Toronto Pride Boots Men's Rights Group Just Days Before Parade

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A men's rights group, The Canadian Association for Equality, had its permit to march in today's Toronto World Pride parade revoked just days ago—after the stated cutoff date for such decisions. 

From The Toronto Star:

Pride executive director Kevin Beaulieu was vague on Friday about the reasons for CAFE’s exclusion.

“There has been some concern expressed about the activities and purpose of CAFE and whether they actually match the intent they express,” he said. Asked to be more specific, Beaulieu replied, “I’m really not going to go into that.”

CAFE has faced criticism for its association with anti-feminist websites like A Voice for Men and for apparently misrepresenting itself to the Canada Revenue Agency in its successful charity-status application last year. In that case, CAFE listed women’s groups as potential members of panel discussions who denied having been approached by the organization.

Still, female members of CAFE deny that their group is sexist. “I’m a woman who’s involved in this, and we’ve been accused of being misogynist, we’ve been accused of being anti-feminist, and I can tell you I would never be involved with anything like that,” said Eleanor Levine, a Toronto social worker and member of the CAFE advisory board.

Levine also complained that Pride had broken its own rules by barring CAFE so close to the parade. Pride’s Dispute Resolution Process requires that complaints against a group be submitted by June 4, and that if a group is excluded from the parade, the decision must be made by June 21. Neither deadline was met in this case.

Today is the culmination of Toronto's 10-day WorldPride celebration. Earlier in the week 115 gay couples were married en masse, in what The Toronto Star called the largest same-sex wedding in North American history. 

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  1. So is the LGBT community going to bow down to feminist now?

    Posted by: Ryan | Jun 29, 2014 7:41:18 PM


  2. Mens rights is a joke, pride parades don't let ex gay groups march.

    Posted by: Fenrox | Jun 29, 2014 7:42:48 PM


  3. @ Ryan:

    Well there are a good number of homosexual males who have convinced themselves that they are women. Hence why they act effeminate and put on that girly persona! By the way,referring to us as "LGBT" is part of that problem!

    Posted by: Chris of lower Manhattan | Jun 29, 2014 8:00:48 PM


  4. Mens rights groups are usually covers for women-hating racist idiots who don't like that the patriarchy is being dismantled. Women involved with them are delusional and whose time would be better spent helping feminist groups.

    Posted by: Derrick | Jun 29, 2014 9:04:28 PM


  5. I'm guessing you are right Derrick. This little article is hardly in depth coverage of the issue.

    Posted by: emjayay | Jun 29, 2014 11:42:25 PM


  6. We're up and running with today's video of the San Francisco Gay Pride Parade! What a day! 750,000 hunks, studs and gorgeous men - many wearing as little as they could get away with and a few totally naked. I've put the video up for your viewing pleasure. Don't miss it! Click my name for a direct link. This is just part 1, part 2 will be up tomorrow. BTW, Tim Cook of Apple was there, at the front of Apple's contingent. They had at least 1,000 Apple employees in the parade.

    Posted by: Cary Chauvet | Jun 30, 2014 12:19:46 AM


  7. Gay men's rights are men's rights. Toronto Pride is a disgrace.

    Posted by: petey | Jun 30, 2014 12:32:26 AM


  8. Please tell me where men are being oppressed for being men. This group is as ridiculous as would be a white/caucasian rights group in the West. Men are in charge...more specifically white heterosexual men are in charge. When men experience discrimination it is not because of their maleness...but because they somehow betray the established male norms -- usually the adoption of what are seen as traditional feminine traits or roles.

    Posted by: June | Jun 30, 2014 1:02:46 AM


  9. Gay men are more oppressed than gay women. In 40 countries, female homosexuality is permitted but male homosexuality is banned. Yep, that old double standard again, which favors women but punishes men for homosexual acts.

    Gay men's rights are men's rights.

    Posted by: petey | Jun 30, 2014 2:21:34 AM


  10. Well done, Toronto pride. This group's perception of who is facing what hardships and what causes them is completely upside-down, and yes, their take on men's problems is frequently sexist and anti-feminist even though they themselves don't understand them to be. Their claims of not being sexist or anti-feminist are as true as white pride groups who genuinely feel they just want to celebrate their heritage and then feel confused and oppressed when people criticize them. Maybe they'll have more luck in joining that heterosexual pride parade I keep seeing people ask for.

    Posted by: oppressedmalealert | Jun 30, 2014 6:56:53 AM


  11. @Petey White gay people are oppressed too. And they're white, so shame on Toronto pride for not allowing white pride groups to participate in their gay pride parade. <-Your logic.

    To spell it out even more: Gay men aren't oppressed for being male, it's the gay part that society makes an issue of. This group holds sexist beliefs, like white pride groups hold racist beliefs, despite both of those groups not admitting or even agreeing that they do.

    Posted by: oppressedmalealert | Jun 30, 2014 7:03:02 AM


  12. The parade should have at least followed its own regulations and had a spokesperson who could better articulate the reasons for excluding the group. Yes, some men's rights groups are deeply misogynist, but many groups based supposedly on feminism are in fact women's rights groups who preach misandry.

    Men are discriminated against systematically in family law, and also in the allocation of medical research funding and other health practices. At the very least there shouldn't be a categorical exclusion, which on the surface is what this action looks like.

    Posted by: Bryan | Jun 30, 2014 9:17:29 AM


  13. @bryan I'm sure if there were feminist groups that preach misandry, which kind of sounds like complaints of heterophobia, they would be excluded from the parade too. There certainly aren't 'many' of those.

    The family law thing is a myth, women get custody more often because that is usually agreed during the legal proceedings by the parents. Men often get custody when they ask for it. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cathy-meyer/dispelling-the-myth-of-ge_b_1617115.html

    Medical research overwhelmingly focuses on male subjects, to the point of potentially harming women because diseases/medications work differently in their bodies and that information isn't looked into enough. http://www.sfgate.com/health/article/Medical-research-has-focused-on-males-4330773.php I don't think you can really argue men have it worse when it comes to health issues with the state of abortion rights in the US.

    All that is not to say that men shouldn't get an equal share in raising the kids (which feminism supports, boo gender roles) and men's health isn't important at all (obviously it is).

    It just means that MRAs who attack women and feminism when men experience backlash from sexist gender roles, who misrepresent the severity of misogyny and 'male oppression' and deny concepts like the patriarchy in order to prove men have it bad too, as MRAs tend to do, are completely misunderstanding the problems men face and their causes and are actually harming the cause they dubiously claim to be for, gender equality.

    MRA's are not the male feminism. You can't fix the problem until you acknowledge the problem, and MRA's have no f-ing clue what the problems are.

    Posted by: oppressedmalealert | Jun 30, 2014 10:43:34 AM


  14. The S.F. BAR Newspaper this month reports a study by the city's LGBT aging Task Force which found that 23 percent of gay men over 60 have an estimated household income above $80K, for lesbian women in the same group the percentage was 38 percent. That's a full 15 percent gap at an important time in life.

    20 percent of the lesbian women live on less than $20K, for the gay men that percent is 26. That's six percent more gay men trying to live on air.

    Is this the gender equality you want in your old age??? The stats are in the Pride Issue this month.

    Posted by: mark | Jun 30, 2014 10:52:18 AM


  15. @Mark That's why we talk about LGBT rights, as separate letters, because lesbians and gay men don't face the exact same challenges and not to the same extent. The discrimination against gay men still comes from their sexuality, not misandry. You could argue gay men suffer more homophobia than gay women, but saying they suffer from misandry is placing the blame for their oppression on the wrong concept.

    Homophobia is a mixture of many things, fear of the other, fear of 'new things' people haven't heard about before, religion, and also sexism. Ignorant straight bigots associate gay men with femininity, and lesbians with masculinity. This is how men can suffer from misogyny. For a woman to be considererd like a man is not generally accepted but is sometimes looked at as 'aspirational', while men being considered feminine is considered embarrassing and humiliating. Then there is the sexist idea that women are less sexual than men, and so women's homosexuality is less threatening than men's. This difference in lesbian and gay oppression definitely has to do with sexism, it is patriarchal ideas about women severely backlashing against gay men. Feminism is beneficial for both men and women.

    Posted by: oppressedmalealert | Jun 30, 2014 11:29:05 AM


  16. Can you imagine the same people booting a lesbian-feminist group from Pride, no matter how radican and totally anti-male their ideology might be?

    Of course, you cannot.

    This gesture just demonstrates the extent to which gay men continue to allow themselves to be bullied by lesbians and women in general.....and how deeply misguided their embrace of feminism is.

    The male culture is changing rapidly and will eventually free men from their dependence on women, emotionally, socially, and in other ways......and it is THAT change that is really resulting in the demise of male homophobia.

    Unfortunately, many gay men are either too doltish or too enmeshed in a culture of effeminacy that causes them to think of themselves as pseudo-women......and causes them, at the same time, to delude themselves into the belief that women are their friends and allies, when they are anything but......to embrace the exciting changes that are occuring among all men.

    Pathetic.

    Posted by: Rick | Jun 30, 2014 11:54:59 AM


  17. Men's right are being trampled on a lot these Days ...Rape Hysteria Extremists, Gender Feminists..are a good example...But they'll let Palestinians against Israeli Apartheid march...Good going...

    Posted by: styler | Jun 30, 2014 12:07:43 PM


  18. So the whole Pride Event was organized by women???....Hmm...

    Posted by: styler | Jun 30, 2014 12:08:18 PM


  19. Can we vote out the trannies too? Trans activists are misogynistic and violent towards women. Never understood why some gays choose to stand with a group of thugs who are mostly hetero-identified and who stalk and abuse women. As a matter of safety, they should be put out.

    Posted by: Frank | Jun 30, 2014 12:08:34 PM


  20. Then show us all your manly masculine self, Rick. Or will you choose a coward's anonymous life until you finally just die?

    Posted by: Tired | Jun 30, 2014 12:10:23 PM


  21. @rick Too much wrong with what you're saying for me to even bother. But wow @ you criticizing feminine gay men, on an article about pride, a commemoration of the stonewall riots. I couldn't help focus on that little slice of horrible.

    Posted by: oppressedmalealert | Jun 30, 2014 12:17:18 PM


  22. @frank As you are blatantly making that up, why not also make up that they were indeed excluded from the parade. Problem solved.

    Posted by: oppressedmalealert | Jun 30, 2014 12:22:55 PM


  23. Mens issues are legitimate even if this group isn't (I don't know, there isn't much to go on in this article).

    Posted by: Knock | Jun 30, 2014 3:39:20 PM


  24. @oppressedmalealert--Sounds like you are making excuses.

    Posted by: mark | Jun 30, 2014 6:29:39 PM


  25. @Mark None of what I said was 'excusing' anything. Obviously, when you want to change oppression, it's important to know who to fight against, and oppressive lesbians or whatever isn't it. I'm pointing out that neither women who want gender equality nor 'misandry' are the cause of your statistics indicating stronger discrimination against gay men. Besides what I already mentioned concerning that, ignorant people also discriminate against gay men more because of religious texts and thus religious institutions being more focused on condemning them, and because bigots equate gay men with aids, which doesn't happen to lesbians either.

    Posted by: oppressedmalealert | Jul 2, 2014 4:39:56 AM


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