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Disgruntled Former Boy Scout Leaders To Create New Anti-gay Youth Organization

ScoutsBoy Scout leaders unhappy with the group's decision last month to extend membership to openly gay youth have been steadily gathering supporters in the hopes of forming a new, antigay alternative. John Stemberger, an Eagle Scout and Florida lawyer, operates a web site,, that has become the gathering place for scout leaders and families disappointed and angry about BSA's new policy. The Dallas Morning News reports:

Gerry Cates, 62, an Abilene businessman and Eagle Scout, is among the many Texans who allowed Stemberger to use their names on his web site. He said he's willing to support the new group - assuming it gets off the ground - with a little money and personal networking.

"The whole thing makes me angry," Cates said. "I think the scout leadership caved to gay politics and ruined the whole deal." 

During conversations with Cates and other critics of BSA's liberalized membership policy, the same issue keeps coming up - How will scoutmasters handle tent arrangements on campouts?

"I've got a 7-year-old grandson in Cub Scouts," Cates said. "When he gets old enough for Boy Scouts, what do you do about a 16-year-old gay kid in camp?"

BSA leaders stress that policy forbids any sexual behavior - homosexual or heterosexual - during scout activities. Violators will be punished, they insist

BSA consultants have reported that BSA might lose 10-12 percent of its 2.6 million members because of unhappiness with the new policy on gay scouts. Nonetheless, BSA's top leaders publicly backed the policy change.

Hundreds of people across the nation have already signed up as supporters on Stemberger's website. While the new group is not yet organized, supporters will be meeting this week in Louisville, Ky to discuss name options and the steps necessary to launch the organization nationwide. Announced name choices for the new organization include American Heritage Boys, American Sons of Liberty, and Patriot Rangers, among others.    

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  1. I love how Cates doesn't even entertain the possibility that his now 7 year old grandson might BE the 16 year old gay kid in camp.

    Posted by: Jere | Jun 29, 2013 5:50:50 PM

  2. Perhaps their uniforms will have hoods!

    Posted by: Kenny C | Jun 29, 2013 5:51:49 PM

  3. @Kenny C I was thinking the exact same thing!

    Posted by: John | Jun 29, 2013 5:54:01 PM

  4. The setup is just too easy sometimes.
    200,000 'Sons of Liberty' out camping
    How many are gonna be gay?

    Karma smackdown.

    Posted by: JONES | Jun 29, 2013 5:57:15 PM

  5. Nothing like indoctrinating hate and intolerance- how very Christofascist of them.
    They should be so proud.

    Posted by: nick | Jun 29, 2013 5:58:32 PM

  6. Illegal. But, who cares....

    Posted by: s. | Jun 29, 2013 6:00:26 PM

  7. Jus sos ya know Cates, et al ...
    We're fighting for your gay kids too.
    And we won't ever quit.

    Posted by: JONES | Jun 29, 2013 6:01:20 PM

  8. These bigots couldn't organize a hot dog stand. Hot air and fist shaking--that's this "movement" entirely. It goes nowhere. Back to the circus, clowns. You don't have what it takes to make a national movement. We gays could tell you, but we don't like you. So screw off.

    Posted by: Jim | Jun 29, 2013 6:10:50 PM

  9. Once organized, American Heritage Boys makes headline with internal gay scandal in




    Posted by: johnny | Jun 29, 2013 6:21:26 PM

  10. I hated the Cub Scouts and the little time I was in the Boy Scouts --I'm not outdoorsy in the slightest-- but in my experience, I was not the only kid having sex with their tentmates on camping trips.

    Posted by: Henry Holland | Jun 29, 2013 6:40:05 PM

  11. Sons of "Liberty"...?

    Posted by: Munro | Jun 29, 2013 6:45:24 PM

  12. fine, let them. they have freedom of assembly. but they better not try to get 501(c)(3) tax exemption.

    Posted by: jed | Jun 29, 2013 7:16:05 PM

  13. This is actually good news - as the homophobes leave the BSA, that organization will move in the right direction faster than if the homophobes stayed.

    By forming their own organization, they are basically quarantining themselves. Hopefully they won't indoctrinate the kiddies - with no gays (at least, that's what they think), there is no reason for them to bring it up.

    Posted by: Bill | Jun 29, 2013 7:42:23 PM

  14. Brown Power!

    Posted by: Bruce | Jun 29, 2013 7:56:26 PM

  15. Don't let the door hit you in the @ss on your way out!

    Idiots. There have always BEEN gay Scouts! This is more like ending DADT than any real change to the organization.

    Posted by: Caliban | Jun 29, 2013 8:07:17 PM

  16. Oh, look! Hitler Youth!

    Posted by: Gizmit | Jun 29, 2013 8:26:13 PM

  17. It's a church...again. Yawn.

    Posted by: Geoff | Jun 29, 2013 9:06:30 PM

  18. Bigot Scouts of America!

    Posted by: kelehe | Jun 29, 2013 9:42:21 PM

  19. @Henry Holland. That was me and my friend sharing a sleeping bag right next to yours.

    Posted by: Stephen in Laguna | Jun 29, 2013 9:44:04 PM

  20. what normal 16yo, gay or straight, desires a 7yo? just sick. amazing what's said and done in the name of churchiness.

    Posted by: northalabama | Jun 29, 2013 9:46:40 PM

  21. Sounds like Hitler is coming back!

    Posted by: Randy | Jun 29, 2013 9:48:57 PM

  22. I agree with Henry. Put 14yr olds in tents overnight and they will mess around. The vast majority will end up married to women be church goers. In my troop I think I was the only gay kid although underwear was optional after lights out for many. The new groups will be legal however because they will all incorporate a religious element to provide cover as per the BSA v. Dale ruling.

    Posted by: terry | Jun 29, 2013 9:53:10 PM

  23. @northalabama : while I don't think much of those homophobes, they never suggested that a 16 year old would be interested in a 7 year old - the guy said he had a 7 year old grandson and was worried about what would happen when that nephew joined the boy scouts, which obviously would not happen for some time. Basically, he was worried about what would happen when his cute 7 year old grandson turned into a horny 16 year old teenager. Basically he's trying the Harold Hill ploy, "we've got trouble", from The Music Man.

    Posted by: Bill | Jun 29, 2013 10:04:57 PM

  24. Hitler already did that. There really is nothing original about these clowns.

    Posted by: RMc | Jun 29, 2013 10:06:46 PM

  25. "When he gets old enough for Boy Scouts, what do you do about a 16-year-old gay kid in camp?"

    Honestly, how stupid are these people who think that there haven't always been gay scouts in camp every year, in every camp, since the founding of the organization?

    Posted by: RWG | Jun 29, 2013 10:37:46 PM

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