Disgruntled Former Boy Scout Leaders To Create New Anti-gay Youth Organization

ScoutsBoy Scout leaders unhappy with the group's decision last month to extend membership to openly gay youth have been steadily gathering supporters in the hopes of forming a new, antigay alternative. John Stemberger, an Eagle Scout and Florida lawyer, operates a web site, www.onmyhonor.net, that has become the gathering place for scout leaders and families disappointed and angry about BSA's new policy. The Dallas Morning News reports:

Gerry Cates, 62, an Abilene businessman and Eagle Scout, is among the many Texans who allowed Stemberger to use their names on his web site. He said he's willing to support the new group – assuming it gets off the ground – with a little money and personal networking.

"The whole thing makes me angry," Cates said. "I think the scout leadership caved to gay politics and ruined the whole deal." 

During conversations with Cates and other critics of BSA's liberalized membership policy, the same issue keeps coming up – How will scoutmasters handle tent arrangements on campouts?

"I've got a 7-year-old grandson in Cub Scouts," Cates said. "When he gets old enough for Boy Scouts, what do you do about a 16-year-old gay kid in camp?"

BSA leaders stress that policy forbids any sexual behavior – homosexual or heterosexual – during scout activities. Violators will be punished, they insist

BSA consultants have reported that BSA might lose 10-12 percent of its 2.6 million members because of unhappiness with the new policy on gay scouts. Nonetheless, BSA's top leaders publicly backed the policy change.

Hundreds of people across the nation have already signed up as supporters on Stemberger's website. While the new group is not yet organized, supporters will be meeting this week in Louisville, Ky to discuss name options and the steps necessary to launch the organization nationwide. Announced name choices for the new organization include American Heritage Boys, American Sons of Liberty, and Patriot Rangers, among others.    

Comments

  1. Jim says

    These bigots couldn’t organize a hot dog stand. Hot air and fist shaking–that’s this “movement” entirely. It goes nowhere. Back to the circus, clowns. You don’t have what it takes to make a national movement. We gays could tell you, but we don’t like you. So screw off.

  2. Henry Holland says

    I hated the Cub Scouts and the little time I was in the Boy Scouts –I’m not outdoorsy in the slightest– but in my experience, I was not the only kid having sex with their tentmates on camping trips.

  3. Bill says

    This is actually good news – as the homophobes leave the BSA, that organization will move in the right direction faster than if the homophobes stayed.

    By forming their own organization, they are basically quarantining themselves. Hopefully they won’t indoctrinate the kiddies – with no gays (at least, that’s what they think), there is no reason for them to bring it up.

  4. Caliban says

    Don’t let the door hit you in the @ss on your way out!

    Idiots. There have always BEEN gay Scouts! This is more like ending DADT than any real change to the organization.

  5. terry says

    I agree with Henry. Put 14yr olds in tents overnight and they will mess around. The vast majority will end up married to women be church goers. In my troop I think I was the only gay kid although underwear was optional after lights out for many. The new groups will be legal however because they will all incorporate a religious element to provide cover as per the BSA v. Dale ruling.

  6. Bill says

    @northalabama : while I don’t think much of those homophobes, they never suggested that a 16 year old would be interested in a 7 year old – the guy said he had a 7 year old grandson and was worried about what would happen when that nephew joined the boy scouts, which obviously would not happen for some time. Basically, he was worried about what would happen when his cute 7 year old grandson turned into a horny 16 year old teenager. Basically he’s trying the Harold Hill ploy, “we’ve got trouble”, from The Music Man.

  7. RWG says

    “When he gets old enough for Boy Scouts, what do you do about a 16-year-old gay kid in camp?”

    Honestly, how stupid are these people who think that there haven’t always been gay scouts in camp every year, in every camp, since the founding of the organization?

  8. StevyD says

    At one time, the KKK was also a highly respected group with a large membership, had broad popular support and insisted that they espoused the best of christian values. Idiots always fail to heed the lessons of history.

  9. Joe in Ct says

    There have always been gay boy scouts. I was one of them and I can honesty say none of us ever messed around sexually at camp or on camp outs. That simply wasn’t a consideration. These anti-gay religious nuts are terribly misinformed and truly homophobic. They seem to think they can somehow screen out the gay boys from their new scouting group. Good luck with that.

  10. says

    One great alternative is the the Captain Program coming together bit by bit

    Captainslead.wordpress.com

    The world needs more great men, Captains is an alternative route to move young men to be great men. Think some “Survivor Man vs. Wild” mixed with a bit of “The Most Interesting Man in the World”. Teaching all the survival skills for the modern world, encouraging men of action, because in a world in which everyone outsources and delegates, action is what sets the men from the boys. Leaving the boys behind forging a new path where each young man not only scouts out the journey but leads their own Hero’s Journey…

    Captains are keen on learning all about great men throughout history…

    Some from that list of awesomeness include:
    John Wooden
    George Washington
    Jackie Robinson
    Socrates

    Young men will earn all types and kinds of stellar skills including Hunting Bigfoot (a.k.a Folklore) and how to Survive the Zombie Apocalypse (a.k.a Emergency Preparedness) and so much other cool stuff using Captains totally awesome guides…

  11. Kevin says

    John Stemberger is also the SOB who was responsible for putting together Florida’s gay marriage ban and whom supports the people who fly the gays will burn in hell banners at Gay Days each year.
    He’s a bigot through and through.

  12. shawnthesheep says

    I never got the allure of the Boy Scouts. I attended a couple meetings as a cub scout, but even as a young child it seemed a very judgmental place and reminded me of the few times I attended church with my grandmother. My mother must have agreed, because she seemed relieved when I told her I did not want to go back.

    As for this other group, they shouldn’t let the door him them in their bigoted asses on the way out. The sad reality is that there will be just as many gay kids in the new group as there are in the boy scouts. The kids in their group will just be raised to feel worse about it.

  13. Bill says

    @Canadian Observer: Unfortunately (only with respect to the copyright question), anyone claiming ownership of the trademark “Hitler Jugend” would be setting himself up for a war crimes investigation.

  14. Bill Michael says

    I am so sorry that Louisville, KY is where they decided to have their meeting. On behalf of Louisville, may I extend a heartfelt apology to all. By the way, wasn’t the Boy Scouts supposed to be about the boys? It would appear instead that the Boy Scouts is really about bigoted old men who are afraid they might get a woodie.

  15. Caliban says

    Great. Their official campfire song can be “Tommorrow Belongs To Me” from Cabaret. The good news is that in this case it will be ironic instead of prophetic since they’re already on the losing side of history.

  16. Woody Richey says

    We gay kids have always been there. Their little Anti-Gay Troop will have gays too!

    Time for everybody to settle down, and get over it!

  17. mmike1969 says

    What a ignorant fool. Well let this a$$hole spend his $$$ on this new group and it wont be long before the first underage sex scandal breaks out between these old coots and the young and bigoted.

  18. david from edmonton says

    Hitler already did this with the Nazi Youth and essentially its the KKK but for gays. Expect weird little armbands with weird little symbols and saluting is with the arm straight out and maybe white dunce cap looking headwear. Evil.

  19. Craig says

    And whosoever shall cause one of these little ones that believe on me to stumble, it were better for him if a great millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea. Mark 9:42

  20. John says

    Why is it so impossible for gay people to just keep it to themselves and stop trying to change the youth to their ways. If gay people had it their way, the planet would die off.

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