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  1. tinhouston says

    Horrific comments. My God what our brothers and sisters in Russia must live through each day with statements like these coming down from the powers in charge!

  2. Steve says

    He looks like Dr. Evil. And nobody speaks out against it out of the fear to be hauled off to the gulag or dosed with polonium.

  3. Bill says

    I’m surprised that retread from the Third Reich didn’t say “Jews” instead of “gays” due to a slip of the tongue!

    You know, while it might not be feasible to move the Olympics from Sochi due to time constraints, it wouldn’t be hard to set up on-line stores for all the trinkets, tee shirts, and other things people buy at such events, so none of the money spent on that goes to Russia.

  4. Jeff says

    I’m so tired of hearing about canceling Sochi due to time constraints and the like. They should be cancelled due to the imminent danger to gays and lesbians in Russia. If the 1936 Olympics would have been canceled sure there would have been some money lost. But the Olympics would have continued four years later nonetheless and maybe a broader view of Nazi Germany would have been focused on correcting what was going so wrong. Currently this Russia thing is much smaller and should be nipped in the bud. Cancel the Olympics. Boycott Coke, McDonalds, P&G and all Olympics advertisers.

  5. JONES says

    ‘Unsuitable for the continuation of life’ and the assembly of lawmakers applauds.

    Easily stamps ‘LIE’ to that official propaganda BS that ‘it’s about protecting the children’.

    Wake up world.

    FYI Jews are the second most maligned group in Russia. The nightly blog posts are full of anti-gay and anti-semitic rants.

  6. JMC says

    His remarks about burning and burying the hearts of gay Russians is incredibly chilling. It seems like just when I become desensitized to the terrible and hateful things homophobes say they somehow come up with something new and especially sick to say. I’m scared to see what the inevitable upcoming homophobic laws are to be.

  7. Geoff says

    This really, really needs to be shown to President Obama! I don’t think he realizes the depth of hatred in Russia. It makes me sick. People are in danger…and we’re ‘playing games’.

  8. Mike Ryan says

    Obviously Nazi Germany is alive and well in Russia. Turn your back on this country without hesitation. There is no excuse for anyone in the free world to support Russia in any way, shape or form.

  9. Hanzel says

    As a teen, I found it hard just living in a small town in Canada. I can’t even imagine the fear of being discovered or just being who I am, if I would of been born in Russia instead. It’s as if they think that by not saying gay people exist or even by killing us (unsuitable for the continuation of life) that it would eliminate homosexuality from their country, forgetting that we are born from straight people.

  10. bkmn says

    Spoken like someone with a secret rentboy he keeps for weekend fun times.

    As far as boycott, personally not in favor of one. I would however like to see the IOC ban Russia from competing in their own games.

  11. says

    This is the tip of the iceberg (and it is chilling) of the kind of media propaganda that’s propping up their propaganda law. To those who say, well, the propaganda law isn’t so bad if you read what it says, BS. This is the climate it is taking place in, a climate where LGBT hearts shall be buried in the ground or burned. This is what Putin and the Church have worked to achieve.

  12. borut says

    Ok, I’ve read some further statements from the guy over at dailykos.com and he says he was talking about the need for Russia to introduce laws banning gays from donating blood or organs, like the ones that exist in Western countries.

    The guy is still a hideous homophobe, but this puts things in a different perspective. Apparently, Russia still allows the hearts of gays killed in accidents to live on in other people, while the majority of Western countries do not. Ironic, really.

  13. says

    Yes: the context of this comment, which was much longer and aired about a year ago, was that the US also considers gay people diseased, because they don’t use their blood or their organs.

    It’s one more reason to get rid of the FDA blood ban — it’s used by homophobes around the world to confirm that gay people are shunned even in the US.

  14. gb says

    If your’re closeted in Russia how do they know you are gay when you die?Or how do you tell a straight heart from a gay heart?

  15. northalabama says

    speaking of jews, why aren’t any jewish groups standing up and loudly denouncing the russian law? hello…anybody out there?

  16. says

    GB with the exception of a very small handful of activists, everyone is closeted in Russia. Most gay men still marry in Russia. So yes, they would have no way of knowing.

    That’s what the laws and homophobia in general are supposed to do: keep people completely invisible (ostensibly so others won’t be tempted to join them).

  17. walter says

    please tell me what straight guy plucks his eyebrows. can you say self loathing closet case

  18. tom says

    And this is how it begins, as the world once again turns a blind eye because homosexuals in 2013 are considered expendable. Shame on every gay rights group in America that is not screaming from the rooftops about the obscene corporate and national sponsorship of this filth.

  19. MIke says

    “Wow, and we give Uganda a bad rap.

    POSTED BY: KISSYFUR | AUG 11, 2013 6:34:11 PM”

    You have to wonder while in certain countries homosexuality is punishable by death why these places seem to now take the back of the bus seat to the USSR. Other than the obvious upcoming Olympics there. Yes, the fact that you could be machetteed to death on a Ugandan street instantly for being a f@g gets them a worse “rap” than Russia. Same with any Islamic country where LOOKING gay gets you shot.

    Is it because gay Russians are white?

  20. Onnyjay says

    One can only wonder how long it will be before they go ahead and burn gays’ hearts without the cumbersome inconvenience of making sure we’re dead first… No “games” are worth this, nuke ’em now!!

  21. borut says

    @MIKE

    I think we hold Russia (the USSR does not exist anymore) to higher standards, because it still is a part of our Western civilisation. With countries whose cultures are further removed from our own, we seem to be less critical. It is harder to accept that someone with whom you have so much in common is capable of going against your convictions.

  22. Bill says

    @KevinVT: And his claim about why they don’t accept blood from gays is simply wrong. It simply
    reflects a statistically higher percentage of people infected with HIV (mostly for historical reasons as the straight community is doing a good job of catching up). They’ll take samples from a number of individuals, mix them, and then run a sensitive HIV test. If it turns out positive, they have to basically do a binary search to eliminate the donors who were infected. The cost effectiveness of this is dependent on the percentage of people infected. If you try 10 people and 1 percent are infected, you have a 90 percent chance of being able to accept all of them without the cost of testing each one. if 1.5 percent are infected, there is an 86 percent chance. They simply figure that it is more cost effective to lose a few percent of possible donors than to increase the cost of testing – if you have to try multiple times, your cost for testing goes up substantially.

    All that is changing, of course, due to the (relatively) recent availability of rapid and low cost HIV tests, but bureaucracies react slowly.

  23. Tristram says

    A good point is raised – would the world be so hesitant to boycott the games if Russia were legislating against Jewish people? And if not then why not?

  24. JONES says

    Please stop taking every disclaimer of legitimacy and false explanations at face value. His explanation of intentions is ludicrous. Is he a blood specialist, or a research scientist? Does he have expertise in hematology? No. He’s a Putin crony hate monger with a free license to use incendiary language against LGBT on a nationally televised broadcast without fear of repercussion. Do you honestly think that any honorable discussion about the safety of blood donation and heart transplants would be conducted in a forum like that anywhere?

    His true intention is to incite anti-gay fervor and is easily understood for the endorsement of violence against LGBT it purports.

    Burning and burying homosexual hearts. Ask yourself this … how would they even know a heart came from someone LGBT?

  25. Bill says

    @borut: one obvious difference between Russia and Western countries is the number of lawyers – in the very unlikely event that an HIV+ person who does not know he is infected donates an organ, and the most sensitive tests don’t detect the virus, you’ll still have some pompous lawyer going on about how the FLAGRANT disregard for his client’s health (of course we won’t talk about the possibility of his client expiring due to a lack of matching organs, since you can’t sue someone for what is not available from a third party.)

    Well, less so in most Western countries…. It is like the joke about why California has the most lawyers and New Jersey has the most toxic dumps – New Jersey got the first choice.

  26. says

    In terms of HIV in Russia, they should be more worried about straight drug addicts than gay people. But, of course, this isn’t really about about the Russian blood or organ supply but rather about branding gay people as other: pedophiles, diseased, non-Russian, inhuman.

  27. will says

    We aren’t going to CHANGE this man or the 75% of the country which agrees with him — they have a long road ahead before any hint of acceptance. Like the U.S. in the 1950s and going back to Oscar Wilde.

    However, I think we have a duty to our Russian gay brothers and sisters, at the very least, to show ourselves, to be counted, and to take a stand against these oppressive laws. The BIGOTS need to see us taking a stand. We’ll banter back & forth on these threads like we do for the next few months about the horribe legislations and repressive regime, but when the chips are down, we must show ourselves, our gay athletes must declare themselves, our straight allies must, too. We must not take over the show, but we have a moral duty to be counted and do the right thing.

  28. UFFDA says

    Thank you WILL, that was right minded and heartfelt. We must all take part in concerted community action against everything that this loathsome commentator represents.

  29. Betty Treacle says

    Russia: the only country where time actually runs backwards!

    And that clip looks like some sort of kitsch 1970s SNL parody.

  30. Wolfgang says

    While is comments are certainly horrific, I’d be interested in the context. Two clicks through the ABOUT section of the video and we see that this was part of an almost 100 minutes long program:

  31. TheSeer says

    We hold Russia to a higher standard than Uganda because Russia is a world power. And Uganda is not.

  32. Mike says

    I don’t think those who applaud these jack boots understand that gays are just the beginning. It is already a crime to speak against the Russian Orthodox Church. Soon it will be a crime to propogandize minors in another religion. Then Jews, Protestants, and Roman Catholics will be jailed for teaching their children their faith.

  33. T.J says

    EVERY LGBT owes it to HUMANITY to speak fiercely and constantly about the brutality of our LGBT brothers & sisters in Russia frequently and without shame, leading to these Olympics. Use social media as our gift.

  34. Jillian says

    My best friend is Russian and lesbian with family in Russia. She says the anti gay propaganda in Russia recently has been so bad that essentially every media outlets spends a good portion of their segments telling viewers that gays are the enemy and are going to attempt to kill their children and all kinds of nonsense.

    My lesbian Russian friend said even her family who used to be open minded to her being gay are now seriously homophobic and she blames it on a culture shift and media, making citizens paranoid and homophobic. It’s REALLY really ugly there.

  35. Dean says

    I honestly fear for the safety of LGBT athletes. I read somewhere that there are anti gay gangs in Russia and it’s all so chilling.

  36. Don't watch RT news says

    There have been debates about the vodka boycott as far as how much Russia owns it. Well, the one thing to boycott that is right there in front of every one is RT NEWS. Of course I stopped watching it a long time ago,and reading it. Don’t get it on cable where I am but as far as the net, don’t click on an RT link, or watch their videos. That simple. That is where you hit them. This “news” channel is funded by the Kremlin and lots of money is into it. Also one must think this, if Putin kicks out NGO’s for meddling as he calls it, RT News is an NGO by Putin here. Think about that for one minute and the hypocritical light this shows Putin, the Kremlin, and this horrible “news” show which is not news at all. It’s an NGO funded by Putin. It does not report anything at all just anti western dribble that does not really help anything . Boycott it don’t watch it and if you are in doubts research about this channel. RT is an NGO funded by Putin who in does not want NGOs in his country yet, pays to have RT in this country and other western countries. Ponder that one for a minute it shows Putin’s child like mental state. “You can’t do it to me but I can do it to you” Why we allow that garbage here is beyond me. RT is not in our best interests as Americans or anyone from the West.

  37. gregorybrown says

    Somehow the part about putting a stake in dead gay hearts before burning was overlooked.

  38. jamal49 says

    Russians are wretches, a miserable and degenerate people.

    Remember, many of those now in power grew up under the old Soviet system, which replaced the rule of the Romanovs but kept the excesses of paranoia and distrust that marked the ancien regime.

    Russia is a society firmly rooted in a culture of alcoholism and xenophobia. The Russian Orthodox Church, once relegated to the dark fringes of Russian life during the Soviet regime, has surged back into the center of Russian civil society.

    Unfortunately, it has also retaken its place as the arbiter of Russian morals. Considering that the Church willingly participated in the violent oppression of the Romanov Tsars and the more subtle but sinister psychological suppression of the Soviets, its resurgence and resumption of its vile homophobic, anti-Semitic and xenophobic influence is disturbing and certainly to even further regress Russian social attitudes.

    Regardless, within the next few years, it is most certainly to become the first of western-influenced societies to impose the death penalty on LGBT people.

  39. Joseph2 says

    Mike, I’ve been thinking about that issue, too — why the Russian laws have made international headlines while far more draconian laws in Africa and the Middle East have not.

    I don’t think it’s necessarily because the victims here are white compared to black or brown, but because of a number of other elements:

    1. Russia has had a longer history with the West and is considered to be a European country, though it spans 2 continents; part of that history is as a “civilized” culture that has produced much of the world’s most beloved art, literature and music, including that created by gay men such as Tchaikovsky and Gogol.

    2. The fact that the Olympics are taking place in Russia has definitely shined a light on these issues — the comparisons to Nazi Germany in 1936 are, for once, sadly apt.

    3. Finally, I think gay activists in the United States are starting to look outside our own country; the end of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell and the Supreme Court rulings in favor of marriage equality have allowed us to realize that ultimate victory in the U.S. is soon within reach, so that we can look to making a change around the world.

    Just my 2 cents.

  40. Joseph2 says

    Mike, I’ve been thinking about that issue, too — why the Russian laws have made international headlines while far more draconian laws in Africa and the Middle East have not.

    I don’t think it’s necessarily because the victims here are white compared to black or brown, but because of a number of other elements:

    1. Russia has had a longer history with the West and is considered to be a European country, though it spans 2 continents; part of that history is as a “civilized” culture that has produced much of the world’s most beloved art, literature and music, including that created by gay men such as Tchaikovsky and Gogol.

    2. The fact that the Olympics are taking place in Russia has definitely shined a light on these issues — the comparisons to Nazi Germany in 1936 are, for once, sadly apt.

    3. Finally, I think gay activists in the United States are starting to look outside our own country; the end of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell and the Supreme Court rulings in favor of marriage equality have allowed us to realize that ultimate victory in the U.S. is soon within reach, so that we can look to making a change around the world.

    Just my 2 cents.

  41. says

    @Wolfgang The original program was a debate about history and the present: Soviet anti-gay laws and modern Russian anti-gay laws.

    Kiselev (anti-gay) vs Nikolai Svanidze, who does historical programs on TV. Each side also has a few witnesses, and Kiselev had a priest. Svanidze points out that the law is very vague, but it points the finger at gay people as scapegoats. At the end the audience votes for who they think won. The score was about 7000 (pro gay) to 35,000 anti-gay.

  42. says

    It’s rather sad to see a debate in which intelligent and civilized people are trampled by a bunch of bigoted idiots who triumph at the end.

  43. Kev C says

    Even the most successful Russian is on the same educational level as a Ugandan witch doctor.

  44. Jay says

    Your hollow words and trivial actions mean nothing. This is Russian anti-gay power. We are powerless. Like another planet, this is another country. Steer clear of the Olympic issue. Do we really want WWIII triggered over gay sex? People will die if some idiot makes a wrong move.

  45. millerbeach says

    Nothin’ but a bunch of Godless, commie pinkos. Never will drink Russian vodka again. I WILL NOT watch the Olympic games if held in Russia, and I will actively boycott any and all American companies who support this hate-driven nation. Listen up, sponsors…don’t waste your ad $$$ on something no one will see. BOYCOTT!