Trailers: For The Bible Tells Me So and Code of Conduct

The folks behind this new documentary about homosexuality and Biblical scripture, seen through the experience of five families, have certainly put together a powerful trailer.

For the Bible Tells Me So [official site]

And on a less serious note, Rich Merritt, the former Marine behind the 2005 memoir, Secrets of a Gay Marine Porn Star, has produced a trailer for his forthcoming novel, Code of Conduct.

Rich Merritt [official site]

(via kenneth in the 212)

Comments

  1. Zeke says

    I want a copy of “For the Bible Tells Me So” too.

    My, mostly straight, UCC Church has two Sundays a year dedicated to GLBT empowerment. The first is Pride Sunday in June and the second is Coming Out Sunday in October. On these days the sermon and an after service meal and program are dedicated to Christian awareness of the GLBT community and our needs. This documentary would be the perfect thing for one of these programs.

    Hopefully it will be widely available soon.

  2. gabriel says

    I’d love to find a church like that Zeke… I’d actually consider going back.

    This movie looks interesting. I’d love to check it out and possibly watch it with my parents.

  3. anon (gmail.com) says

    Well, according to Sam Harris, one should take the Bible literally. I’m not sure how one handles the internal contradictions though. Harris would scoff at the premise of this movie. Hmmmm.

  4. Dusty says

    in response to JLS..I take offense to your statement on Christianity..as a gay Christian..the Christianity I grew up with was one of love and acceptance and one of helping others no matter who they are…and you as I’m guessing being gay I would hope be more sensitive towards other peoples beliefs than dragging mine through the mud and calling it silly superstition..

  5. Dusty says

    in response to JLS..I take offense to your statement on Christianity..as a gay Christian..the Christianity I grew up with was one of love and acceptance and one of helping others no matter who they are…and you as I’m guessing being gay I would hope be more sensitive towards other peoples beliefs than dragging mine through the mud and calling it silly superstition..

  6. Jordan says

    Exactly JLS, who gives a crap what the bible says? Anything that man had a hand in writing is certainly fiction or gossip that has been blown all out of proportion.

    I’m not even certain I even believe in god anymore. I can’t get past the logic of this quote: “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? The he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” – Epicurus. – Kinda says it all.

  7. Zeke says

    GABRIEL, if you, or anyone else, would like to reconnect with the Christian faith in a denomination that will welcome them with openness and affirmation, check out your local United Church of Christ (UCC). Sometimes UCC churches are called Congregational Churches, especially in the North East. Just make sure it is a UNITED Church of Christ and not a Church of Christ. There is a HUGE difference in the two.

    You can find out more about the denomination, and find a congregation in your area by going to GodIsStillSpeaking.com or UCC.org.

    I’m directing this comment to Gabriel, in response to his/her comment. I’m not trying to proselytize anyone. That’s not my style and it’s not the style of the UCC.

  8. stephen says

    the bible is a novel. all religions are merely an outgrowth of human being’s superstitious behavior to justify the subjugation of human by human. there is no god and there is no afterlife. science tells me so.

  9. Ex-Christian says

    Well Dusty, maybe if the loving Christians stood up to the hate-mongers in the Christian faith there wouldn’t be such criticism. As far as I’m concern Christians have done nothing more than whore the name of Jesus for their own political lust and greed.
    Also, obviously you haven’t noticed but loving Christians are despised by the Christian right to the point that no one takes your kind serous anymore.
    If you want to be counted for something you’ll have to grow a backbone and stand-up for it. I don’t want to be mean I just want you to realize what’s happening to your religion. It is all such a shame.

  10. Zeke says

    EX-CHRISTIAN, how do you presume to know what Dusty or other loving Christians have done to stand up to hate-mongers who have hi-jacked their faith?

    How can you chastise him for not having a backbone and not standing up without knowing him or knowing what he does or doesn’t do?

    I think you are being very rude and terribly presumptuous.

    You’re right about one thing, “loving”, progressive Christians most certainly ARE despised by the Christian right. In fact they probably despise us more than just about anyone else, except for gays.

    If Dusty (and I) are part of a group of people who are despised by the Christian right then we must be doing something right and if for no other reason than that I would think that we would earn your respect instead of your scorn.

  11. Ex-Christian says

    Zeke,
    I was hoping Dusty would respond in hopes that he knows that he will have to say more than a few lines if he is to stand up for his faith. Isn’t Jesus worth more then a few “now stop that you meany” lines.
    Who is the voice of the Christian faith in America? Pat Robertson, Jerry Farwell, James Dobbs, etc etc. They most certainly have whored the name of Jesus for their political lust. These people actively recruit to strengthen their flocks. The same can not be said for your faith.
    Where is the voice of those loving Christians? Where are your television shows? The answer is the same for both questions and that’s not in the main stream media. Where is the loving Christians voice when a teenage decides to kill himself because they believe the words of Pat Robertson about sex. I’m sure you would be the first to help, but I afraid you are a voice in the wilderness.
    I must go now. Sorry I offended you but Dusty needs to learn to stand up and be counted. It’s a very harsh world out there and much worse than me out there.
    Peace be you.

  12. db says

    The one thing that always bothers me about the Christian responses is that they maintain that somehow their beliefs are beyond criticism–no matter how outlandish–and yet they are ready to criticize those non-Christian Catholics, or Scientologists or Mormons. I think all belief systems are open to criticism and ridicule.

  13. Zeke says

    “Where is the voice of those loving Christians? Where are your television shows? The answer is the same for both questions and that’s not in the main stream media.” — EX CHRISTIAN

    I’m glad you asked. And what timing!

    This is an article on the UCC website JUST TODAY.

    Maybe this will answer your question about where our voice is.

    http://www.ucc.org/news/ucc-appeals-to-full-fcc-about.html

    Here’s another answer to your question:

    http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?idCategory=34&idarticle=3320

    The UCC has been fighting with mainstream media outlets for years over their repeated exclusion of our (or ANY progressive Christian) voice in their weekly, even daily, fundamentalist lovefests. We are boring in that we don’t rant and rave or declare that natural disasters and acts of terrorism are judgments from God. We don’t give them the Jerry Springer ratings boost that a Tony Perkins or a Bill Donahue or a Pat Robertson or a Jerry Falwell will.

    What would be YOUR suggestion to change the situations that the UCC finds ourselves in in the examples above. I welcome your wisdom since you seem to feel that we are lazy, uninterested, unconcerned, uncaring or inept.

  14. DB says

    In this country, when someone admits to being an athiest they are immediately attacked and in the most personal ways. They are accused of being mean-spirited and without morals and are pretty much removed from any discourse (even when they have best selling books). I think coming out as an athiest in America is an incredibly brave thing for anyone to do.

  15. Zeke says

    The most “Christian” man I know is an atheist. My VERY best friend in the world (next to my husband) is an atheist and he is without a doubt THE most moral, ethical and kind spirited person I know (again, other than the husband).

    He and his wife were married in a double ceremony with me and my man. They made a pledge to us that they would not get married until we could get married too. As soon as Ontario got marriage equality in 2003 we all flew up to Toronto and got hitched in a civil ceremony.

    A few months later my husband and I had a church ceremony. Knowing that a spiritual union was important to me, my friend, without one word of judgment, ridicule or reservation, stood up for me as my best man.

    100% Class act.

    I would come to blows with ANYONE who said he was immoral, unethical or mean-spirited.

  16. says

    The bible is so full of internal contradictions on matters of sexuality, race, slavery, and almost everything else, it cannot be used as an authoritative document on *anything*. And that’s just the original document – all the corruptions of text and intent that have occurred through translation over the centuries make it even less useful.

    It is only good people, believing in the dignity of others, who have led movements against slavery, discrimination etc and the churches have _followed_, shaping their doctrine accordingly (if they care to).

    All religions seem to be sectarian down to the level of the congregation or individual, and as such any church/congregation must be judged on the actions of its members, not the sticker on the window.

  17. Ex-Christian says

    Zeke,
    You said: “What would be YOUR suggestion to change the situations that the UCC finds ourselves in in the examples above. I welcome your wisdom since you seem to feel that we are lazy, uninterested, unconcerned, uncaring or inept.”
    I NEVER said any of those names. You putting these “words into my mouth” is much more hateful and insulting than my criticism of Dusty for not being more assertive in his post. My post was meant to spark Dusty’s emotions in hopes that he will make stronger statements in the future. I certainly hope he does. I am claiming that the religious left (that’s the loving people) doesn’t speak in a clear concise and loud enough voice. If they were to unify themselves more their voices would become a choir. A choir that could give much hope to so many people but a choir can only be strong if the each individual voice sings loud and clear. And that choir needs every voice including Dusty’s. I simply want the Dusty’s of the world to not be so timid. I know the Right-wing insults and intimidate them but they need to put a little “fire in their bellies” and take control of the message of Jesus. Not the message of the Bible but the message of Jesus. The religious left could also work together to create their own televangelist and radio shows.
    The links you provided shows the documentation from Media Matters of how the religious right dominates the air waves. That’s why I made the claim that it is their voice America hears.
    Here’s and instance for you that I thought was very disappointing for the lack of action from the religious left.
    http://mediamatters.org/items/200706170001
    In it Tucker Carlson states: “I have never met anybody less sincere than the religious left. I mean, you think that Jerry Falwell was cloying and phony, honestly, you haven’t met the religious left.”
    My other suggestion is the lack of recruitment into your faiths. If the Mormon’s can be one of the fastest going faiths in America with their crazy wacked out beliefs then surely the religious left can unify enough to come up with an action plan to increase their numbers.
    There you have two suggestions: Unify in your voice and in your recruitment.
    Of course I know that my suggestions are meaningless to you but this isn’t my battle. I will no longer fight for the Bible but against it. The Biblical literalists have created an ignorant hateful world and I would rather have the atheist cover my back than people who will give in to them.
    Peace be with you.

  18. Zeke says

    EX CHRISTIAN, I didn’t put any words into your mouth and I didn’t say that you SAID those words. What I said, and I quote, “you SEEM to FEEL that we are lazy, uninterested, unconcerned, uncaring or inept”. In light of this fact I don’t know if you are just getting sloppy with your defensiveness or if it’s just a problem with reading comprehension.

    I can only assume that it’s a problem of reading comprehension since you seem to have also misinterpreted or simply missed the point of the first story at the links I gave you above

    It was NOT just about the domination of the religious right in the main stream media. It was about WHY they dominate the airwaves and how much Christian leaders from progressive denominations are ACTIVELY fighting to get their voices heard and the brick walls we are coming up against with the media powers that be.

    You may have intended to direct your comment to Dusty in order to encourage him to be a better, more vocal, “loving” Christian (though I’m not sure he needs any help in that regard) but what you ACTUALLY said was directed at ALL progressive “loving” Christians.

    Read your comment again. It most certainly does convey that you FEEL that progressive Christians are responsible for why their voices aren’t being heard. You even wanted to know, “where is the loving Christians voice when a teenage decides to kill himself because they believe the words of Pat Robertson about sex”, but yet you totally missed the message in one of the links I gave you. In that link it tells how the UCC is having to go to the FCC, and make MULTIPLE appeals, over the fact that a multi-million dollar ad we made that specifically reached out to gays, single parents, SUICIDAL PEOPLE and other oppressed people to tell them that they are loved, welcomed and AFFIRMED in our church, was refused by ABC, CBS, NBC, VIACOM and many other networks because it was considered “too controversial”.

    How then could I not the take this statement by you, “Where is the voice of those loving Christians? Where are your television shows? The answer is the same for both questions and that’s not in the main stream media.” to mean that you think we are responsible for our lack of voice? How can I NOT take it to mean that you SEEM to FEEL that we are, “lazy, uninterested, unconcerned, uncaring or inept”?

    Don’t be angry with me for responding to what you SAID as opposed to what you MEANT, or what you MEANT to SAY.

    Peace.

  19. nic says

    it is a testament to the power that has been vested in religion that even like-minded individuals squabble over it. i would prefer to have none of it. if we were to see it for what it is: a collection of tall tales, superstitions, and mythology, we would all be better off. why do we need validation outside of ourselves? relegion is not only, for the most part, useless, but it is often counter-productive, harmful, and dangerous.

  20. Ex-Christain says

    Okay Zeke,
    You obviously FEEL that I’m too stupid to comprehend the religious left. So why didn’t any of you make a big deal out of what Tucker Carlson said about your religion. The Religious Right would have. And yes you obviously FEEL that I’m too stupid to comprehend how that commercial is going to change everything. Silly me, I’m sure people will be climbing over each other to get into your church from that one sixty second commercial. Your links where only a drop of water in the ocean that is the right. It’s too little too late. You honestly believe the religious left (like the democrats) unite to stand up to he right.
    The atheists have a stronger movement than you do. The Mormon and Scientologist with their insane doctrine have a stronger movement that you do. The crazy people draw in more people than your religion and you’re telling me that the religious left has so few problems.
    Also, other than that one commercial what other televangelist or radio programs does the UCC have? How many years will it take before the UCC tries a deferent came game plan than that commercial?
    I’m not an ex-christian because I left the church. It was the church that left me.
    Peace be with you.

  21. Zeke says

    I won’t respond to you any more EX CHRISTIAN.

    I read your responses and find myself wondering if you’re responding to me or the voices in your head.

    I don’t know why you’re so angry with progressive Christians who are trying to make a positive difference in a world where fundamentalist hate us because they think we’re unChristian and everyone else seems to think that we’re fundamentalists simply because we’re Christians.

    What ever your issues, it’s not my job, nor my concern, to try to change your mind.

    I’m honestly happy for you as an ex Christian.

    I won’t be coming back to this thread. I’ve heard enough of your obfuscations and straw man rants.

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