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John McCain: Gays are Welcome to Marry, Just Not Legally

McCain on Hardball with Chris Matthews:

"I think gay marriage should be allowed if there's a ceremony kind of thing if you want to call it that. I don't have any problem with that..."

Before your jaw drops too far, McCain went on to say "I think private ceremonies are fine. I do not think gay marriage should be legal."

And blacks can sit in the front of the bus, just as long as it's the back and they're pretending it's the front.

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  1. Well, clutch the pearls. It's almost like McCain is saying what folks do in private is fine with him as long as he doesn't have to hear about it. Sort of like saying "It's okay to be gay, I just don't want to know if you have sex." I guess that's the true meaning of "tolerance."

    Posted by: Alan W | Oct 19, 2006 3:14:20 PM


  2. McCain is a pig.

    Posted by: cowboyNEOK | Oct 19, 2006 3:18:49 PM


  3. Re: Russ Feingold for gay marriage

    Well good! Let's hope he does indeed run for president. And does not backslide on his comment once in the race.

    Posted by: Pompeius | Oct 19, 2006 3:47:29 PM


  4. What other group holds such power that it is blamed for the war in Lebanon, Katrina, 9/11, Halloween, disco and the loss of two major US elections in a row: the last presidential election by Democrats AND, one hopes, the upcoming send-them-packing (everyone don't forget to vote) defeat of the Republicans in both houses.

    While clearly we don't have the power to do all that, we do have some real power, and some accrued mythical power, and not just for the wedding parties we can throw ourselves. It's time to use the real power we have to push Hillary, Dean, Kerry, Gore and the rest of the dems to do what's right--to take the righteous actions in support of our equal rights so that they might then lay more legitimate claim to our support. (and assuring their questionable legacies)
    This double speak from McCain is what could lose him the election. It was what actually had the power to bring down Kerry in the last election. Hillary's lack of authenticity as pointed out regularly by Arianna Huffington and her coyness on gay issues promises to do the same thing if she's given the chance to run and hasn't gotten less coy by then. (As might Ms. Clinton's well-known and long-held position that democrats must not openly and unequivocably support gay and lesbian issues if they want to win, going so far as to blame her shortsighted unpolitic attempt to change healthcare on the gays in the military issue and staying away from support ever since.)

    Posted by: Michael | Oct 19, 2006 4:03:04 PM


  5. ...but, isn't McCain like, 3,000 years old? Isn't that like electing an artifact for Prez?

    Posted by: Derrick | Oct 19, 2006 4:03:51 PM


  6. Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but the putting the bitter in the irony of his talking out of both sides of his scarred mouth is that he spoke at a memorial service in Berkeley for gay Republican Mark Bingham shortly after Bingham and others prevented Flight 93 from making it to DC. Praised him to high heaven, no pun intended, but, of course, didn't add, "But if he were still alive I would fight to keep him from being able to legally marry another man."

    I often think of McCain when various Towlerodents brand me as blindly partisan. Unlike McCain, I wouldn't support the Party I typically favor NO MATTER WHAT. But McCain, as mentioned above was point blank lied about by Bush brown shirts when they were competing for the GOP nomination. Worse still, they were their favorite kind of lies—those which exploit the lowest in people, in this case racism. They suggested that he had sired a black child [oh, the horror] out-of-wedlock [oh, the horror] possibly with a prostitute [triple horror], when, in fact, he only has an adopted black daughter. In addition, they made his wife who had had a serious, reckless problem at one time with prescription drugs sound like a crack whore. So, every time I see him stumping for Bush or praising him at their conventions I projectile vomit in disbelief.

    Posted by: Leland | Oct 19, 2006 4:16:29 PM


  7. We need and HAVE to get rid of RepubliCON scum like McCain this November 2006.

    Enough with trying to push America back to a time that was not about DEMOCRACY and "justice and freedom for all".

    WE THE PEOPLE have to get rid of them now, and make the Congress and Senate Democratic.

    Posted by: FunMe | Oct 19, 2006 4:16:55 PM


  8. What a hypocrite. All he is doing is pandering to theocons. You can't have your cake and eat it too, McCain!

    Posted by: Karim | Oct 19, 2006 4:18:53 PM


  9. Mitch, YOU are an asshat.

    Tis all.

    Posted by: Vous | Oct 19, 2006 4:34:14 PM


  10. Please keep in mind that John McCain was elected to fill Barry Goldwater's old Senate seat. You remember Barry Goldwater, he was the guy who wanted to nuke the world in the name of peace. There's a reason McCain was elected to the seat he has and it's not because he's all "warm and fuzzy"...

    Posted by: Robert In WeHo | Oct 19, 2006 4:39:13 PM


  11. McCain is not running this year.

    If Mass eliminates its mescegenation law, DOMA will still allow other state to not recognize the marriages performed there. Any married gay couple that moves from Mass to say, Montana, will no longer be married. It gets weird because of full faith and credit, which cannot be undone by law but only constitutional amendments, hasn't been tested on this one and probably will, which of course will help sponsor the marriage amendment pushed by Bush et al; and even weirder: if the ex-married Montana couple now moves back to Mass, are they still married? What if they move to a state that did not have gay marriage but did not apply DOMA either? I believe that the courts have said that states need not recognize contracts from other states if a Fed statute provides an exemption, but I could be wrong.

    Posted by: Anon | Oct 19, 2006 4:46:57 PM


  12. McCain, as usual for a Republican, has it all wrong. Gays should be allowed to marry legally...but the churches should get to decide whether or not they will honor the unions. And if the churches decide they don't want to honor the unions, fine...fuck 'em!

    Posted by: peterparker | Oct 19, 2006 5:55:18 PM


  13. Um, calm down guys. What McCain is actually saying in fact may greatly helps the case (to keep it alive, you see?!)! You queens MUST read between his lines! He has just lowered the caliber of the whole issue to a legal one, not some religious, moralistic crap pot. This is a "conservative" I can respect. He is gay-friendly to say that, but he is basically not going to ire the straight populations (conservative or not, GOP or not, and leftwing or not). Keep in mind, there are MORE straight people in this world, and it's great to have a Republican like John that doesn't spew dumbass hatred, OK???!!!

    Posted by: jason | Oct 19, 2006 6:41:54 PM


  14. john mccain said that if the democrats wins he is going to kill himself.

    seems a bit dramatic. i do think it will help him win president in 08.

    jackejett

    Posted by: jackejett | Oct 19, 2006 7:32:13 PM


  15. I used to admire McCain as the less offensive of our two AZ Senators. Now I think he is about as admirable as pond scum.

    Posted by: homer | Oct 19, 2006 8:01:35 PM


  16. Sorry Vous that my argument reduces you to name calling because you don't know if I'm in favor of gay marriage or not.

    I'm making the point that blacks don't support gays much less gay marriage and the average American simply does not equate gay rights with black civil rights. You may not like that, but it's the truth. We need to try some new arguments 'cause the ones we're using now are systematically failing to secure us new rights and your black and hispanic brothers that call themselves Democrats turn against us at every election aligning with the far right to screw us over.

    Besides, your not even man enough to post with your email address so seriously...move on.

    Posted by: Mitch | Oct 19, 2006 8:37:30 PM


  17. And I'd also like to add that I would suck McCain off in a heartbeat! =)

    Posted by: jason | Oct 20, 2006 12:38:32 PM


  18. just remember folks, any time a straight person uses the "sanctity of marriage" argument to make their case against same sex marriage, point out to them that neither the federal government or the state governments are in the business of sanctifying anything. end of that argument.

    Posted by: paul bartoloni | Oct 21, 2006 12:31:08 PM


  19. Sanctity of marriage = status of marriage. It's a "Sneetches on the beaches" kind of thing for them.

    Posted by: Anon | Oct 21, 2006 5:26:24 PM


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