1. Nick says

    But yet the teavangelicals continue to appear on CNN, FAUX, CBS, NBC, and ABC as experts on the “family” and “marriage”. Focus on the Family, NOM, Rick Warren, and others are continually called upon to school us on morality and family values…. when are these people going to be asked to account for their virulent anti-gay activities around the world?-half passed never would be my guess….

  2. Michaelandfred says

    This one does feel different. I think the reason being is that he unequivocally defined in his ruling what the majority of Americans now understand and believe. All the arguments that we’ve been making for years, in the minority, have now entrenched themselves in the majority opinion.

    18 states plus DC, the sky hasn’t fallen, no heterosexual family has fallen apart because of it, no children haven’t been born or heterosexual weddings canceled because gays and lesbians are being treated as the equal citizens we are.

    And the courts are agreeing and now reflecting that popular opinion.

  3. rroberts says

    This one doesn’t just feel different, it IS different. The implications for other states with gay marriage bans still in place are huge. U.S. District Court Judge Robert J. Shelby’s reasoning is a model for similar lawsuits across the board. I can’t imagine that other Federal Judges or even SCOTUS would be able to convincingly argue against his logic, nor that they would even try.

  4. jamal49 says

    @NICK I often wonder the same thing. CNN and MSNBC allow those evangelicals to come on and essentially filibuster and rarely ever challenge their lunacy and bigotry. No one ever challenges the source of their unadulterated, hateful, bigotry against gay people–the Bible. No one ever challenges their misinterpretations or their political use of that infernal collection of myths as the basis for the evangelicals interference in secular politics. It’s about time those evangelicals are challenged and challenged strongly, provocatively and unequivocally. Regardless, they shouldn’t even be permitted to appear on those news shows because they bring nothing to the debate, which is a debate that shouldn’t even exist at all but does, precisely because of that evangelical effluvia and their sycophants.

  5. gr8guyca says

    The Utah ruling is clear and concise. He looked at every argument and batted each one away. It makes great reading. In so far as Utah, it’s important because that state has one of the lowest public approvals of equal marriage rights. What the judge said was that public sentiment does not trump the basic rights found in the Constitution. That logic sounds solid and should be compelling to any other court as they face this legal question.

    Guys, the game is over. We won.

  6. RonCharles says

    Rachel Maddow says it all when she says,

    “It’s Freakin’ Utah!”

    There really is justice here that the citadel of the Mormon Theocracy that funded and promoted hatred against gays and supported hate amendment Proposition 8 in California has had equality and freedom brought to its capital and realm. It’s like seeing the Soviet Army storming Berlin after Hitler had invaded the Soviet Union.

    Kudos to US District Judge Robert Shelby for his wise and historic decision!

  7. Bill says

    @gr8guyca: the game is not over until the fat guy (Scalia) has a chance to sing. It could be appealed and what the Supreme Court might do is not cast in stone.

    What happened is very encouraging, but something could still go wrong.

  8. andrew says

    Rachel Maddow is one of the best, if not the best, talking head in the media. It is so important to have intelligent gay people like Rachel, Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon and Thomas Roberts in in the national spotlight.

  9. *****overTX says

    What amazed me about the whole thing was the sheer NUMBER of couples in Utah that were wanting to get married. I had no idea that there were so many gay people in Utah and that there was such a “market” for gay weddings in “freakin” Utah.

  10. Alexander says

    Don’t be mad at the news for displaying the oppositional viewpoint. Their hatred filled vitriol has only helped to fuel our marriage equality victories and I love how outrageous they just are.

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