he was fine. The brother didn't even see him, but took it upon himself to call 911 and have everyone waiting for his brother when they got home.

    There's no actual concern for his brother here. Other family members confirm it. And even if there were, the moment that Roger showed up, any input from Lee - including his presence - was legally required to end.

    If anything, BOTH Roger and Lee should have been escorted out until it was resolved. Leaving Lee there while forcibly removing Roger was inexcusable - and the hospital, the nurse, and Lee should all be sued into the Stone Age for this.

    Posted by: Lymis | Apr 13, 2013 2:10:06 PM


  19. Let me see if I have this right. Just because a brother has depression, 911 needs to be called every single time he doesn't pick up the phone?

    Seriously?

    Posted by: Seth C | Apr 13, 2013 3:14:59 PM


  20. The ONLY person who had a legal right to be in that room was Roger and the nurse had no legal right to tell him to leave no matter how "disruptive" she assumed he was being. This is his husband and he has a right to be angry. Period. No arguments.

    Posted by: RMc | Apr 13, 2013 3:18:30 PM


  21. How useful to know that the BIGOT thinks it's not a gay rights issue.

    Posted by: Skeptical Cicada | Apr 13, 2013 3:26:30 PM


  22. "This is not a gay rights issue". My Ass it isn't!

    Posted by: RWG | Apr 13, 2013 3:30:11 PM


  23. This is a CMS violation clearly. The hospital is in the weeds on this one BIG TIME. In fact, CMS is already investigating.

    Posted by: HirsuteHeuristics | Apr 13, 2013 3:35:19 PM


  24. When people on the "right" side of this issue -- denying the need for marriage equality -- actually say out loud that they don't see why we have to call it marriage, this is case #1. The nurse, despite the fact that she knew who Roger was and was aware of the POA, called security when the patient's husband would not leave the room, it demonstrated the need for full marriage equality. Can you image were Allen a woman that her husband would have been told the leave the room even if he had been arguing with his wife's brother? No way, no how. But because Roger and Allen are men, the nurse, hospital security, and ultimately the police just automatically assumed that Roger had no right to be in the room and removed him. Roger should sue the hospital, the nurse, the police, and Lee. The hospital should lose its Federal funding, the nurse should lose her job, and the security and police who remanded Roger into custody should also. They all saw an opportunity to discriminate against a gay couple without recourse.

    The fact that this couple had done everything right: the POA, being known to their healthcare providers, repeatedly demonstrating their relationship meant nothing when at its most critical moment. No one would dream of asking a frantic husband for a copy of his marriage license when presenting his wife in an emergency situation (or any other, for that matter); why should a gay couple be forced to jump through the burdensome hurdles -- only to have them denied at the critical moment?

    Posted by: Jamie | Apr 13, 2013 3:55:52 PM


  25. This sister is made a intresting quote about Lee's reaction when the couple was planning to go on vacation.
    "Lee doesn’t care about Allen’s health. He was pissed that Roger was taking Allen on vacation. He made several very derogatory comments about Roger taking Allen on vacation that were distinctly homophobic. (along the limes of letting is brother get F* by 50 men on vacation)
    excuse my vulgarness in this quote.

    So the brother isn't homophobic now?

    Posted by: Joe | Apr 13, 2013 4:13:54 PM


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