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FOX Red Eye Hosts Trash Pregnant Trans Man Thomas Beatie

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As well as "the little Ewok she's gonna crap out."

Greg Gutfeld and the folks at Red Eye make MSNBC's Morning Joe hosts look like saints. Such nice people.

One of them suggests "it" (meaning Thomas Beatie) should kill itself. Maybe they should just put Beatie in an empty lot and stone "it" to death.

Watch the clip, AFTER THE JUMP...

Previously
Morning Joe Hosts Disgusted by 'Pregnant Dude' Thomas Beatie [tr]
This Man is 22 Weeks Pregnant [tr]

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  1. omg fox sucks so bad. How is this condoned?

    Posted by: Jeremy | Apr 11, 2008 12:58:45 AM


  2. dont you just love america? This is a prime example why FOX is ntoriuosly the place to go for ignorant,low-brow,and misguided entertainment(as well as being strangely conservative).

    am i the only one who finds the whole segment very juvenille? Jesus,as if they could sound any less intellignet yelling over one another.Of course people are going to have a problem with the situation,but who at FOX greenlighted this?! its insanely offensive,with a harsh finger pointed at LGBTC issues that attacks one person for no other reason than having facial hair. Not ot mention that overall they dont even come close to reaching a point. If they wanted to alienate a veiwing audience,they've got a great head start,just show some old StoneWall footage and pipe in some wacky sound effects.

    i hadn't even heard of this show until watching this clip.I almost feel ashamed to come from chicago.

    -d

    Posted by: david | Apr 11, 2008 4:25:12 AM


  3. For those of you who STILL don't see why there's a T in LGBT, I'll repeat what I said before.

    Classic feminist analysis of masculinity:the male body is defined as an integrated whole. No penis comes in. No baby comes out. The hatred in this clip has exactly the same roots as homophobia.

    Posted by: Kevinvt | Apr 11, 2008 4:40:26 AM


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    Posted by: Tall_Girl | Apr 11, 2008 4:41:40 AM


  5. i posted on my blog bout this yesterday, please contact fox

    http://www.queersunited.blogspot.com

    Posted by: queerunity | Apr 11, 2008 8:15:19 AM


  6. who are these people?
    not funny
    not entertaining
    not informative
    not anything
    why are they on television?

    Posted by: Dean | Apr 11, 2008 9:34:46 AM


  7. this person submitted to a sex change operation not for biological or psychological needs but to circumvent existing anti-gay laws. now that this person has the benefits, he or she want to utilize his or her supposedly unwanted body parts that were kept in reserve in order to make complete his or her heterosexually modelled family. sorry, but this doesn't make a good case for you T's out there.

    Posted by: MHK | Apr 11, 2008 9:52:09 AM


  8. i think it'd be startling to see a man who is pregnant, but other than that, i still don't see the issue.

    if "she" perceives "herself" as, actually, a "he," then she should it offend me to call her a he?

    also, if she is able to have this child healthily, then why not? she already established that birthing a baby is not a female or male motivation...it's a human and animal motivation to procreate. it makes sense.

    what doesn't make sense is hoping that someone feels tremendously more pain during child birth because their different. or to wish "it" dead.

    these are disgusting people.

    Posted by: ian | Apr 11, 2008 9:57:46 AM


  9. DVR this crappy RED EYE show sometime...it airs @ 3:00am ET weeknights. It features a bunch of unknown losers who sit around and make moronic "jokes" about items in the news. To mention it in the same sentence as the DAILY SHOW or COLBERT is a gross injustice (and I do mean "gross"). Their comments are so lame you can easily sit through the whole program without cracking a smile. Mostly, they just string together a few non-sequiturs & make references to drugs, under-age sex, and homosexual activity.
    You'd think the Religious Right & GLAAD would be equally offended, but it's still on FOX....go figure!

    Posted by: JONNY NYNY2FLFL | Apr 11, 2008 10:13:05 AM


  10. A child wants loving parents. Most kids don't actually care if they're straight, gay, transgendered or Klingon, frankly.

    The Fox Noise buffoons are mocking this person because she represents a commonly belittled minority (transgendered people) and because of the unique circumstances they can take the gloves off and be as hateful and foul as they truly are.

    "Crapped out an Ewok?"

    That's robbing parents and child of their humanity. It's victimizing them as subhuman. And it's marking them for attack.

    Please call Fox News to complain. After massive floating head John Gibson launched his hateful homophobic attack on Heath Ledger he lost his show. These losers should go likewise.

    Posted by: FASTLAD | Apr 11, 2008 10:52:18 AM


  11. Lord, Lord, oh, Lawdy Lord.

    Until you homos do right by transgendered gay people, you aint gonna' ever see full civil rights yourselves...that goes for black folks too. And that's my AYNHOREH on the oppressed communities who oppress others(a little black vernacular, a little Yiddish...comprende?)

    Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Apr 11, 2008 11:31:39 AM


  12. How does this relate to this week's South Park episode??

    Posted by: anon | Apr 11, 2008 12:28:21 PM


  13. Why would she go on this show? That's what they do. They are a bunch of assholes. I wish she would have opted out of an appearance with a group of such morons.

    Posted by: Sweet Baby James | Apr 11, 2008 12:33:14 PM


  14. Red Eye is the most unfunny show on television. It's supposed to be comedy with a "conservative twist", but it only shows how pathetic and morose conservatives are. Regardless, if you have a womb and you get pregnant, you are a woman no matter how you wish to identify yourself. Beatty is a man in her own mind, but the biological facts speak for themselves.

    Posted by: mike | Apr 11, 2008 1:55:54 PM


  15. Those fucking Fox Neanderthal conservatives should all be fired... thrown out on their sorry asses. What a bunch of hateful, disgusting oxygen-thieves they are! And then some people on here seemingly side with their attitudes? I agree with Derrick from Philly, until we fight ALL gay prejudice our equal civil rights in this country will be something that just sails on by!

    Posted by: CK | Apr 11, 2008 2:49:28 PM


  16. It is because of people thinking or acting like this that lead to Lawrence King being murdered. I'm appauled that FOX would allow such hateful things said on it's network. Those hosts are responsible for the attitude of Lawrence King's Murderer.

    Posted by: Jamison P. Gavin | Apr 11, 2008 3:26:24 PM


  17. Okay, I found the Slate link to the article on Transhumanism:

    http://www.slate.com/id/2142987/

    This will provide people with a broader perspective on what is going on here. Derrick and others might want to attend their next conference!

    Posted by: anon | Apr 11, 2008 4:21:51 PM


  18. PistolPetey,

    When I wrote about the egocentrism of our times, just where did I go wrong? Hmmmm?

    Your response to my post demonstrates that you aren't judgmental enough (except when condemning the opinions of conservative thinkers).

    In today's political climate, I am a right-winger, and damn proud to be one, too. Left-wingers like yourself have succumbed to the notion that procreation is a self-regarding action and therefore off-limits for judgments by anyone else. But procreation isn't a self-regarding action. Beattie couldn't care less about the effect of his choice on others, including his baby.

    Beattie wants the child to acknowledge and respect him as a male, but also as a mother. He wants the same from society at large. But what fucked-up bullshit is that? Motherhood and maleness are mutually exclusive. Unless we are now to accept that a 'trans-man' is simply a woman who plays at being a man -- and then perhaps only part of the time.

    The fact that almost all the commenters here accept Beattie's actions without a cavil, and condemn any and all criticism of them, demonstrates the devotion to identity politics among the gay left.

    So strong is this devotion you have actually bought the nonsense that transsexualism and homosexuality are intrinsically linked politically and that there really is a GLBT community.

    Posted by: DC | Apr 11, 2008 11:52:45 PM


  19. Fox and the Right never cease to amaze me... this sort of hate speech has a historical precedents in the 1920s in a certain country in Europe... I bet these bullies feel great after there romp in the playground...

    Posted by: Martin Smith | Apr 12, 2008 1:15:29 PM


  20. DC

    If there is a strong positive desire to have a child and raise that child in a loving environment, then I don't see why there is an issue with who is conceiving the child and the whether they are straight, gay, male, female, whatever. What exactly is so egocentric about wanting to have a child?

    Posted by: keno | Apr 12, 2008 2:03:47 PM


  21. DC, what fucking planet are you from? Are you even gay? Have you been so consumed by the selfish and self-righteous right wing ideology that you so happily spout that you have lost any trace of compassion? I know that Republicans are generally known to be "I am fine in the way I am so fuck anyone else who is not like me" attitude, but you have really plumbed that selfish arrogance to an astonishing depth!

    How can you talk for Beattie and the thoughts behind having the baby? YOU are the one so blinded by your conservative ideology that you cannot even conceive that he may actually REALLY want a child for the same reasons ANY other potential parent might. YOU have no idea. Only your prejudice forces your narrow mind to believe that he is being selfish, instead of a potentially caring nurturing and amazing parent.

    But that does not fit into the right-wing ideal of moth-eaten Ozzie and Harriet clones. This is NOT the world of the Stepford Wives, it is real life, and it is Beattie's real life, thankfully, and NOT yours.

    Posted by: CK | Apr 12, 2008 6:35:47 PM


  22. Keno,

    I cannot say that wanting a child is egocentric, although most people want children for their own self-interested reasons.

    My point about Beattie's attitude fitting in with the egocentrism of our time is that Beattie expects his child to have a mother who, from the very time he was conceived, wanted to be accepted as a man. That isn't fair to the child. But Beattie doesn't care; his (her?) desire to reproduce is all that matters. Which is selfishness, pure and simple.

    Posted by: DC | Apr 13, 2008 2:13:06 AM


  23. CK,

    I'm from planet Earth. And whether or not I'm gay is wholly irrelevant to the topic at hand.

    My opinion on this matter has nothing to do with political ideology. It has to do with my belief that every human being has a right to what is natural: a woman for a mother and a man for a father.

    Your ideological response -- complete with bigoted comment about Republicans -- is filled with common assumptions of today's left-wing, 'progressive' thinking: Everything is political; People are entitled to whatever they want for themselves and no one is ever to ask whether a person should want such; Minorities are never to be criticized; Gays and transexuals form a single political-identity unit. All of which is rubbish.

    I do not assume to know why Beattie wants to bear a child. Nor do I care. The selfishness I address concerns wanting to the child to accept a birth-mother who was living as, legally known as, a male.

    Beattie could care less what effect this has on the child. It's all about Beattie's right to reproduce.

    I point this out and am branded as hateful. Your criticism (and others in this forum) just prove my point about the egocentrism of our times -- which the secularist, progressive movement celebrates: "People today are so into their own egos they think being told they shouldn't have something they want is tantamount to being murdered."

    Posted by: DC | Apr 13, 2008 2:31:57 AM


  24. DC,

    The question one must ask then is, does having a transgendered parent negatively affect a child? How different is that (or how much more challenging is that) than other facets / difference in family structures outside of what we consider "the nuclear family"?

    I don't see an issue with transgendered parent.. is the parent is willing to love and raise the child in love, where does the ego go into it? What is wrong with parents wanting to have biological offspring? From my understanding, the wife in this relationship could not conceive...

    Posted by: Keno | Apr 14, 2008 7:59:58 PM


  25. LoL, get a clue; it was a joke. Some of you are so sensitive. So, it's okay for other late night television programs to make jokes, but not the guys that happen to be on FOX. Besides, their comments were not as bad as anyone else's. I guess it's okay for a left winger to make fun of someone but if you lean a little to the right, watch out. Hypocrites!

    Posted by: AS | Nov 18, 2008 3:23:49 AM


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