11/03/2006
Mike Jones Fails Lie Detector Test on Ted Haggard But Test Administrator Doubts Test's Accuracy
Mike Jones, the gay escort who claims he had a three-year sexual business relationship with evangelical pastor Ted Haggard, failed to pass a lie detector test administered early this morning, but the test's accuracy is already begin questioned:
"The test administrator, John Kresnik, said Jones' score indicated 'deceptions' in his answers. However, Kresnik said he doubted the accuracy of the test he administered because of the recent stress on Jones and his inability to eat or sleep, according to KHOW producer Greg Hollenback. Kresnik suggested that Jones be re-tested early next week after he was rested."
Here is Good Morning America's coverage (via AmericaBlog) of the Haggard scandal which was run this morning. Jones claims that a fantasy Haggard told him about was "to have sex with about 6 young college guys ranging from 18 to 22 in age."
The shots above are from Mike Jones' "massage" business page.
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What the fuck? Haggard has already resigned, so it must be true. Strange indeed!
Posted by: wtf | Nov 3, 2006 12:57:21 PM
I dunno, it's funny but I myself, have my doubts about Mike Jones'story. I guess it's because of the timing...So first Foley, and then that other guy and now a very homophobic televangelist? Who's next? Bush?
Posted by: Shabaka | Nov 3, 2006 1:07:17 PM
Just because the timing is so "convenient" doesn't mean it's not true. The fact that Haggard resigned so quickly tells me more than the timing.
Posted by: Daniel | Nov 3, 2006 1:15:16 PM
I wonder if Mike's massages include "full release"?
Posted by: chrisb | Nov 3, 2006 1:19:39 PM
Polygraphs are notoriously unreliable and are per se inadmissible in courts in many states.
Posted by: sam | Nov 3, 2006 1:22:27 PM
Sam's exactly right. His "failure" means nothing...just like his "passing" wouldn't have meant much either. Years of trying and so-called polygraph "experts" have yet to convince courts that they can with any reliability distinguish a true answer from a false one.
Haggard's resignation speaks a helluva lot louder than this phony test.
Posted by: Glenn | Nov 3, 2006 1:25:24 PM
I thought the point of hiring slut boy was for him to be quiet. (sic)
Posted by: m | Nov 3, 2006 1:26:20 PM
What, no comments about the hunky pictures?
Posted by: John | Nov 3, 2006 1:29:19 PM
Aww, why didn't you post Mike Jones' hilarious "X-mas Surprise" picture?? A cuddly stuffed Santa bear 'tastefully' eclipsing his giant gluteus man-crack. A perfect holiday treat right before the elections!
http://hometown.aol.com/mfjmfjmfj/images/xmas.gif
Posted by: Jethro | Nov 3, 2006 1:33:16 PM
Haggard has seemingly admitted some of the allegations to his fellow churchies - specifics still unkown - so there's fire below all the smoke.
Posted by: Marco | Nov 3, 2006 2:04:17 PM
OH MY GOD.... He is DIGGING HIS HOLE SO DEEP!
He called Mike Jones for crystal but he THREW IT AWAY!! He found out about Mike Jones JUST for a massage as a referral from a hotel...
Oh my god, you couldnt write this shit.
Posted by: mark m | Nov 3, 2006 2:09:27 PM
^Haggard was just interviewed on camera... sorry forgot to mention that.
Posted by: mark m | Nov 3, 2006 2:10:35 PM
If the guy were INNOCENT, he wouldn't have to resign, and in such haste too, would he? Seems like pretty straightforward deduction to me.
Posted by: just sayin' | Nov 3, 2006 2:12:23 PM
Does it matter whether it is true or not now?
I believe that it is. Haggard has been brought down and has admitted to some wrongdoing given his position and the views of his congregation.
Moreover, this will likely impact some Evangelicals in that they will be disillusioned from voting.
Either way it has taken the focus off of Kerry.
Posted by: poodle | Nov 3, 2006 2:15:39 PM
It gets better for the GOP!
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/11/rnc_accepts_mon.html
Posted by: Crixi Van Cheek | Nov 3, 2006 2:20:15 PM
Mark M,
Do you have a link to that?
Posted by: Jethro | Nov 3, 2006 2:20:15 PM
Sorry Jethro... I just caught the interview live on CNN
Posted by: mark m | Nov 3, 2006 2:21:51 PM
Poodle,
But you know the traditional media is doing their damndest to keep the Kerry story in the spotlight by order of their puppetmasters, the RNC.
Posted by: Tread | Nov 3, 2006 2:30:56 PM
Haggard just admitted, in an interview on CNN, that he tried to buy Meth from Mike Jones. But he said he didn't use it.
He also said that he didn't have gay sex with Jones.
So, to summarize: "I didn't inhale, and I did not have sex with that man."
We've heard this before somewhere.
Posted by: Joe | Nov 3, 2006 2:31:27 PM
Dear Lord that was an awkward interview! And was that his wife in the passenger seat? Poor crazy Christian gal. He admits to buying meth but never used it (?), and went to have a "massage" from Mr. Jones, but didn't have sex with him. I wonder if he found Jones through his website...you know, the one where he says he has "the pleasure of the MAN in mind" and has a picture of himself naked with a stuffed animal against his ass. Is this a Swedish technique I haven't heard of? Oh there is certainly fire under this smokescreen.
http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=af1bbeba-0abe-421a-01e2-01ca2e4711bd&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf
Posted by: Jethro | Nov 3, 2006 2:31:33 PM
PS. I wouldn't mind getting a massage from Jones. Yesterday's photos were unflattering. Todays are much better.
Posted by: Tread | Nov 3, 2006 2:32:57 PM
UPDATE: "I called him to buy some meth, but I threw it away."
Direct quote from Haggard, from A CNN affiliate.
Mike Jones is live on CNN right now.
Posted by: Joe | Nov 3, 2006 2:35:46 PM
Just saw Jones on MSNBC. As the above poster have mentioned, he called a gay prostitute/escort for a "massage" (no day spas in Denver?) and bought the meth and tossed it.
Someone better get in there and take Haggard's shovel away before he digs himself any deeper. As is, he's about 20 feet from the Earth's core.
Posted by: Marco | Nov 3, 2006 2:54:16 PM
A lying ho is a lying ho.
Posted by: CaliNexus | Nov 3, 2006 2:55:12 PM
Correction: a lying church ho...
Posted by: CaliNexus | Nov 3, 2006 2:56:15 PM
Just posted by the NYT:
Christian Leader Admits to Some Accusations
The Rev. Ted Haggard, the former president of the National Association of Evangelicals and one of the nation’s most influential Christian leaders, admitted today that he had purchased the illegal drug methamphetamine from a gay escort in Denver, but denied that he ever had sex with the man.
Bitch Pleeeeze. You did crystal, but you didn't suck dick?????
Posted by: lexxicuss | Nov 3, 2006 2:57:26 PM
Christians are so pervy. My ex-partner was the head of the Exodus program (ex-gay ministry) at a Church in California for 6 years. He fucked every male that entered the program. He had this real twisted sermon he used on them before each fucking. This entire procedure he had learned from some other church member.
Posted by: ggreen | Nov 3, 2006 3:00:54 PM
Now the story is he admits to purchasing the meth but not doing it and also to getting a massage from Jones but not any sex.
This just gets better and better. Rehab is just around the corner. You watch.
Posted by: JR | Nov 3, 2006 3:02:30 PM
OMG, the "reverend" said he was tempted, but he didn't use the meth and he didn't use the penis. I find this very hard to believe. If the "reverend" is so in touch with his christian self, how is it he was tempted by both meth and the penis at the same time. I think Satan must have been sitting on his shoulder, prompting him..."Go on, go on, you know you want take that meth and have a big cock shoved up your ass, just do it." What a crock. The "reverend" is a hypocrit.
Posted by: Bill | Nov 3, 2006 3:07:59 PM
Yeah I was an Evangelical Christian once but I fantasized about the boys in the shower or maybe at most a hand job from my best bud.
I didnt crave hard drugs and seek the services of a prostitute.
He wasn't simply "tempted".... HE IS A FREAK.
Posted by: mark m | Nov 3, 2006 3:11:35 PM
On the CNN interview they just showed, the copy at the bottom of the screen said Pastor Admits to "Meth Message." Oh, please let this phrase enter the popular lexicon.
Posted by: chrisb | Nov 3, 2006 3:19:11 PM
Mike Jones looks much better with his clothes off.
Posted by: Daniel | Nov 3, 2006 3:28:37 PM
I'm waiting for cute young guys from his congregation to come forward.
Posted by: sam | Nov 3, 2006 3:36:32 PM
Imagine what one could do with Haggard's cellphone records -- or Jones' records. Haggard might want to rephrase his "admission", and soon.
Posted by: rob adams | Nov 3, 2006 3:36:50 PM
I was reared [no pun intended] in a church very similar to Haggard's [the founder of his alma mater, Oral Roberts, once tried unsuccessfully to heal my paralyzed father] and I can tell you that the admitted Meth angle to this is just as shocking to his faithful, if not more, than the alleged homo sex part. Holy Rollers were rabidly antidrug long before homohysteria rose to the top of their agenda. Cigarettes and alcohol alone are traditionally considered sinful. And, however alien they might be to you, learn about how huge and powerful they are at
http://harpers.org/SoldiersOfChrist-20061103288348488.html including a now all the more fascinating description of what could be called homoerotic art work on display in Haggard's buildings.
As "redemption" and "salvation" are major tenets, however, if he plays this right, he'll have far more success in salvaging his power than Foley could ever hope to as his followers were secular. Still, and for this I praise Judy, some will drift away because they forever see him as a hypocrite, which is at least as bad in this cult's eyes as sucking cock any day. More important than this likely, relatively insignificant flaking off is that it has turned the antigay evangelical politicos upside down, and will, hopefully, keep them out of balance through 2008.
BTW: his silver and blue 12,000 member megachurch is directly across the highway from the US Air Force Academy. I'm just sayin'......
Posted by: Leland | Nov 3, 2006 3:59:48 PM
Thomas Blackshear's paintings are totally homo, no ifs, ands, or butts. And as Leland points out, these are hanging on Pastor Ted's church walls! What impeccable taste you have, Mr. Haggard.
http://www.g1media.com/images/store/largethevessel.jpg
http://www.quitsearching.com/images/mysins.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/mbrown52/images/_nb_mediaFrames/1035NightInDay.jpg
Posted by: GBM | Nov 3, 2006 4:12:17 PM
In case you did not get the gist.. i didnt
Jones said he decided to go public because he was also upset when he discovered Haggard and the New Life Church had publicly opposed same-sex marriage.
"It made me angry that here's someone preaching about gay marriage and going behind the scenes having gay sex," he said.
"I just want people to step back and take a look and say, 'Look, we're all sinners, we all have faults, but if two people want to get married, just let them, and let them have a happy life,'" said Jones, who added that he isn't working for any political group.
Posted by: M | Nov 3, 2006 4:31:26 PM
So Ted said he bought Meth and then threw it away. Did he buy it and throw it away twice? Or multiple times? Because the voicemails with his voice say "Hey, I was just calling to see if we could get ANY MORE. Either $100 or $200 supply." Journalists interviewing Haggard should be calling him out on his lies and getting to the bottom of this.
Posted by: GBM | Nov 3, 2006 5:15:16 PM
GBM, you are spot on! But since when did the media ask effective follow-ups?
And those paintings!!! Good Lord!
I have to tell you -- and don't take this the wrong way, please -- has made me think about my dad. What would he, the textbook example of a conservative, man's man, state champion football QB, make of walking into a church and being confronted with that art and reverend gayface/cocksucker lip/nelly-voiced Ted Haggard? He would have grabbed us kids up and taken us to the nearest Episcopal church (which is what he actually did LOL).
Between Haggard and Parsley ("I got sprinkled with Parsley today, mommy"), how can these parishioners be comfortable? Aren't they wondering about a possible (heh heh) BACKstory with these queens? Isn't anybody going to that church with functioning gaydar?
Hell, when I was 12 years old I met a priest once at my aunt's house and actually told him to "shut up" and ran away from him out of the room. Everyone apologized profusely to the priest and I got a major whipping. About 5 years later he left the priesthood after being busted for feeling up kids. You just KNOW these things sometimes...surely the members of the church, some of them, will have a hindsight revelation...
Posted by: Becks07 | Nov 3, 2006 5:59:10 PM
Yes Jones is a lying whore. The real story is the fact that Haggard is a lying self hating false Christian. Jones by the way says he never did Meth with Haggard, that he does not use drugs at all, yea and he and Barry Bonds got those bodies in the gym. He is the one who should be paying to have sex.
I am not one to enjoy the suffering of anyone who is in pain, but Haggard is clearly out of the reach of that range. He is either still on drugs or so twisted that he feels nothing.
Posted by: patrick nyc | Nov 3, 2006 6:01:32 PM
Hey gang,
Let's not resort to "judging" this too early. It's a pretty sad story either way. I'll be really pissed if I find out that it's just a political attack. The way to "win" isn't by stooping down to the level of setting somebody up.
Posted by: Bill Sarasota | Nov 3, 2006 6:19:08 PM
Now that Mr. Haggard has admitted that "some" of the allegations are true, I hope Mrs. Haggard has the sense and courage to get herself tested for HIV or any other STDs. Mike Jones is the only escort we know of so far that Mr. Haggard has hired. Once a month, over three years?
Meth? Poppers? "Massage"? Escort service?
If I were Mrs. Haggard I'd be down at the clinic getting myself tested, and pronto.
Posted by: DB | Nov 3, 2006 6:23:12 PM
He is guilty as HELL! I wonder how many closeted Christians are out there???
Check out my comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4vp67Lo5jU#GU5U2spHI_4
Posted by: Scott | Nov 3, 2006 6:40:40 PM
well, having come from the background and seeing "behind the scenes" and being a "star" as a young adult and living a double life myself between platform and private....I know what happens.
Fortunately, I got honest with myself one day and got out, knowing that to deceive others is to live in hell.
The good thing about this is that another "Christian Leader" will bite the dust.
It would be best for anyone who truly knows Christ personally to just shut up and live it. That's what I think.
Now, when I f___ up I only do it to myself and can make amends and move on a lot easier.
And I like myself now.
And both of my kids love me and respect me even though they know I've done some bad things in my life.
The problem isn't what he did; it's the hypocrisy as most of you have already noted.
Just cut him some slack. He went too long with the image. He may never be able to get honest with himself.
Anyone who has is better for it.
Posted by: SPS | Nov 3, 2006 6:47:15 PM
Please send your comments to my church:
Pastor Ted Haggard
New Life Church
11025 Voyager Parkway
Colorado Springs, CO 80921
Phone: 719-594-6602
Fax: 719-548-9000
Email: thaggard@newlifechurch.org
Posted by: td | Nov 3, 2006 7:18:00 PM
God Loves him so much to expose him so he can get right with God. God loves those whom he chastend! We all have dirt in our lives that we hid that God want to clean us of.
Posted by: Toure Clark | Nov 3, 2006 9:49:08 PM
I will not cut him ANY slack. He didn't cut me, my family or my community any slack we he was demonizing, marginalizing and oppressing US. He's still lying through his teeth and selling the same old self-righteous snake oil he always has. Why should we cut him any slack at this point? He’s going to have to come clean, show some remorse and beg for forgiveness before he can expect to be cut ANY slack.
It's clear that the sheep at New Life Church have discovered Towleroad and have descended upon us to defend their shepherd.
Interesting how they will defend a closeted gay man who is cheating on his wife, sleeping with prostitutes and doing drugs but they think that honest, out, tax-paying, law-abiding, committed gay couples who want to be legally married are a threat to all things holy.
That REALLY is a twisted view of Christianity!
Posted by: Zeke | Nov 3, 2006 10:25:48 PM
Totally off topic but Neil Patrick Harris (Doogie Howser) just officially came out to "People" online only two days after his agent denied it.
http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fs%2Fap%2F20061104%2Fap_on_en_tv%2Fpeople_neil_patrick_harris
Posted by: Zeke | Nov 3, 2006 10:50:19 PM
That link doesn't work. Just go to perezhilton.com (yeah, I know, sterilize the computer afterwards) or other celeb sites.
Posted by: anon | Nov 4, 2006 1:27:08 AM
OK, all I can say is I have been friends with Mike Jones for over 23 years. I have never known Mike to lie or do drugs, much less deal in drugs. He has always been a natural bodybuilder and even shuns aspirin.
As for me I believe Mike's story even though I have not spoken to him directly concerning this. Mike has no reason to set someone up. So as far as name calling and second guessing goes let's all wait for the fat lady to sing. This story is not over yet.
Posted by: JB | Nov 4, 2006 2:24:30 AM
Cell phone records.
Just wait.
Posted by: rob adams | Nov 4, 2006 12:59:27 PM
When faced with 2 accusations: doing drugs or sexing a man, the good pastor decides that the lessor of two evils is the drug charge. What does that say about our society?
Proven Lies so far:
1. Everything Mike Jones said is false and I never met him.
2. Oh wait, I might have met Jones via a Denver hotel referral.
3. You have a tape of my voice? Oh, I just remembered that I bought drugs, but I threw them away.
Lies still pending:
1. I didnt take the drugs.
2. I didnt have sex with that man.
3. I just had "a massage" from him.
4. I am faithful/steady with my wife (poor lady - I feel bad for her and the kids).
You know, it would be easy for Haggard to prove he threw away the drugs. He should go to a clinic and pee in a cup like anyone who has ever applied for a job at Home Depot. It is a simple test.
C'mon pastor. Pee in the cup. Or is that just the latest lie?
Posted by: Chad | Nov 4, 2006 7:03:52 PM
Chad, to answer your first question: I don't know how old you are but in the early days of the AIDS epidemic people who were diagnosed HIV positive would go into melt down to explain to everyone that they were intravenous heroine addicts who frequented prostitutes but were NOT GAY.
Magic Johnson called a press conference to inform America that he was not gay and that he contracted the disease from one of the hundreds of women and prostitutes he had slept with over the years.
So the answer to your question: It says that our society finds drug abuse, heterosexual promiscuity and prostitution morally and ethically superior to being gay.
Posted by: Zeke | Nov 4, 2006 7:57:45 PM
U know - all this stuff is about Bush's incest survivor energy that is coloring all of America. The little boy who put firecrackers up the asses of frogs, Abu Gharib, Donkey dick Gannon the 'reporter', TH - the 'spiritual advisor
Posted by: Carlosjii | Nov 5, 2006 3:48:32 AM
Don't be so quick to read something in to Haggard's resignation. Regardless of whether he did the things he's accused of, the damage to his church is already done. He may very well just be protecting the church against further turmoil.
Posted by: Concerned | Nov 5, 2006 10:13:31 AM
Zeke, you have a flair for stating the obvious. Of course drug abuse, heterosexual promiscuity, and prostitution are morally and ethically superior to being gay. What are you, some kind of a moron ? At least TRY to come up with something to post that isn't intuitively obvious to the most casual of observers.
Posted by: Concerned | Nov 5, 2006 10:20:37 AM
Concerned: in fact Haggard was dismissed (read 'fired') from his position because the oversight committee found that "without a doubt" he had committed sexual indiscretions. Read into that.
Posted by: GBM | Nov 5, 2006 11:13:06 AM
The failing of the lie detector test is absolutely meaningless. Those tests prove NOTHING. Anyone with a nervous condition, too much caffeine (or SURPRISE any STIMULANT like METH) would fail the test. I'm surprised that this wasn't brought up in more of the media reports on Jones's "failure". Lie detectors are NOT science. A polygraph ONLY MEASURES NERVOUS RESPONSES. Haggard lied about knowing Jones. He looked for a "massage" from a listing where MALE ESCORTS advertise. Then he BUYS crystal meth. People, it is OBVIOUS that Jones is telling the truth. As far as him being a "lying ho" -I understand taking money for sex. The exchange of a service for compensation is fine as far as I am concerned. The "moral outrage" that people feel against sex workers comes from the same pages of the bible that they use to justify hatred against gay people.
Posted by: Lukey | Nov 5, 2006 2:31:34 PM
I am pretty certain that I know "Jones". If he is who I think he is, I think that means that Haggard is a bottom. Otherwise their "meetings" were all about oral sex (which some men do not consider "sex" at all). Just some stream of consciousness rambling on my part...
Posted by: Lukey | Nov 5, 2006 2:43:51 PM
This whole story rings FAKE!!!. It seems now all one has to do is scream FAG and right away a person or people's lives can be destroyed. While I don't know what really happened with this Haggard guy, I do know that a way of controlling people is to claim them as gay or pedophilic, or drug addicted. I kinds thought people would be more alarmed at the killing of 600,000+ innocent people, I thought people would be outraged knowing that another nation was/is attacked based on LIES!, I thought people would be outraged over poor education, over job outsourcing, over home prices, over gas prices and profits...maybe I am the ODD ONE...cause I have more to worry about than what a preacher and a pathetic massage therapist supposedly did. JMO
Posted by: JMO | Nov 6, 2006 1:41:00 PM
Mike is hot hot and handsome, i would like to know which months and year he appeared in honcho, mens health inches and playgirl , if somebody knows i appreciate the info
vulcanizalco@yahoo.com
thanks!!!!!
Posted by: vulcan | Nov 7, 2006 7:42:52 PM
Now with the election results in with the passing of Amendment 43 and failure of Referendum I, we need to reflect. These are basic civil rights issues that are continually confused with moral issues. Gay people love as straight people love. Gay people pay taxes as straight people do. Why should gay people continue paying taxes to a state or federal government that refuses to protect our civil rights?! We need to stand in love of our selves and one another and do what we can do to be seen and heard. Denying them our money as a collective measure by all gay and lesbian people, would let them now our strength and our numbers. We MUST make noise in ways that demonstrates our integrity and our right to LOVE. I think Mike Jones did what he thought was best but I believe his coming forward with his experience only hurt our image. Now the religious right will have more evidence (gays are drug users/pushers and prostitutes) to justify their irrational reasons for denying us our civil rights.
Posted by: JN | Nov 9, 2006 9:40:43 AM
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(Ted Haggard's Male Escort)
www.mikejonesphotographs.com
Mike Jones was the paid escort & masseur for 3 years to Evangelist Ted Haggard, ex-pastor of the New Life Church and ex-president of the National Association of Evangelicals.
For Nude Photographs of Mike Jones, Please Visit: www.mikejonesphotographs.com
Posted by: marc | Nov 9, 2006 2:20:07 PM
Ted Haggard is a total liar. Anyone who had bought meth knows that it is costly. It is NOT tic tat or M & N chocolate. Even if you do NOT want to use it, you do NOT throw it away. You keep it in a safe place and put it aside. It is complete baloney that he throw the meth away. He himself also admitted that he is a liar and deceiver. Doesn't that tell us the truth? Why does his followers still believe and trust him with his preachers? I believe that those homophobic straight people simply choose to be ignorant. I also feel that the American Psychology Association has NOT done enough. It was clearly stated in their study and research that homosexuality is NOT illness and should NOT be treated. If Canada and other Scandinavian countries can legalized gay marriage, why can't Americans accept others who are different from them and legalize gay marriage?
Posted by: Chris Tan | Nov 9, 2006 11:33:57 PM