1. Rob says

    Yumm- and so it begins, the leftward shift of the Repukes. They will lose another round of elections or two with their policies, and some young campus republican will pop up – has to be good looking- and have sensible spending priorities, but be much less overt about promoting the interests of the rich. Will probably be a woman.

    And with these losses there will be zero energy for beating down gays. And the huge turning point will be when Texas goes blue. Yumm, yumm, yummm. I want my rights now, but in a way I want this to happen slowly so I can enjoy the panic in the eyes of bigots as their grasping, selfish policies are consigned to the scrap heap of history.

    Hillary is going to bother campaigning in Texas (hopefully with a good security detail) and I will personally fly there on election night while the returns come in. With a clipboard in hand. To cover my boner.

  2. jjose712 says

    Republicans are in a very very bad position right now, at least on terms of winning elections.
    The polls show the change, but if they want to win their seat in the Republican party they need to show their far right credential, but showing far right credential will make them lose the following election.
    A moderate republican is the only kind of republican candidate who has chances to win a national election, but the probabilities of him/her being elected by the republican bases are minimum.
    I suppose it will take them a couple of big loses to realize that they need to move on if they don’t want to became irrelevant.
    The victories of Tea party candidates on 2010 fooled them for a while, and right now it will be difficult to find a position. And loony candidates showing they are racist, homophobic or sexist is not going to help them

  3. says

    I wish elections were as simple as we’d like to think. The Rs can still win: people who vote for Graham and Boehner and McConnel every election—they don’t want to admit they’ve been wrong all these years; the “moveable middle” is so disheartened and cynical that they might not vote in enough numbers to turn Texas blue (for example).

    Yes, the Rs are in trouble, but they still have a substantial base and the electorate is still woefully ignorant.

  4. says

    Remember when Rob Portman’s son was “so proud of his dad” because his dad, years after his son came out, and months after the presidential election resulted in a Mitt-loss, decided to make the brave public statement that he believes his son should be allowed to legally marry?

    Too bad that when push comes to shove, he doesn’t think his son should be free from workplace and/or housing discrimination.

    But hey, this is the pole-smoking son of a rich white Republican policitian; he can gloryhole his way through life, getting work via daddy’s connections.

    What he can’t get, apparently, is his dad’s actual support.


    Republican Senators: proving to be the worst parents in America. If they’re not raising bigoted little sociopaths, they’re revealed to be ones, themselves.

    I know what when we deal with GOP and GOP-parents we need to lower our standards and expectations for critical thinking and human decency, but this is just embarrassing.

    Over and over again, republican senators show their care about their party’s bigoted line than they care about their own, or anyone else’s, kids.

    happy father’s day, Rob Portman. you’re a failure.

  5. Rick says

    “And that is awkward given that the country, as a whole, is in a really, really different place than that.”

    No, it isn’t. The vast majority of the population is apathetic about gay rights and deeply ambivalent about homosexuality.

    And the vast majority of the non-whites who now form the majority of the Democrat rank-and-file remain deeply homophobic.

    Eventually, through demographic change, the Reuben Diaz’s of the world will be able to ignore white liberals and change the positions of the Democratic Party to reflect the homophobic views of that rank-and-file.

  6. bructer says

    And then there AZ Flake, who is bring up a racist, homophobic, anti-smite 16yo a-hole, congrats Repub’s. Made they should nominate him, he fits the mold

  7. Derrick in Philly says

    I guess those two girls on the right standing there with their hands covering their vaginas don’t trust Perry not to try to force an HPV vaccination on them.

  8. says

    the GOP has made their deal with the devil; their energy-plan is to harness, and feed, the voting power of the scum of america.

    and it doesn’t seem they have any problem with history painting it as just that.

  9. says

    Demographic changes aren’t going to harm gay rights–that’s a myth easily revealed as such by current polls. (A majority of Hispanics, for instance, favor equality.) The Democratic party will continue to grow more pro-gay, along with the country, whereas the Republican party, unless some rational moderates emerge, will remain mired in the past.

  10. Profe Sancho Panza says

    One question they’re calculating, of course, is whether an anti-gay Republican could still pick up enough votes on the electoral map to become president without the “gay marriage states”, or perhaps even by positioning himself/herself in opposition to those states’ values.

    Another question is how many voters might support same-sex marriage but not refuse to vote for candidates who disagree; voters have a wide range of deal-breakers.

  11. Merv says

    Around 95% of voters are straight, and even if a large number of them have pro-gay sentiments, very few are going to weight gay rights very heavily in their voting decision. Mostly it’s about the economy. If it continues to recover, Hillary will likely win. If we fall back into another recession, the Republicans will likely win.

  12. Kevin says

    Little Kiwi,Portman is merely following the path of Harry Reid and Jon Tester. Reid voted for DOMA way back when and had a shaky record on gay rights.
    Tester was NOT happy about Obama coming out for gay marriage for fear it would hurt his reelection chances and didn’t come out for gay marriage even after he was reelected and was one of the last Democrats to do so.
    Not a big deal other then the fact his son is gay.
    Bottom line,for most of these guys/gals,their careers come first,kids second.

  13. says

    I hear that, Kevin.

    It’s just funny. Just in time for Father’s Day, Portman makes it clear to his son that, yeah, Daddy Is Ashamed of You.

    typical republican parents. care more about what the neighbour’s think than about making the world a better place for their own kid.

  14. Kevin says

    By all means,Portman should be called out but Tester has to be called out as well for his actions leading up to 2012.
    I can only imagine what it would be like to hear your dad worrying about your right to get married hurting his reelection chances.
    As for Portman,he’s already dead to social conservatives and will most likely get primaried. He’s refusal to stand up for his now will mean nothing.

  15. Homer says

    As observed by Rachel Maddow herself, the Republican position “doesn’t make sense”. I think it perfectly describes (the majority) Republican thought-process -that even as U.S. society is clearly evolving towards a more equitable viewpoint as far as gay right are concerned the more hard-core members of the Republican party choose to ignore the shift in order to hold on to their fundamentalist base. This shouldn’t surprise anybody with a working brain.

  16. Tony says

    ITA with Merv. When it comes to voting for elected officials, things like gay marriage are not “make or break” with anyone except gay people and their HARDCORE allies. Even if the general public were casually in favor of gay marriage, they’re not gonna make THAT more important than jobs/economy, healthcare, gas prices, and whatever other more pressing issues going on at the moment that effects their day-to-day when it comes time to vote. If the mood in 2016 is that Obama’s 8 years was lackluster, or could have been better, then the Republican nominee WILL have an edge on the Democratic one…no matter how hot or cold he is when it comes to gay people.

  17. says

    @Tony, you’re right that marriage equality isn’t a top issue for the majority of Americans (though a majority of the young people Republicans need to attract think it’s a no-brainer), but it’s still a top issue for Republican primary voters, who skew old and homophobic, and it’s of a piece with the extreme positions Republicans have to take now to survive the primaries. If they’re in a conservative district, they can still win with current demographics, but the demographics are changing many places, and at the national level the Republican who wins the Republican nomination is too far right on many issues, including gay rights, to be a viable candidate to a majority who rejects backwards Republican social values.

    Not that I mind their political stupidity if it keeps them out of the White House.

  18. Bob says

    Sorry everyone, senior moment caused my incorrect post of the link to the Maddow videos being broken. I just spaced seeing the giant right-arrow after I “followed the jump”. I know return you to your own lives as I slink off to the eye doctor.

Leave A Reply