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  1. THurts says

    The interesting part of this entire case is that B. Scott had already appeared on BET before, so they knew exactly who B. Scott was. I agree with the lawsuit. They need to not only preach about diversity, but create a culture in their company that practices and truly believes in diversity.

  2. Serene says

    It is rare that anything good comes from associating a business with transgender. It doesn’t help BET’s brand and dealing with a “trans woman” inevitably is going to bring strife and hostility. There is a reason that transgender continues to be found in the DSM V under both a disorder and a dysphoria.

  3. MateoM says

    Why is it that Trans stories always brings out the worst in towleroad’s commenters? I swear the most unapologetically prejudice comments are always posted on Trans stories. Don’t you vile trolls have any sort of decency?

  4. Nathan says

    the outfit looked pretty tacky-maybe they just didn’t like the look. B Scott got her/his apology-case closed

    Matoem-I think many gay people-myself included-don’t/can’t associate with a trans person-they are just as foreign to us as they are to straight people-the “T” was thrown into the gay rights cause when it truly is something else-maybe a little resentment…

  5. JakeInNYC says

    “There is a reason that transgender continues to be found in the DSM V under both a disorder and a dysphoria.”

    I think he has a valid point, nothing in his statement was trolling, the entire remark by Serene was factually accurate.

    If you want to support Trans people, a great deal needs to change if you expect the general public’s acceptance. And one can hardly educate the public on the topic when the DSM has defined Trans people in the manner it has.

    Maybe activists need to start there.

    And for the record, I’ve personally known, worked with, and socialized with several trans people over the years that I love and respect, and do not treat any differently than I treat anybody else.

    If I were to say anything about Trans people as a generalization, I’d say they are notably warmer and kinder than the general public.

    Maybe that’s why they don’t get the kind of PR everybody else does.

  6. Thedrdonna says

    I think it’s important to note that trans people have, throughout the past, been lumped together with LGB people. Gender nonconformity includes the idea that men are attracted to women and vice versa. It’s only more recently, with the advent of actual medical interventions that allow trans people to transition, that the distinctions between LGB and T became more pronounced.

    And, for the record, studies have found that around 2/3 of all people who transition are LGB.

  7. Serene says

    My comments reflect what I genuinely believe. I am not a “troll.”

    There are very real concerns about the consequences of transforming gay people into a new hybrid “people” called LGBT. Among other things, it warps gay and lesbian identity and confuses the public into thinking that LGBs are some sort of gender-conflicted group or perhaps a “third sex.”

    DrDonna is correct when she notes that decades ago people used to lump homosexuals in with crossdressers and transsexuals (not to mention a variety of sexual criminals, fetishists and even communists). The gay movement was all about educating people so that we could move away from those stereotypical beliefs. Why would we want to undermine all of our education efforts and now promote the very associations and beliefs that reigned in the 1950s? LGBT isn’t progressive. It is reactionary and hurts LGBs as well as Ts.

    MateoM, that is why you may see hostility when there are trans stories posted here. LGBs understand when they are being misdefined against their will.

  8. Serene says

    TheDrDonna, “trans” people includes vastly more than transitioned transsexuals. Trans people, as trans activists define them, are no more likely to be LGB than any other person in the population. In other words, they are overwhelmingly heterosexual. LGBT is a means to hijack the gay civil rights movement and put it at the service of heterosexuals. You focus on a tiny sub-sub set in order to evade that fact.

    As for transitioned transsexuals, while a higher percentage may identify as LGB at the time of surgery, they identify as heterosexual over time. But even if that 2/3 number, for which you offer no citation, were right and even if it stayed constant over time, that still wouldn’t justify LGBT. A disproportionate percentage of florists, flight attendants and residents of West Hollywood are LGB. That doesn’t mean that the LGB community now has to incorporate into its identity every person who works as a florist or flight attendant, nor does it mean that the entire population of West Hollywood forms “one people” with LGBs.

    To the extent that there are Ts who are also LGB, then they are part of the LGB community. But that is because they are LGB, not because they have a gender disorder or dysphoria.

  9. johnny says

    If you are wearing women’s clothing and consider yourself a gay man (not a woman trapped in a man’s body), aren’t you basically a cross-dressing man? A CD?

    I don’t get the “trans” part of this guy’s schtick. If he is transitioning to a woman, why does he keep self-identifying as “he, him, his” instead of “she, her, hers”?

  10. Derrick from Philly says

    JOHNNY,

    Not all Transgender folks are Transsexuals. And many many Gay folks (men and women) are androgynous in their appearance ON PURPOSE–they are Gay but they also fit under the umbrella term of Transgender.

    I was one. …was no where near as pretty as B. Scott though.

  11. Derrick from Philly says

    @ “No, “many many” gay people are not transgender. You just want to think that because you were.”

    They were. You were just to scared to come out on the streets to see us.

    @ “Misery loves company.”

    Hell, those years were the happiest of my life.

    Any viewing of “Paris Is Burning” proves me right.

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