07/11/2006
Kathy Griffin and "The Gays" on Larry King Live
Along with the admission that her husband Matt methodically stole $72,000 from her bank account and caused her divorce, Kathy Griffin's appearance on Larry King Live last night featured plenty of talk about "the gays" including this bit at the end. Griffin's My Life on the D-List was recently nominated for a Reality Program Prime Time Emmy.
GRIFFIN: Who do I have a girl crush on? I do love Suzanne Somers, I think she's delightful, you know her, she's awesome. And Patricia Arquette I think is really beautiful. I don't know, I think everybody's beautiful like in their way or whatever. I mean I'm not like hot for chicks, but I'm certainly not putting down people who are. And if that's your life choice Larry, I'm not here to judge you.
KING: What do you think of the new Superman?
GRIFFIN: Hot. And the gays love him.
KING: But he's not gay. He was on the show --
GRIFFIN: The gays are almost willing to dump Gyllenhaal for the new Superman. Gyllenhaal's not gay either and the gays all want him. They're done with Cruise, they've had it, he's too crazy. They've moved on to Gyllenhaal and the new Superman. You know the gays are moody. You gotta keep up...
KING: Wait a minute, are you saying there's a gay think?
GRIFFIN: There's like a Rand Corporation for gay people. They get reports together.
KING: Why isn't there a hetero think?
GRIFFIN: There is! Like, all hetero guys want to bang Jolie, right, she's like the hot thing, right? And all gay guys want to bang Gyllenhaal. They like the Brokeback.
KING: Did you like that movie?
GRIFFIN: Of course.
KING: Great movie.
GRIFFIN: I can't quit you. Of course I loved it.
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But you know, we'd never dump Gyllenhaal for Superman.
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You betta believe we won't dump Jake for anybody- Superman or not! By the way, is there any cure for beginning to like Kathy Griffin? I was more comfortable strongly disliking her on Suddenly Susan. Now, well, she's becoming very interesting to me... Is this a pathology? Should I worry?
Posted by: Nealzebub | Jul 11, 2006 9:44:23 AM
Like a lot of comics, I can take her in small doses, and she is good for an interview. That's really a pretty funny discussion! It harkens back to the "Sign up a gay, get a toaster oven" bit from "The Puppy Show" of "The Ellen Degeneres Show".
Posted by: Rad | Jul 11, 2006 9:52:23 AM
I've heard some say that her personality is soo strong that it almost feels annoying, but rather ends up coming across as a sweetheart; and the fact that she got screwed over by her ex-husband only makes her likability go up by about 25%. I generally look forward to any show with her in it heh...even Suddenly Susan one day perhaps. Is she related to Andy Dick? heheh a little ginger humor.
Posted by: Scott A | Jul 11, 2006 9:57:01 AM
Well, someone went on "Larry King" and declared they weren't gay! Whoa! It's over! Stop the debate! If Larry King teases out such a reluctant truth, it MUST BE TRUE. Because NO ONE likes to the King.
Oy.
It was a cute interview but clearly he did no research and the people who wrote his questions really didn't know much about Kathy either. The most engaged he became was when he was talking about Bob Hope (!) and when he explained that he hasn't had plastic surgery.
Posted by: J.C. | Jul 11, 2006 9:58:11 AM
Oh,come on!Like we would ever pick B Routh over jake! Please. I do love Kathy G though. Did anyone see the episode where the gay fan came on her show? It was so disapointing. I would have been thrilled to hang with her. Anyway, Jake all the way!
Posted by: chris | Jul 11, 2006 9:58:47 AM
Correction: "No one LIES to the King..." His powerful brain waves must have picked up that I was making a joke at his expense and fumbled my typing...
Posted by: J.C. | Jul 11, 2006 10:00:23 AM
For a long time I really wasn't a fan of Kathy's (thanks Suddenly Susan), but her recent comedy specials and her show on Bravo have really won me over. She's got a very quick wit about her that I enjoy. Fun stuff.
Really sad about her husband though. I liked them being together.
Posted by: Desideratum | Jul 11, 2006 10:03:48 AM
I just saw her live in Dallas, and she's hysterical! She rips everyone you can imagine, and she rips them like no one I've ever seen... then she immediately follows it up with "oh by the way, I'm totally Lawyered Up!"
She used to grate on me terribly, but her passion for The Gays, and her biting wit and willingness to skewer anyone, has won me over completely!
Posted by: Wayne | Jul 11, 2006 10:06:54 AM
What's up with Kathy calling being gay a "life choice"? Are we really still stuck in a place where people like her, who are our "friends," continue to call being gay a choice? So odd for her to say.
Posted by: Cyd | Jul 11, 2006 10:46:36 AM
J'adore Kathy Griffin. I know she's a guilty pleasure, but still... very few people on TV can consistently make me laugh out loud and she's one of them.
Posted by: Brian | Jul 11, 2006 10:49:57 AM
uhm...you guys are crazy
I never was into to jake
I pick Brandon Routh all the way every day
Tall dark and handsome
thick eyebrows....
YUM
jake just does NOT do it for me. never has
Posted by: jimmyboyo | Jul 11, 2006 10:51:42 AM
This is SO going to be my mantra for the week: "The gays are moody the gays are moody the gays are moody..."
Posted by: honey child | Jul 11, 2006 11:07:46 AM
Cyd,
I had to read the "your life choice" line again. I took as her ripping on his being so clueless. He missed 80% of her jokes. Look at his question "is there a gay think?" followed by his next question "why isn't there a hetro think?" Is this guy for real? And he interviews world leaders. Oy Vey.
I didn't care about Ms. Griffin until now. Her ripping of Ms. Huston and that bitch Star Jones is so funny. And she always pays do to "the Gays", even after being told to by the army brass on her tour.
Posted by: patrick nyc | Jul 11, 2006 11:15:57 AM
To Cyd..
Kathy was making the point that sexual orientation is NOT a life choice in a comedic way. Because she KNOWS that Larry (or anyone) never "chose" to be straight.
Posted by: rich | Jul 11, 2006 11:28:21 AM
Kathy reigns supreme and please..Jack Nasty for life!!!
Posted by: Chef Boyardee | Jul 11, 2006 11:31:18 AM
Oh, I love Kathy Griffin. Though, I would say she's started to grate on me a bit because 1) after seeing her live, watching the show, and seeing this interview, I've now heard her jokes three or four times; 2) she seems to be getting crazier and crazier, and not in a good way.
It didn't seem like a "joke" when she said it. I taped it, so I'll have to go back and watch it again. King was clueless, like interviewing Kathy was beneath him somehow and he wasn't interested. He just kept asking inane question after inane question. She has to have the best publicist in the world to get that interview (probably because of her Iraq tour).
Posted by: Cyd | Jul 11, 2006 11:32:06 AM
Jake over Superman any day. Still I would drop Jake just to be able to squeeze Hugh Jackman's ass once.
Posted by: Mike in the Tundra | Jul 11, 2006 11:39:23 AM
Kathy
I think both Gyllenhaal and Superman are not that attractive.
Really.
Guess I don't go to the right Gay Corporate Meetings.
Posted by: protogenes | Jul 11, 2006 12:00:59 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't waste time pining for hetero celebs who will never have an interest in me?
Posted by: 000000 | Jul 11, 2006 12:05:58 PM
000000:
No, you are not alone
Posted by: protogenes | Jul 11, 2006 12:13:53 PM
Cyd I agree with you. If she intended it to be a joke she didn't do a very good job of presenting it as such; especially considering the demographics of the Larry King audience. I'm sure most of his viewers heard "gay is a choice, even their friends say so".
I didn't care much for the repetitious "the gays" either.
Another observation:
Why is it that when a wife "methodically" takes $72,000 from her husband's account it's called MARRIAGE (or community property) but when a husband does the same it's called stealing?
Posted by: Zeke | Jul 11, 2006 12:19:08 PM
The Gay Rand Corp--now that's where I want to make my next career move. Do they have any openings in IS?
Posted by: TheBob | Jul 11, 2006 12:24:43 PM
What??!! Hold up.
Gyllenhaal over Routh? I think not.
Brandon is the hottest Superman ever. He doesn't even have to be super for me, I could just spend days snuggling with him, staring into those eyes.
Posted by: taylor Siluwé | Jul 11, 2006 2:21:41 PM
Agree with Cyd and Zeke. This is another unfortunate example of gays assuming that everyone "hears" people's comments about us the same way we do, or have the will or even ability to "read between the lines." Joan Rivers remains another foolish fave in that way, though Griffin would have to live a long time to be the vile, toxic shrew Rivers is. While Karen's frequent references to us as some monolithic group on "W&G" were harmless one-liners, doing entire routines about THE Gays, is bad juju in straight venues. As in THE Gay Agenda...THE gays out to destroy marriage...THE gays trying to recruit kids in school.... One of HER gays should suggest a little careful tweaking of her routine to narrow the focus (while expanding her nongay audience's understanding of our own diversity) yet keep the laughs. Hell, hasn't she been paying attention? We subcategorized ourselves decades ago: Opera Queens, Size Queens, Disco Queens, Gym Queens ad infinitum.
Posted by: Tagg | Jul 11, 2006 3:00:49 PM
Noooo...Don't make me choose!! Me likey Jake and Brandon equally. Can't I have both?!?!?!
Posted by: Rob | Jul 11, 2006 3:34:46 PM
of course we'll stick w/ Jakey and yes alot of the gays jumped away from Tom after his scientology binge.. thanks for a great blog it's on my firefox toolbar and I read it everyday!
Posted by: Pete | Jul 11, 2006 4:21:23 PM
You know, if Kathy had just used some "Britney Air Quotes" around that lifestyle choice comment, there would be no debate. That said, she was totally kidding.
People mentioned here about the point of lusting after hetero celebs who they'll never meet. Well, lusting after gay celebs isn't going to get you anywhere either; however, I will say that if you live in New York or LA or somewhere similiar, you definitely have a chance. I speak from experience.
Posted by: Jake | Jul 11, 2006 4:37:35 PM
here's my beef - what's with all the ripping on "suddenly susan"? seriously - I liked that show! kathy was the witty stinkbomb, a.dick was stoopid funny, brooke was the updated Mary Tyler Moore and oh my goodness - TWO hotties in that office -- that smouldering Latin hunk and the one that was supposed to be the naive, inept cutie - who in real life committed suicide. he was a true hottie - and when hearing of his death, I always wondered if it wasn't related to some sexuality issue.
so - quit knocking the "SS"!
Posted by: resurrect | Jul 11, 2006 10:12:56 PM
Suddenly Susan hottie update: Nestor Carbonel was Luis and David Strickland (RIP) was Todd
Posted by: resurrect | Jul 11, 2006 10:17:37 PM
dump Jakey for this new Superman guy?! Are you freaking kiddin' me?!!
Posted by: Jeff | Jul 11, 2006 11:00:28 PM
Quote:"Am I the only one who doesn't waste time pining for hetero celebs who will never have an interest in me?"
Don't confuse "pining" with "fantasy". So what if he is hetero, 00000? Lord knows I have had crushes on guys in the past that turned out to be gay!
And if he was gay, do you honestly think he will suddenly become more "available" to you? I know my crush on Liam Neeson doesn't mean that he is any more available to me.
Lighten up.
Posted by: Lady Heather | Jul 12, 2006 2:58:39 AM
"What's up with Kathy calling being gay a 'life choice'? Are we really still stuck in a place where people like her, who are our 'friends,' continue to call being gay a choice? So odd for her to say."
Why isn't it a choice? Perhaps my attraction to members of the same gender is biologically determined, but my decision to accept that fact and live without guilt about my sexuality was, and is, certainly a conscious one.
Posted by: Colin | Jul 12, 2006 6:57:40 AM
Love Kathy! Her "Today" show interview with Al Roker won me over completely...
Posted by: jmg | Jul 12, 2006 9:46:07 AM
"Why isn't it a choice? Perhaps my attraction to members of the same gender is biologically determined, but my decision to accept that fact and live without guilt about my sexuality was, and is, certainly a conscious one." -- Colin
Colin, I agree with you 100%. I personally use "homosexual" to refer to sexual orientation and "gay" to refer to a person who acknowledges and accepts (to whatever degree) his/her homosexuality. "Homosexual" is an innate orientation and "gay" is an expression of homosexuality that many choose to repress. A homosexual oriented man can get married, have ten kids and never have sex with another man. It makes him no less homosexual, but I wouldn't call him "gay". To some it seems like splitting hairs but the distinction is important to me. By these definitions "gay" is, to a large extent, a "choice".
My point, and I think the point of many others here, is not necessarily an issue with Kathy's words as much as it is an issue with her choice of words relative to the Larry King audience. You and I may see and understand the differences in and differentiate between "orientation" and "expression" but I doubt 98% of King's audience does.
I don't want to come down too hard on Kathy. She is a comedian. It is not her job or responsibility to carry our banner. However, I do wish our friends would understand the power and responsibility of their unique soapbox (if only in the fact that more people have an opportunity to hear their opinions) and be more thoughtful of their word choices and the messages that they send. Never underestimate or laugh off the power of the spoken word. They are powerful and their use, or misuse makes a difference.
Posted by: Zeke | Jul 12, 2006 9:54:15 AM
Correction...
"homosexually" oriented man.
Damn adverbs!
Posted by: Zeke | Jul 12, 2006 9:58:20 AM
Have you seen the latest "D list" celebrity pilot on bloghungry.com ?!
Posted by: Carrie Fisher | Jul 13, 2006 12:14:11 AM
Why does Jake get all the attention? Yes, he's adorable and all, but Heath's the man!
Posted by: Tom | Jul 13, 2006 2:29:56 AM
Saw her live last month in Seattle, thank the gods! She is UNBELIEVABLE! 2 hours of non-stop high-energy attack by a comedy machine-gun. I was doubled-over with laughter the entire time, and completely wrung out by the end. Don't judge her by the annoying character on "Suddenly Susan"; she has waaaay more going on than that. Check out her various Bravo TV comedy specials.
Posted by: MarkyMark | Jul 18, 2006 3:59:26 AM
"Why isn't it a choice? Perhaps my attraction to members of the same gender is biologically determined, but my decision to accept that fact and live without guilt about my sexuality was, and is, certainly a conscious one."
Well said Colin! That sums up my feelings exactly.I hope you don't mind if I use it myself next time I'm asked if I choose to be Gay. I used to tell people that no it wasn't a choice but if it was I would choose to be gay considering all my straight, childhood friend all are married to large womem, living in mobile homes, driving pick up trucks with confederated flags in the windows crying in their mason jars full of Doctor Pepper that their childrens don't look like them ;-)
Posted by: Brian | Jul 18, 2006 9:57:11 AM
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