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  1. A-8 says

    This happened just down the street from XL. That stretch of 42nd street can be a little scary late at night. Considering there is a police station right next door to XL, hopefully this won’t happen again.

  2. You Jean says

    I’m sorry he got insulted, even sorrier he got hit, and very glad that he was lucky that things didn’t get worse. Yeah, he’s worth defending, but I’m not sure it would’ve been worth risking his life. And at 3AM, at 42nd/8th…I’m not sure I’d have taken that risk. Wondering if there was liquid courage involved here?

    Yeah, Eugene is worth defending, but not every insult is worth risking your life over. The more I think about it, the gladder I am that he’s alive. Be smart, y’all, we don’t need to lose anyone else.

    Obligatory objectifying comment: Eugene’s pretty cute, in a nerdy, geeky kind of way.

  3. ratbastard says

    The b*tchiness on here. Knowing some [SOME] gay men like I know them, I’m not surprised they occasionally encounter issues with others that sometimes results in violence. I know if Mr. Raymond Miller from Toronto said to my face what he says online about my mom and dad being raped and killed, he’d get snot beat out of him. And that wouldn’t be a ‘gay bashing’, although I bet he’d try to claim it was afterwards.

  4. says

    @Derrick – I suppose one could ask why the anonymous-gay-conservatives online never get outraged at the continued promotion of prejudice and bigotry from their own party, but hey, we both know why they can’t, and won’t. 😉

  5. ratbastard says

    @Raymond Miller,

    Why don’t you respond to those so-called ‘anonymous-gay-conservatives’ with troll posts about their mom and dad being raped and murdered? Oh, that’s right, you already do.

    Maybe Eugene need to sit down talk to his Friend Raymond from Toronto about bullying, hate speech and mean spiritness.

  6. Dex says

    I like this guy and think he handled this incident very well.

    Now he should stand against homophobia a second time and give a different name to his “Queer Rising” group. Gay people are not queer and it is absurd that he would be part of a group that has as part of its name the same derogatory language used by the people who attacked him.

  7. says

    Dex, as an occasional member of Queer Rising, and a self-identifying Queer man (as well as self-identifying gay man) I think what you need to understand is that those of us in the group SELF-identify as Queer.

    we’re not calling you Queer, we’re identifying ourselves that way.

    Yes. Gay people are not (all) queer, and not all queer people are gay.

    But many gay people, and many non-gay people, choose to self-identify as Queer. It’s not derogatory when you are empowered and self-identify with your being different from the pereived societal norm.

    Queer – from a different point of view. Different. Unique. Of a differing perspective and outlook.

    You may not like “our” self-identifying as Queer, but you’re also not a part of the group. You’re more than free to start your own direct-action activism/advocacy group and give them a name you prefer.

    But it’s incorrect of you to insist that the word is a derogatory slur when the folks who are members of this group are indeed self-identifying, and empowered by it.

    thanks 😀

  8. bructer says

    What does what he looks like or what time he was out have to do with the fact he was assaulted. We should be able to be out at what ever time we want and should be safe. The more people that get arrested for this type of crime maybe it will curtail the incidence of them. Glad he and his friend are safe it could have been a lot worse.

  9. ratbastard says

    @Mr. Lovendusky,

    If some gay men are capable of responding with defensive violence, they should be allowed to, and encouraged to. Gay men, and everybody else,should be legally allowed to respond to violence against them. They should be allowed to own and carry on themselves defensive weapons. Dialing 911 worked for you this time. 99.9% of people are in places where police aren’t going to respond ‘immediately’ [there’s a police station within spitting distance of where you were assaulted]. I understand disarming law abiding people is part of the ‘progressive’ narrative and talking points. It’s certainly something I and many others, gay and non-gay, do not agree with.

  10. ratbastard says

    @bructer,

    Reality is different from a desired utopia. Reality is I [for example] would be VERY careful if I had to be in certain locations, and would try my best to avoid certain locations and environments, for the sake of my safety. I certainly would like it if I felt free to go and do anything within the law, anywhere, at anytime, but realize this is unfortunately a utopic fantasy. Walking around certain locations like in areas where there’s bars and clubs, especially late night, early morning, closing time, etc., you have good odds you’re going to encounter some aholes who’re going to F with you, gay or not gay. Especially in a big city like NY.

    That’s all.

  11. Jerry says

    It is good advice to report these crimes no matter the extent. However that works in Gay Urban areas but doesn’t work that way in the hinterlands. Too often you are made to look foolish. Been there.

  12. Jerry says

    It is good advice to report these crimes no matter the extent. However that works in Gay Urban areas but doesn’t work that way in the hinterlands. Too often you are made to look foolish. Been there.

  13. Kev C says

    The effectiveness of reporting it to police is unreliable and often has undesirable consequences. Even in NYC, many police don’t care about gays and don’t think it’s a crime to bash them. They may go through the motions of taking a report, but don’t expect anything to happen in most cases of reporting.

  14. David Hearne says

    What does what he looks like or what time he was out have to do with the fact he was assaulted. We should be able to be out at what ever time we want and should be safe. …….
    Posted by: bructer

    Yours would be the “A woman has a right to walk naked through Africa without being raped.” argument. Reality disagrees.

  15. DannyEastVillage says

    From Little Kiwi: “Gay people are not (all) queer, and not all queer people are gay.”

    EXCELLENT point, brother – and nicely put.

  16. The Real Solution says

    What we need is a gay Jack Ruby. And since we now have a 24-hour news cycle, it’ll go out live nationwide. The sight of a gay-basher’s head exploding on national television will mean a lot fewer gay-bashers, will it not?

  17. Jeton Ademaj says

    no, TRS, we need to continue our overall political campaign for our rights, while also empowering ourselves physically. i have no problem with a queer person using deadly force against a violent attacker when one can’t know just how far the attacker intends to go…but stalking and assassination are so stupid and counterproductive to queer rights that I SHOULD NOT EVEN HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT.

    stop fantasizing, go get mental health care.

  18. Anila says

    Well hate crime and anti gay violence is all over the country and I just finished reading a book about it. White Girl
    Bleed a Lot: The return of racial violence to America. http://whitegirlbleedalot.com/.
    It’s about hate crimes, racial crimes, mob violence, violence against
    gays.. etc. It’s a collection of violence mostly have videos. You might
    not believe it but it’s really happening. So scary. I think there’s
    more than 50 cities.

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