03/12/2008
Towleroad Guide to the Tube #257
GERALDINE FERRARO: Defends her remarks that Obama is where he is because he is black.
DREAM TICKET: Nancy Pelosi puts the kibosh on any Clinton-Obama, Obama-Clinton combo.
GEORGE W BUSH: The president sings an early farewell at the Gridiron Roast.
BILL O'REILLY: O'Reilly vs Godwin's law.
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D. R. H., you're my new hero!
Posted by: Sami | Mar 12, 2008 2:13:38 PM
PETERPARKER,
what you said. nevertheless:
NOAH,
thanks, i guess, for iterating what we should all know.
JASON,
you have to be interesting before you can be provocative. but, clearly, diction is not your forte (pronounced fort, not fortay).
as JMG pointed out, cuckold is a term applied to men, only. (we hispanics have bridged that adjectival gap by using the neuter phrase, "poniendo los cuernos").
further, "exact same" is tautological.
gosh, some of these times i just want to throw my arms up in surrender. dude, when using hundred-dollar words, unless they hit the mark, you are only buying bargain-basement elegantism.
CARLTON,
shut the fuck up. ferraro is no more a clinton "agent" or gasp, "surrogate" than i am. for you to read anymore into her comments than her assessment of things as they are makes me want to hurl. i share her outrage.
suddenly, if i question anything about obama, i'm a racist? there are undertones of white supremacy in what i say? as insalubrious to your way of thinking, dear, i am mexican-american. hence, i have no ethnic dog in this fight (now SOULBROTHA is going to say that i called hillary a bitch and obama a dawg). the only thing i rely on is reason and a sense of balance.
Posted by: nic | Mar 12, 2008 2:28:07 PM
Ferraro's remarks and Clinton's responses to them are all about Pennsylvania. Making Clinton the victimized white woman versus the black beneficiary of affirmative action will play well into white middle class resentment there.
Posted by: Chester | Mar 12, 2008 2:37:16 PM
Derrick
Great point
At first I was an Edwards supporter till NH. I knew then that Obama was the one to get behind.
Now if edwards had instead done the whole trying to bring the country back together thing as vs Little guys yeah!!! corporations bad!!! (though pretty acurate) he would have done far far better than he did.
The message is what stimulates the majority of Obama voters wether white (me with a mutt mix of everything somewhere in my family's past) , black, red, yellow, and even green martians.
:-)
The thing about Geraldine is that her schtick isn't new. She did it back in the 80's about jesse jackson. She has pulled the "only because he is black" thing out before and against other black candidates.
On her raising money for obama. LOL
ROFLMAO
Obama raised $55 mil last month alone and 90% of that from small donors under $100 each.
She is soooooooooo old guard and doesn't realize it is the 21st century yet. The old way is dead and gone. It is a new form of politics now with direct donations from average citizens outweighing big donors. Instant info gathering via the net, etc.
I am embaresed for her because she is old school and doesn't realize it is the 21st century yet.
That said. Obama leads on peldged delegates, the popular vote, the most states, and money raised. Hillary has lost and is destroying her chances for the VP slot. Per pelosi the VP slot for hillary has already been destroyed.
Time to face reality folks.
Love you hillary supproters and your passion, but it is time to go after Grandpa Bush jr mccain with Obama the head of the dem ticket.
PS; over at Huffpo there is an article on the actress who played MARIANE on Giligan's Island being arested for pot possesion. LOL
Mariane!!!! LOL a fellow pot head
Smile everyone
:-)
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | Mar 12, 2008 2:51:30 PM
You may disagree with what Geraldine said, but she didn't mean it as racist - and I don't believe she is racist. I also find it offensive to continually claim "racism". It's just ridiculous. The Obama campaign just does it to get press... there is no such thing as bad publicity. Good for her to stand up and tell the Obama campaign to pound sand. I'm sick of hearing folks feign fake apologies. Yes, I'm a Clinton supporter, but for what it's worth having the Obama campaign supporter resigning for calling Clinton a "monster" was also ridiculous. If that was the worst thing that every happened to Hillary, I'm sure she would be elated. This whole thing of people being so damaged by political speech is over the top. Didn't their Mom's ever tell them "Sticks and Stones may break your bones, but words will never harm you..." Grow up...
Posted by: MikeH | Mar 12, 2008 2:56:58 PM
Clinton is ahead in popular vote, btw:
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/clinton-obama-popular-vote.html
Posted by: John | Mar 12, 2008 3:02:30 PM
JIMMYBOYO:
Marianne? She must be damn near eighty now. At her age, smoking pot. Well, if she's still using drugs she must be a fellow Pisces too. I wonder if McCain still uses something? George Dumbya has been drinking all throught last 7 years. He never stopped. The liar.
NIC,
I never realized you were Hispanic. So, where was your allegience to and support for Bill Richardson? You disloyal bit...I mean, fella'.
Hmmm...Mexican-American, hunh? That means you still have a full head of hair, don't you? You lucky bit...I mean, fella'.
Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Mar 12, 2008 3:14:16 PM
Blah blah blah Obama. Blah blah blahblahblah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Clinton blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Obama Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. BLAH BLAH BLAH. Blah blah blahblahblah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Obama Blah blah blahblahblah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blahblahblah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah..
Blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blahblahblah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blahblah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Clinton blah. Blah blah blahblahblah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah?
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. BLAH — Blah blah blahblahblah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah.. Blah blah blah Obama. Blah blah blahblahblah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Obama blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah.
BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!
Obama blah blah blah blah blahblahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Hillary blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Obama blah blah Messiah.
Blah blah blahblahblah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blahblah blahblah. Clintons blah blah blahblahblah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Obama blah blah. Blah blahblahblah blah? Blah blah blah blah blah blah Clinton blah Obama?
Obama blah blah blah. Hollow as a chocolate Easter bunny.
Posted by: Michael Bedwell | Mar 12, 2008 3:18:00 PM
Michael, thanks for displaying in crystal clear terms the intellect of those supporting Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Marc | Mar 12, 2008 3:26:38 PM
John
Sorry, FL and Mi don't count in any wyshape or form unless they do a proper by the rules vote.
No serious political watcher counts those numbers thus, minus FL and MI (especialy with 3-4 candidates not even on their ballot)
Thenyour site also doesn't have the TX caucus numbers added in
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/05/texas.caucus.count/index.html?eref=rss_politics
1.1 million cacus votes added to TX so far splitting 56% and 44% (ps Obama is wining TX delegate count er CNN and MSNBC)
Obama 12,885,721
Clinton 12,383,287
Obama ahead in the popular vote by 502,434popuar votes
I would love FL and Mi to vote properly even though FL would most likely go hillary (nowhee ear the margin of the improper vote)
BUT sorry, they don't count till after the convention sts them AFTER they winner is already delared unless they vote properly by the rules Hillary agreed to lke all the other candidates.
LOL Derrick. We pisces do love to indulge at whatever age. :-)
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | Mar 12, 2008 3:27:15 PM
PS john
Real clear politics has Obama ahead 700,000+ in the popular vote, much more than my figure
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | Mar 12, 2008 3:29:53 PM
The above BLAH BLAH post was not by me. Once again some coward unable to respond with substance just tries to discredit the messenger with such juvenile tactics even going so far as to steal e-mail address. Now I understand why more and more sites are requiring registered posters.
Posted by: Michael Bedwell | Mar 12, 2008 3:33:35 PM
PSS
You know the schtick already
"sorry for my typos"
:-)
Michael
LOL
"Hollow as a chocolate Easter bunny"
We all have indulged once or twice in those hollow chocolate easter bunnies in our lives. You know you did at least once as a kid.
:-)
You probably even said "YUMMY" with chocolate smeared all over your mouth and half a hollow chocolate easter bunny in your hand
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | Mar 12, 2008 3:35:48 PM
Come back Andy, we miss you. The weather sucks outside so i guess ur not missing much.
Posted by: daveynyc | Mar 12, 2008 3:37:42 PM
Michael
It has happened to me before
Though I bet my chocolate easter bunny retort stands true
:-)
Damn, now I want some chocalte
YUMMY
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | Mar 12, 2008 3:40:21 PM
DERRICK,
my loyalties were where they should have been, before reality hit. will i vote for the bi-- i mean hillary, or the ni-- i mean barack? oh you betcha! mezcin with a full head of hair and uncut? oh you betcha!
good on you, my friend. you know what bette midler said, "fuck 'em if they can't take a joke!"
Posted by: nic | Mar 12, 2008 3:44:49 PM
I sat mutely in front of the Television this morning, changing channel after channel while Ms Ferraro was
allowed to say the same weird hyperbolic “just let me speak” pointed oddities while I squirmed and drank my coffee.
NOT ONE of the interviewers questioned (Ms? Or would she be offended if I said Mrs?) Ferraro on the issues of damaging the Democratic party, women in general, or “race” relations. For anyone who wanted to learn how to use the media to their own advantage it was a revelation.
Good one Gerry.
Except one thing: Geraldine Ferraro, who are you?
Really.
There are many people under the age of 35 who don’t ever recall having ever heard of you. Ger, all of your kids are now out of college and THEIR kids are voting for Obama.
And Gerry: do ya’ even HAVE any black friends??? You know: not just the ones who go to the fundraisers, but maybe even one African American pal or close associate that you’d ‘kinda even have a drink with, who would tell it like it is?
Trust me (as a white pretty boy with shiny prospects) when I tell you that just about everything you’ve ever heard about WHY minorities are paranoid and cynical about your motives is true: they are profiled, they are “tracked”, and with every success they have in ANY field, there is some weird shrill overly tanned stretched visage (who looks like a prettier or smarter or whiter version of you or me Geraldine) ranting somewhere that the only reason “the blacks” succeeded was because of affirmative action.
So shut the hell up and get some minority friends, some younger friends, some OTHER friends who will tell you that you are Driving While White in the wrong lane.
Huh.
Just like a woman driver.
Get it?
Posted by: DKS | Mar 12, 2008 3:52:29 PM
"... mezcin with a full head of hair and uncut."
I'm sure they have barbers way down in Texas, darlin'. Try a black neighborhood--they won't hurt you. I promise.
Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Mar 12, 2008 4:00:51 PM
Ferraro desperately wants Hillary to win because she probably thinks it will cement her "legacy" from 1984. Desperation makes people say strange things.
Posted by: Dylan | Mar 12, 2008 4:04:39 PM
DERRICK,
it's not my hair that is uncut.
DKS,
what the hell is wrong with you? your appalling disrespect makes even MY sanguine aspect livid. what's worse, it diminishes you.
Posted by: nic | Mar 12, 2008 4:31:14 PM
Obama has gotten attention because he's black, but that doesn't negate hiss talents either.
Hillary has gotten where she is right now because she is a woman and because she's Bill's wife.
John McCain is here now because he's been milking the Vietnam War POW angle for decades.
Ferraro admitted to being asked to be on the ticket because she was a woman. What's her point?
Personally, I think if Obama were white he would have had the nomination squared away by now, not the opposite. Oh, and Obama did not call her a racist. He said her comments were divisive and to look at the history of this country. Ferraro is just trying to drum up white people who hate the idea of voting for a black man, and that find to be the racist part of all of this.
Posted by: hal | Mar 12, 2008 4:36:44 PM
OK, Ferraro is just out of line. Unfortuantely, her attitude isn't that uncommon.
However, you can't claim to be oppressed before the oppression actually happens. There's no dibs for "pre-emptive" oppression.
Once you've been slaves for 400 years, then you get to complain about injustice. Once you've experienced the bitter taste of being labeled "sub-human" in your own homeland, then you get to complain about injustice. Once all the resources of your continent are stripped bare for the benefit of some distant empire thousands of miles away, then you get to complain about injustice.
One would imagine it's self-evident that a prolonged period of suffering must precede demands for social justice. But with the orgy of "reverse discrimination" nonsense lately (within the gay community and otherwise), I'm to beginning to wonder if white folks actually believe they're being oppressed. If they do, it is frankly delusion.
Posted by: John | Mar 12, 2008 5:11:44 PM
Everyone from Queens is a racist. It's common knowledge.
Will this get me on Oprah?
Posted by: anon | Mar 12, 2008 5:31:12 PM
Geraldine got it right and has the right to say this guy got to where he is not just on his two year experience in the Senate. But it's the Obama campaign that put the issue on the spotlight, and I hope it backfires on them. He is the one alienating people in his own party with these "oh you're so divisive" passive-aggressive tactics. Of course, he just wants to remake the party as the Obamacratic Party. His ego knows no bounds.
Posted by: Ken | Mar 12, 2008 5:32:26 PM
Once again, we have proof that the left wing can be just as ridiculous in squelching dissent as the right wing.
No, I am sorry, Ms. Ferraro, you cannot bring up race in that way. Why? Because we said so, that's why. Because if a black person claims injustice, it's automatically true, didn't you know that? Anyone else is delusional.
Posted by: jmg | Mar 12, 2008 5:58:44 PM