Gen. Peter Pace Says Military Shouldn't Condone "Immoral" Gays
In an interview with Chicago Tribune editors and reporters, Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman General Peter Pace said that homosexuality is immoral and gays should not be allowed to serve openly in the military.
Said Pace: "I believe homosexual acts between two individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts. I do not believe the United States is well served by a policy that says it is OK to be immoral in any way. As an individual, I would not want [acceptance of gay behavior] to be our policy, just like I would not want it to be our policy that if we were to find out that so-and-so was sleeping with somebody else's wife, that we would just look the other way, which we do not. We prosecute that kind of immoral behavior."
Pace said he based his views on his "upbringing".
C. Dixon Osburn, the executive director of the Servicemen's Legal Defense Network (SLDN), immediately called on Pace to apologize: "General Pace's comments are outrageous, insensitive and disrespectful to the 65,000 lesbian and gay troops now serving in our armed forces. Our men and women in uniform make tremendous sacrifices for our country, and deserve General Pace's praise, not his condemnation. As a Marine and a military leader, General Pace knows that prejudice should not dictate policy. It is inappropriate for the Chairman to condemn those who serve our country because of his own personal bias. He should immediately apologize for his remarks."
Pace's remarks directly contradict the views of Former General and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff John Shalikashvili, who said in January that he believes the military is ready for openly gay servicemen.
Said Shalikashvili: "I now believe that if gay men and lesbians served openly in the United States military, they would not undermine the efficacy of the armed forces. Our military has been stretched thin by our deployments in the Middle East, and we must welcome the service of any American who is willing and able to do the job."
Shalikashvili did not bring his personal views on what is "moral" into the equation.
AmericaBlog notes: "I'd say 'immoral' is letting our own injured and maimed soldiers sleep in their own urine when you all knew about it and didn't give a damn. Immoral is lying to the American people in order to get us into a war. Immoral is sending hundreds of thousands of US soldiers into battle without the proper armor. Immoral is risking the lives of our soldiers by still not having a plan for victory or exit."
Top general calls homosexuality 'immoral' [chicago tribune]
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Posted Mar. 13,2007 at 8:16 AM EST by Andy Towle in Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Gay Rights, Military, News, Peter Pace | Permalink
No matter how much we may emphasize the proble with gays, no matter how many complain about gays in the military, no matter how many want to ban gay marriages, homosexuality IS LEAST OF THE PROBLEM. Heterosexual fornication is a bigger problem with 90% of Americans sleeping with someone before marriage and another 50% having extra marital affairs. The Bible says that heterosexual fornication and adultery is as bad as homosexuality. The woman who Jesus rescued from the stoners was accused of heterosexual fornication (adultery) not homosexuality.
Heterosexual fornicators (90% of Americans) weren't born to fornicate any more than child rapists or murderers or gays were born that way.
About 90% of the American population is made up of heterosexual fornicators, and only 3% of the population is gays.
Sure, you have a right to be a heterosexual forincator and I have a right to find it sickening. Get used to it as well.
You have spoken your mind. I have spoken mine and to all the do gooder preachers in America including Billy Graham who want to come and preach to me here in Asia, about homosexuality and heterosexual fornication, I say go back and preach to your fellow countrymen, 90% of whom are surely going to hell along with 3% of the gays.
Posted by: K.L.Lee | Mar 13, 2007 4:01:01 PM
I agree with Chiris, who wrote "I'm tired of hearing people whine for an apology from people who express their opinion. Even if they do get an apology from them, they're rarely ever truly sorry".
since homosexuality is immoral like sleeping with another womans wife, i'd like to see everyone in the millitary discharged for this immoral act.
HUM who would be left to fight.
Posted by: j.rosa | Mar 13, 2007 4:57:16 PM
Homosexuality is NOT immoral. Fictional story books are not a guide for life.
Posted by: Jack! | Mar 13, 2007 5:45:21 PM
K.L.Lee,
Your post rocks! But I must point out that Billy Graham has never preached against homosexuality. Not saying he thinks it's peachy but as an evangelist, he's not one of the evil ones.
Posted by: mark m | Mar 13, 2007 7:06:26 PM
Mark M
Thank you. Just an example,,did not say Graham preached against homosexuality, but he should be preaching to the heterosexual fornicators back in the United States.
Posted by: K.Lee | Mar 13, 2007 11:51:46 PM
Another time when one would say: Don't do what I do, do what I say. Pace is off my Christmas card list.
Posted by: Dr. Pat | Mar 14, 2007 1:32:18 PM
I totally agree with Gen. Pace's assesments. Homosexuality is indeed an immoral act, one that has been condemned since the first creation of man. People who support that lifestyle do so at the risk of offended not Gen. Pace, but the one who really matters, which is God himself. Many who want to live that lifestyle do not profess a belief in God which in turn allows them freedom to live any lifestyle that they choose, essentially freeing their conscience of accountablity.
Posted by: Ted | Mar 14, 2007 7:25:09 PM
Take your CHOSEN beliefs elsewhere Ted. Your assertions do not hold up to reality. That book you cite is a work of fiction. You might as well recite from Cinderella.
Posted by: Jack! | Mar 14, 2007 8:52:49 PM
Thank You Jack for backing up my comment. Like I said many who support the gay lifestyle profess no belief in God nor the Bible. Like any lifestyle my belief is my choice ....so is the gay lifestyle, a choice.
Posted by: Ted | Mar 14, 2007 9:34:10 PM
I agree. The military should not condone immoral conduct. That includes any straight soldier who makes any type of sexist comment about someone of the opposite sex. That also means the generals who allowed lesser ranked soldiers take the hit for abu graid. And let's not forget the lying of the decider in chief. Gays are immoral? No, only general like PPace who obey lies from someone who is killing Americans
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