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Virginia Tech Shooter Was a Student, Authorities Say

At least 33 are dead, including two professors and the gunman, in the latest reports on the tragic campus shooting that took place at Virginia Tech yesterday. At least 15 are reported injured. It is being called "the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history."

Chi_seung_huiPreliminary identification of the deceased shooter has been made but not released.

University police have not yet released the name of that suspect. University president Charles Steger said told CNN he did not believe there was another gunman at large. Authorities say that the shooter was likely an Asian student living in a Virginia tech dorm.

UPDATE: Authorities have now identified the shooter as Cho Seung-Hui, 23, a student and native of South Korea (pictured). He reportedly left a note of several pages explaining his actions and reads, in part, "You caused me to do this."

The professors killed were identified as G.V. Loganathan, a professor of civil and environmental engineering, and Liviu Librescu, a professor of engineering science and mechanics.

According to the NYT, "There was a two-hour gap between the first shootings, when two people were killed, and the second, when a gunman stalked through the halls of an engineering building across campus, shooting at professors and students in classrooms and hallways, firing dozens of rounds and killing 30. Officials said he then shot himself so badly in the face that he could not be identified."

VigilThe shooting may have begun as a lover's quarrel.

According to the University's Collegiate Times, many of the Norris Hall shootings took place in a German class.

The NYT also reports: "Virginia imposes few restrictions on the purchase of handguns and no requirement for any kind of licensing or training. The state does limit handgun purchases to one per month to discourage bulk buying and resale, state officials said. Once a person had passed the required background check, state law requires that law enforcement officers issue a concealed carry permit to anyone who applies. However, no regulations and no background checks are required for purchase of weapons at a Virginia gun show. 'Virginia’s gun laws are some of the weakest state laws in the country,' said Josh Horwitz, executive director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. 'And where there have been attempts to make some changes, a backdoor always opens to get around the changes, like the easy access at gun shows.'"

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  1. anon

    Oh red scare red scare pinkos run sound the air horns duck under your desk

    The commie red scare went out in the late 50's catch up please.

    castro's cuban revolution funded and trained by the USA no secret in the beggining. castro was our man in the beggining public records.

    Osama bin laden trained by the CIA our man to fight the russians in afganistan


    red scare red scare I must be a commie because i state a few historical facts about america's past. Trail of tears anyone. negropante's support of the death squads in south america in the 90's etc

    red scare red scare commie run run run.

    please catch up with the rest of the world. that is unless you think jeeeebbbbbbusssss himself landed at plymouth rock and planted the flag of the great nation of sainted jebbbbbbusssssss land with sainted holy reagan as our own personal guardian angel and intermediary between us poor sleps and jeeeebbbbussss

    oy vey

    Posted by: pacificoceanboy | Apr 17, 2007 7:45:35 PM

  2. PS anon uhm many red blooded americans supported hitler. many americans financed the nazi party thus why Roosevelt confiscated many lands and money from red blooded americans due to supporting the enemy. Prescot Bush Sr for example had a couple million (back then worth a lot more)confiscated by FDR's administration due to geroge Bush's grandpa Prescott dealing with, financing, and making a profit off of slave labor at aushwitz.

    So probably if it was bad some american was involved. Just the way it is. read a book

    Posted by: pacificoceanboy | Apr 17, 2007 7:49:57 PM

  3. to get a glimpse into the mindset of cho seung-hui, go to...

    Posted by: sean | Apr 17, 2007 10:03:03 PM

  4. (Wikipedia is more accurate and trustworthy than the New York Times, which actually just makes up stories). If Andrew Anthos had had a handgun on him, he'd probably still be alive today.

    Posted by: Joe T. | Apr 18, 2007 3:23:51 AM

  5. "Morality (defined) refers to the concept of human ethics which pertains to matters of right and wrong — also referred to as "good and evil" — used within three contexts: individual conscience; systems of principles and judgments — sometimes called moral values —shared within a cultural, religious, secular or philosophical community; and codes of behavior or conduct morality."

    For those who don't think the Virginia Tech horror has anything to do with the breakdown of a moral code, I believe those same people would have to acknowledge that what this student did was immoral, i.e., there was a total disregard for any moral behavior in any of the three contexts defined above.

    Posted by: Stephen | Apr 18, 2007 7:13:16 AM

  6. Did it cross ANYONE'S mind that the man might have been mentally ill?

    Has ANYONE been watching the news at all?

    Stephen, does your "moral code" apply to people that are mentally ill? Do you believe in mental illness or is everything just good vs. evil, male vs. female, marriage vs. civil union with you?

    I think it is interesting that NO ONE seems to be considering that this man, who has a history of psychosis, might have been anything other than an normal, mentally healthy man who consciously and purposefully set out to be evil.

    I'm CERTAINLY not excusing this man's actions but we seem to be applying a first century, torches and pitchforks, understanding of evil and trying to figure out what's responsible for it, rather than first considering that this might actually be an isolated incident carried out by a mentally unstable person.

    Interestinly enough when a mother in NC straps her two sons into a car and rolls it into a lake or when a mother in Texas drowns her five sons in a bathtub people come out of the woodwork to RIGHTFULLY consider that there might be an contributing factor OTHER that evilness behind such actions. However when an obviously mentally ill man does something terrible we become infuriated if anyone offers "excuses" for their bad behavior.

    I hate to sound like a broken record with bringing up the obvious gender biases, but I think someone needs to bring some reality and sanity to this discussion.

    Posted by: Zeke | Apr 18, 2007 10:20:38 AM

  7. zeke, excellent point

    Posted by: pacificoceanboy | Apr 18, 2007 10:39:25 AM

  8. Stephen, again you make a faulty argument. Was what the kid did wrong? Yes. Immoral? Um, yeah. So because his ACTIONS were wrong, we are to attribute his behavior to a breakdown of some magical mystical "Moral Code"

    As Zeke has already pointed out, he was mentally disturbed. As much as I might have wanted to hate the kid, as soon as I saw his picture, I felt not hate, but sadness and pity. Maybe that makes me "immoral" because I can't get all EYE FOR EYE on his ass now that he's gone, but I just saw a disturbed and lonely kid in that blank face.

    I guess this magical moral code is what prompted my compassionate response... oh wait, that code is all but gone... so what else could it be......?

    Posted by: mark m | Apr 18, 2007 11:04:04 AM

  9. If possible, I would like to redirect this discussion away from the good vs. evil, gun control vs. 2nd Amendment, Republican vs. Democrat, moral decline vs. criminal genetic predisposition, direction it has taken to ask some questions that I think are timely and pertinent.

    Where was the ball dropped in recognizing this man's OBVIOUS displays of mental illness? Why was nothing, or very little done by the NUMEROUS people who are NOW coming forward to give story after story of his continuing and ESCALATING signs of deteriorating mental health (like his two roommates who are making the media rounds giggling about how crazy he was and how he stalked women)? What could/should have been done to get him help? Do we in America even recognize mental illness as a legitimate problem? Do we have a system in place to recognize mental illness, report it, treat it and monitor it? If not, why not?

    In my opinion, these are the top questions that we should be asking ourselves, our communities and our legislators.

    Morality, gun control laws, concealed weapons, bigger/fuller jails, the death penalty, partisan politics and nothing else will make one bit of difference when the problem is an individual with unrecognized, untreated or IGNORED signs of mental illness.

    The sooner we focus on the real, tangible problems and stop distracting ourselves with partisan, sectarian and self-righteous agendas, the sooner we will start to do things that actually address those problems and the sooner we will see real, positive results.

    Sermon over. Moving on…

    Posted by: Zeke | Apr 18, 2007 1:11:42 PM

  10. Please...if pacificoceanboy is still allowed to post, we've clearly got a *long* way to go when it comes to dealing with mental illness.

    Posted by: Scott | Apr 18, 2007 1:34:53 PM

  11. Scott again I never claimed to be sane. Sane is boring.

    Boo hoo, I must have pushed at least one of your buttons otherwise you wouldn't even have aknowledged my existence. Boo hoo somehow I hurt your feelings Boo hoo


    Posted by: pacificoceanboy | Apr 18, 2007 2:28:16 PM

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