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Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR): I'm 'Undecided' on Marriage Equality But Do Believe Being Gay is Not a Choice

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Last night I posted a quote from an upcoming 5News interview with Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR), one of the remaining three senate Democrats who hadn't shown his hand on the issue of marriage equality.

Here's more from that interview on his position on marriage equality:

"I would put me down in the undecided category. I did talk with some friends of mine in the gay and lesbian community over the last week or so. We talked about this issue. We also talked about a question I received in the office not too long ago where they asked whether being gay was a choice or whether you were born that way.  I told them, I said, 'Honestly I’ve never really thought a lot about that.' Maybe a lot of people think about that. I haven’t spent a lot of time thinking about that. But one of the things I hear from them is they feel very strongly that it’s not a choice for them, and I respect that. I’m not going to dispute that. I appreciate that, and I appreciate their honesty.  For a lot of these people they just really open their heart to me and talked about some of the struggles they’ve had over the years with their sexual orientation. I respect that and appreciate their patience, and I appreciate their honesty."

On benefits for same-sex couples, Pryor added:

"This is one that is an evolving issue in Washington. I haven’t really analyzed this in terms of benefits and what that does for the federal budget…. I’m sure as the gay marriage decision goes to through the U.S. Supreme Court and all the ramifications for that over the next few months, we’ll spend some time on this."

There is a raw video of the interview online, but it currently has no sound.

Two other senate Dems, Tim Johnson (D-SD), and Joe Manchin (D-WV) are the last remaining to take a position.

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  1. Well, that's an improvement from previous statements.

    Posted by: Francis #1 | Apr 6, 2013 10:04:58 AM


  2. When discussing gay rights, why should it matter whether being gay is a choice?

    Let's say it becomes possible to change the colour of your skin and someone decides to become black. Should they be stripped of some rights as a citizen because of this decision?

    The reason why the black are entitled to the same rights as the white is not that they are poor things who can't help being black, and who would choose to be white if they only could. It's because they are human beings and because the colour of their skin harms noone. And it's the same with gays.

    Posted by: borut | Apr 6, 2013 10:12:38 AM


  3. When discussing gay rights, why should it matter whether being gay is a choice?

    Let's say it becomes possible to change the colour of your skin and someone decides to become black. Should they be stripped of some rights as a citizen because of this decision?

    The reason why the black are entitled to the same rights as the white is not that they are poor things who can't help being black, and who would choose to be white if they only could. It's because they are human beings and because the colour of their skin harms noone. And it's the same with gays.

    Posted by: borut | Apr 6, 2013 10:12:39 AM


  4. You can't balance the budget on the backs of a minority group. Moron.

    Posted by: Steve | Apr 6, 2013 10:15:06 AM


  5. Lost in all of this is the fact that being for gay marriage in deep red states is still a losing issue.
    The gun control debate and Obamacare is already putting several of these red state Dems in the crosshairs.
    To come out for gay marriage would certainly be the nail in the coffin.
    Wish it weren't so but it's just the way it is.

    Posted by: Kevin | Apr 6, 2013 10:46:48 AM


  6. "Blacks" and their "culture" are ruining this country...I hope all "Blacks" just kill each other...

    Posted by: tyler | Apr 6, 2013 10:59:50 AM


  7. I think he's kind of cute, and better a lousy democrat than any kind of Republican.

    A Senator from Arkansas was never going to make or break us.

    Posted by: Fahd | Apr 6, 2013 11:32:11 AM


  8. "I'm 'Undecided' on Marriage Equality But Do Believe Being Gay is Not a Choice"

    Mark, duh, night follows day.

    Posted by: jleo71 | Apr 6, 2013 11:43:11 AM


  9. Senator potato don't put the crayons in ur nose pls

    Posted by: MArk | Apr 6, 2013 12:25:45 PM


  10. Let's just be honest. Prior needs to get elected in a state full of rednecks and thumpers.

    Posted by: Rob | Apr 6, 2013 12:43:08 PM


  11. If Pryor, Landrieu etc from red-red-red states come out for marriage equality, they won't win re-election. For the purists who think they deserve to lose, how will you feel when the Republican take over the Senate, when the Republican Senate blocks Obama (or Hillary after 2016) from making a progressive Supreme Court appointment, and when our rights are not recognized by the Supreme Court? Are you going to say, "Well, that's OK because Pryor and Landrieu deserved to lose for not speaking up for our community?" Call it a civil rights issue, a moral issue, or whatever, but you can't close your eyes to political reality in these deep southern states.

    Posted by: MiddleoftheRoader | Apr 6, 2013 2:29:50 PM


  12. "I haven’t really analyzed this in terms of benefits and what that does for the federal budget…"

    What has that got to do with it? He doesn't care about the costs of granting benefits to millions of straight couples so why he suddenly cares when it comes to gay couples? It's a question of basic fairness, of treating all citizens equally, is that so hard to understand?

    Posted by: Peter M. | Apr 6, 2013 2:41:02 PM


  13. @MiddleoftheRoader you are absolutely right. I was born and raised in Arkansas and have long since left. There are some lovely liberal folks in that state who elected Bill Clinton to TWELVE years as governor, but the bible thumpers are in charge now and these guys have to be careful in order to get re elected.

    Posted by: Jerry | Apr 6, 2013 3:45:55 PM


  14. @MiddleoftheRoader you are absolutely right. I was born and raised in Arkansas and have long since left. There are some lovely liberal folks in that state who elected Bill Clinton to TWELVE years as governor, but the bible thumpers are in charge now and these guys have to be careful in order to get re elected.

    Posted by: Jerry | Apr 6, 2013 3:45:56 PM


  15. The guy is a MORON. He isn't smart enough to be a Senator. How is it acceptable for him simply to say he hasn't thought about an issue that effects millions of people ?

    He needs to be removed from office. How can he be doing his job properly when he admits he hasn't thought about half of the issues ?

    Only in America.....

    Posted by: Icebloo | Apr 6, 2013 4:28:07 PM


  16. So who is the gay guy in the picture?

    Posted by: Michael | Apr 6, 2013 4:50:56 PM


  17. As another poster said, he is a Democrat in a Republican state. Saying that he supports same-sex marriage would be a guaranteed way to lose any upcoming election.

    Posted by: MuscleModelBlog.com | Apr 6, 2013 7:10:45 PM


  18. Same-sex marriage is an injustice, a tyrannical ploy being perpetrated upon our society of which the pernicious consequences are simply mocked and laughed at by its supporters. Ignorance and prejudice have taken the place of knowledge and reason. Caprice and passion substituted for prudence and virtue. The happiness of society, the good of all families, and the welfare of mankind fall victim to unjust selfish love, calculating every thing for itself while taking no notice of a child's best interest or the public advantage of the government promoting ONLY the traditional family.

    In the eyes of a child, same-sex marriage appears adulterous by nature. Someone is not present in his/her home who is his/her true mother or father. No good can come from adultery. At best, a virtuous heterosexual man and woman can soften the evil sustained by children from adultery, but same-sex proponents want their adulterous families to be considered normal and "equal" to a monogamous heterosexual marriage.... which study after study has proven to be the best environment for childrearing. There is simply no virtue in ignorance, or in denying truth.

    Here are two truths regarding marriage: (1) Creating a family with another man is not equal to creating a family with a woman, and (2) denying children parents of both genders at home is an objective evil. Kids need and yearn for both.

    Same-sex marriage in unconformable to the state of a rational social being, it is defective in principle, and has ONLY a deceitful appearance to young and old because it denies Natural Law. All children eventually figure out that it takes a man and a woman to bring a new life into the world.

    At school, those kids who have two mothers or two fathers will be different, and the other children will notice that the same-sex family child is different in many ways. Besides the obvious exclusion of either a mother or a father at home, a same-sex marriage child is deprived of both gender role models at home and will undoubtedly act differently than other children of his/her gender and especially with regards to interacting with the opposite sex of his/her same-sex parents. It is without a doubt that these children will be seen as different by children who have a mother and a father at home, and especially if they have their biological parents at home.

    In order to protect the same-sex child from any perceived harassment, the child of a same-sex marriage will become a special protected class in the eyes of the government. School officials will have to punish and "educate" any child who "offends" the protected class child for simply thinking it is strange that the child of the same-sex marriage has either a mother or their father missing, or if any child perceives that the child of his/her gender coming from a same-sex marriage acts in an unusual manner to his/her own, and his/her contemporaries.

    This unjust punishment to well-rounded children is proof that same-sex families do not follow core principles of Natural Law, and because same-sex marriage defies Natural Law, pernicious consequences will inevitably happen. To punish a child for saying what he knows is true (all children have a mother and a father) is nothing less than a tyrannical oppression to children who instinctively rely upon Nature's Laws to help them understand life and life's circumstances. Children will be forced and coerced to accept or comply with unnatural behaviors and their instinctual knowledge of right and wrong will become internally challenged and confused. A confused child is more susceptible to evil and perversion than one who is sound in his knowledge of the facts of life. Evil-doers will have a hay day in a society that sees no inherent evil to children in same-sex marriage, but alas....those who support same-sex marriage have apparently fallen too far into the depravity of licentiousness themselves to realize or acknowledge the harm and injustice same-sex marriage imposes upon our society and our children.

    Marriage was instituted to protect the Natural Rights of children. Same-sex marriage tramples those rights in the name of "equality".

    Posted by: Jean-Jacques Burlamaqui | Apr 6, 2013 11:31:32 PM


  19. Huh? "On benefits for same-sex couples, Pryor added: This is one that is an evolving issue in Washington. I haven’t really analyzed this in terms of benefits and what that does for the federal budget…."

    Congressional Budget Office Report CBO Publication 15740, June 2004, The Potential Budgetary Impact of Recognizing Same-Sex Marriage: About $1 billion (B) is LOST EACH YEAR by banning gay marriage in all states. (a $17 billion dollar loss since DOMA)

    "I’m sure as the gay marriage decision goes to through the U.S. Supreme Court and all the ramifications for that over the next few months, we’ll spend some time on this."

    Next January the Affordable Care Act gives same-sex married couples who are not recognized by their state a federal tax subsidy that is denied for married heterosexual couples. The gay couples are treated as individuals - the straight couples must combine incomes and will be disqualified.

    And so it goes.

    Posted by: Leslie | Apr 7, 2013 11:53:15 AM


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