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  1. AKChris says

    The end is in sight. They will finish on Monday unless NOM manages to fly in a bunch more new people. Citizens can only testify once. Expect a vote tomorrow from the committee, no idea when the full house will take it on. One speaker said she thinks one member has changed his vote from for to against equality. We shall see.

  2. says

    They’re so sad. I take satisfaction in knowing we’re winning the fight and their loss is inevitable, but how sad it must be to be such a hate-filled bigot that you’d waste a part of your life (and many of these people don’t have a lot left to waste) cementing your place in history as a bigoted relic.

  3. says

    Aka Fvckwits On Parade.

    Who gives a wet sh!t what your religious “values” are? Some people handle snakes based on the same Bible, based on scripture. Should we institute snake-handling? Or slavery, which is also biblically approved?

    No. So shut up about your religion!

  4. Rad says

    Two questions:

    1) Are all those people residents of the State?
    2) Do they just allow anyone to address the House?

    You would think they would not permit non-residents from pulling stunts like that. THis is holding up the government process.

  5. says

    How wonderful that time and energy and money is being spent working to stop gay couples from marrying. Rather than having said time energy and money being used to aid the poor, the sick, the needy, the destitute, and the families struggling to make ends meet in a time of economic uncertainty. ;

  6. Bruno says

    Signing up to speak has been closed since Thursday night. Basically, most of these people are local Mormons and some of other Christian faiths who’ve most likely been exhorted by their pastors to speak. I wouldn’t be surprised if a single email from Mormon higher-ups isn’t responsible for the bulk of the turnout. I just hope the politicians can see through this organized event.

  7. chris255 says

    For those who can’t stomach to watch this:

    Invoking prop 8, which failed miserably.

    Claiming that gays just want the people to subsidize their income through tax credits.

    Gays can’t procreate and their marriage will result in the loss of procreation productivity. That is the “danger to society”.

    If you pass this bill I am afraid of religious liberty being taken away.

  8. chris255 says

    For those who can’t stomach to watch this:

    Invoking prop 8, which failed miserably.

    Claiming that gays just want the people to subsidize their income through tax credits.

    Gays can’t procreate and their marriage will result in the loss of procreation productivity. That is the “danger to society”.

    If you pass this bill I am afraid of religious liberty being taken away.

  9. JackFknTwist says

    Tell us how you love the sinner but hate the sin.
    Tell us all that again.
    Tell us.
    Tell us.
    Tell us.
    And tell us about your respect for the Constitution and the equality of all citizens.

  10. says

    I sorta love the “gays can’t procreate therefore gay marriage will make everyone gay and the human race will cease to exist” non-argument. devil’s advocate to the stupid non-argument: everyone becomes gay, and from that point on every child born is wanted, planned for, expected. Oh darn.

  11. says

    @RAD There were also a Canadian visitor testifying opposed marriage equality and warning of the “chaos“ currently happening in Canada.

    And then a Chinese woman saying that gay marriage will cause many visitors from China and Asian countries not wanting to come to Hawaii.

    And of course Republican Rep McDermott talked about gays “bug chasers“ and “gift givers“

    And bus loads of bible-fearing church goers and their pastors, which made up of 98% of the opposed group. 2 out of the 100, who didn’t cite God in their testimoniess, were Asians who instead cited traditional Asian family. One Asian woman who opposed equality even said that in “the Asian family, the man do worka outside, the woman taka care family inside.“

  12. jamal49 says

    So, these are the last, desperate acts of the evangelical effluvia. Stifle discourse, “filibuster” the more morally upright and reasonable citizens of Hawaii from testifying in favor of marriage equality. This is the fundamentalist filth of evangelicals on full display. America must ultimately rid itself of this christian scum, this religious cancer that eats away at the American body politic, by whatever means necessary.

  13. JackFknTwist says

    Imagine ending up as a bitter old man, a one trick pony, with on one interested in your circus any more… with the world around you on social media, computer games, apps, while you try to get your pony to jump through the hoop ,one more time.

    And you are left with a empty tent except for a few die-hards with free bus passes, all as sad as yourself, clinging together, singing “Nearer my God to Thee”.
    You know where this is all going, don’t you, angry old bitter deserted ring-master ?

  14. Bill says

    @Andy: as an historical note, over a decade ago there was an article about “bug chasers” and “gift givers” in the San Francisco Chronicle. Apparently this phenomena is real but very rare. Out of San Francisco’s gay population, the people into that apparently met in some guy’s apartment in the Castro. To put that in perspective, the incidence of schizophrenia in the U.S. is 0.25 to 0.50 per thousand people, and being gay (or straight, just to cover multiple bases) does not offer protection against mental illness.

    According to the article, the parties these crazy people held were sex parties with one HIV+ participant, and with nobody knowing who was infected and who wasn’t. Everyone would pick a partner and do it.

    What the newspaper article did not mention is that with about 20 people in the room (if I recall the number correctly from an article I saw a long time ago), the chance of any one individual pairing up with the positive guy is 1 out of 19. For the highest-risk sex act, the chances of contacting HIV from an infected partner is about 1 in 100. An individual participating would thus have about a 1/2000 chance of becoming infected. That’s low enough to make it easy for some people to fool themselves, particularly if they are turned on by risky behavior.

  15. Sean says

    They only people who should be allowed to speak are Hawaiian LGBT residents since the law is about THEIR rights and nobody else. Anti-gay trash have NO say in my life.

  16. Kevin says

    I’m more worried about the rumor change of a yes vote to a no one.
    I’m still convinced there were enough yes votes or this session wouldn’t have been called.
    And by that,I meant at least 29 or 30 yes votes.
    We will have to wait and see but the legislators (even the bigoted ones) know they have a choice.
    They can pass it now or the courts will do it for them.

  17. Keith says

    Actually, I think this kind of vitriol by the NOM-supported side will actually backfire. When there is a cognitive disconnect between the rhetoric spouted by the opposing side of equality to the truth and realities of our side, truth will win out. I doubt any Representative has changed his or her “yes” to a “no” due to this testimony. . .they’ll just let them spew their vile lies, and ultimately vote for full equality with a religious exemption like other states have done.

  18. disgusted American says

    Like Wanda Sykes said to Oprah – A lot of people got married yesterday…..did it affect you? noooooo it didn’t …this is just Bigots, bloviated their hate and making fools of themselves

  19. disgusted American says

    Like Wanda Sykes said to Oprah – A lot of people got married yesterday…..did it affect you? noooooo it didn’t …this is just Bigots, bloviated their hate and making fools of themselves

  20. Me says

    Trust me you Crazy religious “Christians” and Mormons. .. WE DON’T WANT TO MARRY IN YOUR CRAZY CHURCHES! Like it or not you are an American State and in America there is a separation of church and state. This is a LEGAL issue, not a religious issue! Go back to your broken families and corrupt churches and take care of your own issues!

  21. Mousemess says

    Caliban,
    I refuse to handle snakes and I am a gay, liberal Christian. Snakes are never found in liberal Episcopalian churches. People have a right to their faiths, but they have no right to trample on the human rights and happiness of others. And each person is allowed only 1 minute each to speak. This is like it or not democracy Hawai’ian style to allow all of these people to speak. But since over 5,000 can testify, they have plenty of people and the legislature really needs to cut this off if not done so already, since the HI legislature will be paralyzed for days and more urgent HI matters cannot be dealt with meanwhile. I would have though 1,000 persons would have been enough and that should have been the cut-off point.

  22. Mousemess says

    Caliban,
    I refuse to handle snakes and I am a gay, liberal Christian. Snakes are never found in liberal Episcopalian churches. People have a right to their faiths, but they have no right to trample on the human rights and happiness of others. And each person is allowed only 1 minute each to speak. This is like it or not democracy Hawai’ian style to allow all of these people to speak. But since over 5,000 can testify, they have plenty of people and the legislature really needs to cut this off if not done so already, since the HI legislature will be paralyzed for days and more urgent HI matters cannot be dealt with meanwhile. I would have though 1,000 persons would have been enough and that should have been the cut-off point.

  23. Mousemess says

    Good thing I don’t have sound on my computer at this time. I know NOM’s hateful and extreme positions already and my life isn’t improved one bit by listening to NOM’s resident talking mouthpiece John Eastman.

  24. Dainna says

    Only registered voters should be allowed to testify to committees, like this.
    There is now proof that a very few individuals are behind this “citizen filibuster”, calling the shots and strategies for overloading the political system

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