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Gay Priest Addresses Pope's And Cardinal Dolan's Remarks On Gays

Gary Meier
Pope Francis made remarks about gay priests and gay Catholics that generated a great deal of publicity on Monday. New York cardinal and archbishop Timothy Dolan subsequently made comments the following day that, according to some, attempted to backtrack on the Pope's message of tolerance and peace. It's not often that you find someone with a vested interest in both Catholicism and LGBT rights. Fortunately, HuffPost Gay Voices managed to find Father Gary Meier, an openly gay priest and author of the book Hidden Voices: Reflections of a Gay, Catholic Priest, and asked for his thoughts on the two potentially-conflicting messages spouted by both the Pope and Cardinal Dolan.

"I'm not the only gay priest," Meier began. "In fact, there are lots of gay priests in the clergy and in the Catholic church today." He went on then to explain that the Pope's original comments could potentially aid those gay members of the clergy who live life in fear of being exposed to their colleagues and congregations. 

"I'm hopeful that the pope's comment about gay priests would maybe encourage other gay priests to come out, as I have a few months ago, and just not be so afraid to just be gay and to be a priest...There's been such a lot of anti-gay and hostile environment from Catholic hierarchy throughout the world towards the LGBT community." 

Thus, a comment such as "who am I to judge," coming from the world's most powerful Catholic could certainly be the catalyst for a welcome change in tone with regard to the church's teachings on homosexuality. "I'm an advocate that homosexuality is a gift from God," Meier said.

"It's not a curse, it's not a cross, it's not something you have to be silent about and be ashamed of...I hope that this [the Pope's comment] might be an avenue in which to have further conversations about homosexuality and what it means to be gay and Catholic." 

What about detractors such as Dolan? Meier chose not to address the cardinal's comments directly. Instead, he chose to simply gloss them over by saying "the fact of the matter is that most Catholics in the United States support the LGBT community," and previously offereing up his own comming out experience as proof. 

Watch Meier's interview at HuffPost Gay Voices HERE

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  1. What hasn't changed is the church's policy that ACTING on one's homosexuality is still considered a sin. So in other words, if you are "cursed" by being gay, you must remain celibate for life in the eyes of the Catholic Church. Thanks a lot. They defend this by saying "any sex outside of a Catholic-sanctioned marriage is sinful", yet they conveniently reject same-sex marriage, which would prevent the celibacy requirement! Their reason for rejecting same-sex marriage a also BS. They say a marriage is for procreation so gay couples are excluded. BUT, they are happy to marry couples that are unable to conceive or who are beyond child-producing age. This is a double standard and unacceptable. Nothing has changed -- it's all politics.

    Posted by: Joseph | Jul 31, 2013 9:41:20 AM


  2. Hey Father Gary Meier, why the heck would anyone listen to you? Gay Catholic priest... That either makes you totally inept or a mean spirited person. I assume the second one.

    Posted by: Fenrox | Jul 31, 2013 9:44:18 AM


  3. Fr.G.Meier what does the bible say in:Leviticus 18
    Laws of Sexual Morality-
    22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. 23 Nor shall you mate with any animal, to defile yourself with it. Nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it. It is perversion.
    24 ‘Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for by all these the nations are defiled, which I am casting out before you. 25 For the land is defiled; therefore I visit the punishment of its iniquity upon it, and the land vomits out its inhabitants. 26 You shall therefore keep My statutes and My judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations, either any of your own nation or any stranger who dwells among you 27 (for all these abominations the men of the land have done, who were before you, and thus the land is defiled), 28 lest the land vomit you out also when you defile it, as it vomited out the nations that were before you. 29 For whoever commits any of these abominations, the persons who commit them shall be cut off from among their people.
    Romans 1:
    God’s Wrath on Unrighteousness
    18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
    24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves,…..
    26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
    Isaiah 8:11 For the LORD spoke thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying: 12 “ Do not say, ‘A conspiracy,’ Concerning all that this people call a conspiracy, Nor be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled. 13 The LORD of hosts, Him you shall hallow; Let Him be your fear, And let Him be your dread. AMEN

    Posted by: D.S.CHIBILIKA | Jul 31, 2013 10:02:42 AM


  4. Way to go with the "tolerance" FENROX

    Posted by: Eric Gonzalez | Jul 31, 2013 10:18:39 AM


  5. "Many religions now come before us with ingratiating smirks and outspread hands, like an unctuous merchant in a bazaar. They offer consolation and solidarity and uplift, competing as they do in a marketplace. But we have a right to remember how barbarically they behaved when they were strong and were making an offer that people could not refuse." -C. Hitchens

    Posted by: Eric | Jul 31, 2013 10:35:56 AM


  6. "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman"
    It means it is ok to lie with a male as with a MALE.
    Of course s woman is not the same as a man.

    Posted by: simon | Jul 31, 2013 11:00:53 AM


  7. Only idiots follow the teachings of a two thousand year old fairy tales collection partly written by some primitive men in the Middle East.

    Posted by: simon | Jul 31, 2013 11:07:56 AM


  8. The Bible is clear that same-sex marriage and opposite-sex marriage are the same to God. "There is neither male nor female, there is no Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, you are all one in Christ" (Galatians 3:28). God does not discriminate against His children on the basis of race, sex, sexual orientation, class, ethnicity, etc. Indeed, Jesus taught the values of love, non-judgmentalism, generosity, and helping those, such as gay people, who are persecuted by sinful human society. God created gay people and God does not make mistakes. Any true Christian would recognize that God views gay love as an unconditional positive and gay families as no different from heterosexual families. I continue to pray that the pope and hierarchy of Roman Catholicism will listen to God's will instead of their own sinful biases.

    Posted by: DB | Jul 31, 2013 11:12:20 AM


  9. @D.S.CHIBILIKA: Read the last sentence or two of Leviticus - it indicates that the whole book applies to "the people of Israel," not all of humanity. The prohibitions are also ambiguous, as at the time pagans in the area practices fertility rights in which temple prostitutes (bottoms) had sexual relations with everyone who wanted to as a way of ensuring a good harvest (don't ask how they came up with that part of it). Leviticus was apparently written after the Babylonian exile ended and those who had stayed behind had started to assimilate, so the harsh wording was to get them back in line.

    Anything that Paul wrote has to be understood in context. He used purposely vague terms whose translations are actually unclear, and these words are usually rendered to refer to the "sin du jour", usually of a sexual nature. He was also reacting to sexual behavior common in pagan temples of the time that, in some places, would make the proverbial gay bathhouse look like a gathering of Quaker in comparison. Aside from that, he was trying to take a rag-tag group of Christian sects with varying beliefs and unify them. When you add in the delays in transporting letters from one city to another, it isn't surprising that he would use phrases that allowed people to read in what they wanted to hear - that was good politics. An extremely negative reaction to one sentence would have resulted in the rest of the letter being ignored.

    Probably the best translation of some of this stuff (a rather free one) would be, "We have trouble in River City, my friends, we have trouble." You don't get people to hurry into
    church, or get them to buy musical instruments
    from a charlatan in order to "save the children", if you don't scare them first with the evils of sex or pool (in the case of the lines from The Music Man paraphrased above).

    Posted by: Bill | Jul 31, 2013 10:08:15 PM


  10. It looks like a lot of folks posting here do not realize that the collection of books we call the bible, are just the primitive ideas of an ancient people. Those books are no more divinely inspired than the Code of Hammurabi or the Code of Draco. That bible belongs on the same dusty library or museum shelf as those primitive tomes. Only "believers" and other fools allow the writings of the ancients, who knew almost nothing about the real world, to regulate their 21st century lives.

    Posted by: andrew | Aug 1, 2013 1:54:36 AM


  11. I see lots of homos are here tell us how the bible says homosexuality is OK.Their minds are seared over with a hot iron. Since they dont admit its wrong, they convince themselfs its fine and dandy. My sin is no less than theirs or anyones.But i know im a sinner and dont say its OK. i want to be free of sin. These nasty gays love their sin.

    Posted by: st bosco | Aug 1, 2013 11:20:45 AM


  12. St Bosco:
    You are talking about "original sin"? As Richard Dawkin said: "What a revolting, depraved, inhuman theory to base your life on."

    Posted by: simon | Aug 1, 2013 1:41:46 PM


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