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  1. Bob says

    Without question, Colorado is one of the most homophobic states in the Union at all levels and as you might expect the most Republican (a.k.a. RepubliThugs(tm) Inc. Only when incidents like this (and many similar) end up with the homophobe having the PAY REAL MONEY will be see something positive happen. Money makes everything happen, don’t forget.

  2. Billy says

    I have no sympathy for weak, closeted men. I came out in high school and it wasn’t any picnic for me : my school and town pretty much shunned me and my father hates my guts.

  3. Sam says

    Bob

    Colorado just passed a Civil Unions bill. We elected a Democratic governor, both our US Senators are Dems, and 3 of elected officials in the House of Representatives are Democratic. Oh, and our state senate enjoys a 57% Democratic majority — hardly the “most republican” state in the US.

  4. GregV says

    I know straight amd gay men who don’t even ask when booking a Thai massage (even when on vacation in Thailand) what the gender of the practioner is. It doesn’t indicate their sexusl orientation any more thsn the gender of the dentist who pokes around in their mouth.
    If this guy was really going to a prostitute who uses “massage” as a ruse then that would be different (but still not necessarily the business of his employer).

  5. Onnyjay says

    Colorado seems determined to outdo Flarda for red-neckery. Might be some liberals around somewhere, but then there’s Colo Springs with all the “family” and gun nuts and the Air Farce Academy’s evangelical thugs.

  6. says

    Everyone please be aware, POLYGRAPH tests are not always accurate. I say this not in reference to the above story but as a result of an experience over 30 years ago when I agreed to take one for something that happened. I was 100% innocent but being a nervous teen the results were the opposite and made me look very guilty.

    Ultimately all was straightened out but I have to stress that these tests are very capable of false readings. Besides, a hardened criminal could be cool as cucumber due to his lack of true compassion.

  7. Hagatha says

    I find trips to Thailand suspicious, gay or straight. Be honest, Thailand is synonymous with young prostitutes.

  8. anon says

    Bizarre case. They seemed to have evidence he went to Thailand for underage sex romps (it’s technically illegal to travel overseas for the purposes of having sex with a minor, even if the sex is legal in the destination country). Then you have the classic bureaucratic policy turf battles. Then you have the also classic civil servant gets his day in court case.

  9. says

    I don’t know what to think of this story. One of my roommates is applying to be a police officer and he’s taken several polygraph tests and questions of porn, child molestation and pedophilia are common in a police hiring lie detector. I don’t think the state police asked him those questions because they were discriminating against him. They were just asking what is standard of police hiring procedures.

  10. ratbastard says

    Guys travel to certain [2nd and 3rd world] places mostly for one reason. I won’t bother mentioning those places except to say Thailand is among them. This is an open secret. You’re a guy vacationing in [fill in the blank], you come under suspicion.

  11. Little Kiwi says

    If you read the decision, the case is far more nuanced. Personally, I didn’t read any clear evidence in the decision that he wasn’t rehired because of sexual orientation. In fact, the chief who made the decision didn’t even know the complainant was gay.
    Rather, he had a “significant reaction” to a question about illegal sexual activity on the polygraph that made the chief and other troopers think he was concealing illegal sexual misconduct. Additionally, he had admitted to viewing child pornography on Xtube (he said he was 100% sure it was child pornography) and had admitted to getting a handjob from a (male) masseuse in Thailand. All of those facts combined led to the decision not to rehire the complainant. I think the anti-gay justification is a bit of a stretch.

    In general I have to say that the guy doesn’t seem very likable, and seems like a bit of a coward.

  12. GregV says

    @Little Kiwi, I could go along with all that you said except: Where is the relevance of asking the gender of someone who gave him a hand-job if there isn’t some prejudice at play in at least THAT question?
    Likewise, if they had asked, “What race was your last girlfriend?” and found out she was black and THEN thrown the book at him, I would wonder why they felt that answer had any relevance to anything.

  13. Ryan says

    Colorado is both one of the most hard core Republican states… and a progressive bastion in that part of the country.

    Both are really true, depending on what parts of Colorado and who in Colorado you’re talking to. Thankfully it’s been trending blue and the demographics are clear on which direction Colorado will continue to trend toward.

    Woot, woot.

  14. Little Kiwi says

    @Gregv, admittedly the polygraph interviewer made an oopsie, but there was no evidence in the record that the interviewer told anyone else that the complainant had said the masseuse was male. In fact, in the memos regarding the polygraph interview, the interviewing trooper merely stated that the complainant had disclosed he had received a massage in thailand with a “happy ending,” and did not disclose the sex of the masseuse. The chief is the one who made the decision not to rehire, and there’s no evidence that he knew the sex of the masseuse when he made that decision. Additionally, the interviewer didn’t ask any follow-up questions about the complainant’s sexual orientation or sexual preferences.

  15. Little Kiwi says

    @Gregv, admittedly the polygraph interviewer made an oopsie, but there was no evidence in the record that the interviewer told anyone else that the complainant had said the masseuse was male. In fact, in the memos regarding the polygraph interview, the interviewing trooper merely stated that the complainant had disclosed he had received a massage in thailand with a “happy ending,” and did not disclose the sex of the masseuse. The chief is the one who made the decision not to rehire, and there’s no evidence that he knew the sex of the masseuse when he made that decision. Additionally, the interviewer didn’t ask any follow-up questions about the complainant’s sexual orientation or sexual preferences.

  16. ratbastard says

    Just another femmy closeted queer trolling around with underage boys. I wouldn’t have hired him either. At least he had the good sense to keep his personal life private.