1. RB says

    This is a joke! Look, W is NOT running for election. His time is up. When will the dems get that? And as for Pelosi, she has been the MOST ineffective speaker in history. Time for her to go and that has nothing to do with my dislike for her political views. Which I might add are great! However, she and her little puppet Reid have accomplished absolutely nothing!!!

    This is just another reason to cause division in the party/country. Simply laughable. Trust me when I say this, I will be the most happy repub, or dem for that matter, in the country on January 20, 2009. He is not a republican…he SPENDS TOO MUCH MONEY!

  2. Chester says

    These attacks on Pelosi seem uninformed. She did stop SS privatization and is holding the line on the telecom immunity. She’s stopped many spending bills, postponing them until the next administration and has derailed the Colombia free trade bill Bush wanted.

    Right now, however strong the Dems resolve, they just do not have enough votes.

  3. Disgusted American says

    Dennis Kucinich is the ONLY one who stands out,and believes in what he says…shame there are not more like him! He’s a man,before his time…GO KUCINICH!

  4. JJ says

    Well it’s about time someone in the Democratic Party grew a pair and is trying to get this clown out of office. Too bad it’s years too late. By the time this makes it through the courts, George Bush will already be back on his ranch herding cattle.

  5. 24play says

    To hell with impeachment. After December 20, 2009, send Bush to the Hague (or maybe, for maximum symbolism, Nuremberg) to be prosecuted for war crimes. And send Cheney, Yoo, Addington, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Powell with him.

  6. Dan says

    LOL you guys take him seriously, but moderates (and most rational human beings) regard him as a total idiot. His economic ideas make Kim Jong Il blush with embarrassment. He should put on a jester hat because that’s what he is — A JOKE.

  7. anon says

    Dennis is four years too late, the country could have impeached Bush in 2004, but did not, which is the real point Pelosi was making. Blame Kerry for being a lousy prosecutor.

  8. peterparker says

    It’s about time someone tried to impeach the lying motherfucker in the White House. Unfortunately, this effort is about 4 years overdue and, at this point, pretty much pointless. All the same, I LOVE Kucinich!!!

  9. Bill W says

    With leaders like Pelosi and Reid, we don’t need Democrats.

    “moderates (and most rational human beings) regard him as a total idiot”

    “Moderates” (ie, ppl who would’ve been called right-wingers 30 years ago) generally don’t know shit about shit.

  10. paul says

    RB, nothing about this is a joke! Bill Clinton was in his second term when he was frivolously impeached, and what George Bush has done is infinitesimally more severe. You can say he’s not a Republican if you like, but he is. And even more importantly, he was put into office by Republicans.

    Thank God for Kucinich who has the balls to do what is right, even if the other Democrats are spineless wastes of space who are there only to line their own pockets.

    Bob Barr 2008!

  11. Garst says

    Who cares how long Bush has left in office, treason is one of the highest criminal acts you can commit in this and about every other country. Leting him off without charging him with anything would be a crime in itself.

  12. Castaway says

    Would this at least keep him from doing his presidential pardons just before leaving office? That alone is reason enough to move to impeach at this stage of the game.

  13. nic says

    Impeachment resolutions made by members of the House of Representatives are turned over to the House Judiciary Committee which decides whether the resolution and its allegations of wrongdoing by the President merits a referral to the full House for a vote on launching a formal impeachment inquiry. The entire House of Representatives votes for or against a formal impeachment inquiry, needing only a simple majority (a single vote) for approval. If approved, the House Judiciary Committee conducts an investigation to determine (similar to a grand jury) if there is enough evidence to warrant articles of impeachment (indictments) against the President. The Committee then drafts articles of impeachment pertaining to specific charges supported by the evidence. The Committee votes on each article of impeachment, deciding whether to refer each article to the full House for a vote. If the House Judiciary Committee refers one or more articles of impeachment, the entire House of Representatives votes on whether the article(s) merit a trial in the Senate, needing only a simple majority for approval. If the full House approves at least one article of impeachment, the President is technically impeached and the matter is referred to the U.S. Senate. The House then appoints members of Congress to act as managers (prosecutors). The trial of the President is held in the Senate with the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court presiding. The President can be represented by anyone he chooses. He may appear personally or leave his defense in the hands of his lawyers. The entire Senate may conduct the trial or it or it may be delegated to a special committee which would report all the evidence to the full Senate. The actual trial is conducted in a courtroom-like proceeding including examination and cross-examination of witnesses. During questioning, Senators remain silent, directing all questions in writing to the Chief Justice. After hearing all of the evidence and closing arguments, the Senate deliberates behind closed doors then votes in open session on whether to convict or acquit the President. The vote to convict must be by a two thirds majority, or 67 Senators. If this occurs, the President is removed from office and is succeeded by the Vice President. The Senate’s verdict is final and there is no right of appeal.

    given this complex, time consuming process, there is nothing to be gained by following it to its inevitable failure. there is no way that the dems in the senate are going to get 16 repubs and the traitorous lieberman on board. moreover, it would be a major distraction while the dems need to concentrate on taking back the white house. nancy pelosi is no fool.

    24PLAY, i’m with you on holding the bush yahoos to account after they leave office. but don’t forget gonzales, perle, and wolfowitz. the entire cowardly coterie should be tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

    CHESTER, people who say that pelosi is not doing her job don’t understand how our govt works. they need to take a remedial course on american democracy. but, i don’t have the time to teach them. do you?

  14. Jimmyboyo says

    in the spirit of the Haque comment

    There are a couple countries Cheney and or Rumsfeld for war crimes if they ever step foot in their territory for crimes against humanity.

    A Vermont township passed a measure that would arrest Bush and or Cheney for war crimes if they ever set foot on their land.

  15. Bill Perdue, RainbowRED says

    Bush won’t be tried for his genocide against the Iraqis for the same reason Clintons wasn’t. Oil piracy is the policy of the rulers of the US and of the owners of the Democratic (sic) and Republican parties.

    Bill Clinton’s food and medicine embargo was the direct cause of the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi babies and children. Bush presided over the ongoing murder of additional hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children and adults. And Obama will do exactly the same when it’s his turn at bat. “Phased withdrawal” is candidatespeak for “we’re staying as long as we damn well want to.” It’s a lie that only the clueless fall for.

    It’s sad but expected that partisan Democrats and Republicans and their lapdog apologists would think its ok to give Clinton and Bush a pass for their double genocide, even if it is a “complex, time consuming process”.

    It SHOULD be painstakingly drawn out like the Nuremberg trials. We don’t want to give any of these Democrats and Republicans a chance to forget the dead or have any confusion about how they died or who killed them.

  16. nic says


    i’ve never been called a lapdog apologist, at least not by anyone with whom i was going to fuck doggy-style later. thanx, i guess(?).

    is it too much to expect that you maintain your focus on the subject and the time constrainsts we are given to address it?
    other than blowing out the candle and cursing the darkness, what is your solution?

    despite your bloviating, the walls of capitalistic jericho are not goin’a come a’ tumblin’ down. the best hope for this country is the type of liberal-socialism that has kept the scandinavian countries at the forefront of social progress.

    that may happen soon, that may happen never. but what i want to know, “bill ‘ buzzkill’ perdue,” is what is the alternative between now and november?

  17. RB says

    Paul, you are confused my dear friend. Clinton, AN ATTORNEY, LIED UNDER OATH! Now, I personally voted for him, twice, and supported him 100% until he LIED UNDER OATH! Sorry, Bush did not unzip his pants and violate the very essance of his profession: the law! What he has done you may not like, you may hate but it was not illegal. Clinton actually broke a law. Yes this whole thing is a joke and we are the ones that are paying the price.

    And again, W may have been elected by the repubs but he is not a real republican. HE SPENDS TOO MUCH MONEY! Reagan would roll over in his grave if he knew how much money that man is spending. A JOKE, Kucinich and Bush!!!

  18. Jimmyboyo says


    Reagan spent money like it was water as well. Reagan created a huge deficit.

    True, Bush would be more properly called a neo conservative/ the new wave of repubs, but you can not distance bush from the repub party so easily.

    The repub principals that you are thinking of that Bush has betrayed would be more at home in the modern libertarian party.

    The repub party is lost, you might as well become a libertarian and just give up on the GOP in my personal crazy opinion.

  19. Jimmyboyo says


    bush has broken laws far worse than a lie about a personal matter.

    When the US signed on to the 4 TREATIES of the Geneva convention, it became legaly binding on the USA. All signed treaties become binding legal matters. The supreme court has even ruled that state power has no inherent limiting power on treaties

    Bush circumvented, stretched, abused, and out and out ordered the total disregard of many parts of the signed 4 legaly binding TREATIES of the Geneva Convention so we could torture people. Besides torture as pointed out by Kucinich, the US under Bush’s illegal orders have comited international crimes by holding minors as prisoners of war, planting mines in farm land, etc

    Bush has no authority to disregard or nullify any signed treaty without the same 2/3 of the Senate that it takes to approve a treaty.

    BUT!!!!!!!!!! thanks to a bunch of slimy senators, in particular the majority of repubs bush is supposedly retroactively protected from prosecution on such.

    The retroactive forgiveness by the senate does not mean that he did not comit illegal acts to begin with.

    That is just one example of Bush’s illegalities which far outstrip what Bill did.

  20. Dan says

    i agree with Pelosi. She doesn’t have enough votes to impeach, so why waste the time and money. She has been effective in BLOCKING many of GW’s dumber attempts at prolonging the war, and removing our privacy rights. please don’t hold her responsible for the conservative democrats who side with the republicans. they are the ones who are blocking progress.

  21. FunMe says

    NOTHING is ever too late, especially when you have a complacent Congress and Senate from the Democratic Party who is more interesting in “winning” elections than fulfilling their CONSTITUTIONAL DUTIES for impeaching someone who deserves it like bush.

    Just take a look at even what “Middle America” thinks. At the USA TODAY poll, over 68% are in agreement that bush should be impeached.

    Our US of A is a nation of LAWS. When Clinton was impeached it was about lies that had more to do with sex than with real “crimes and misdemeanors” of the bush crime family administration.

    Something tells me (and I have GREAT instincts) that Obama will become US President and will kick and impeach that SOB bush.

    THANK YOU DENNIS KUCINICH. Despite the naysayers, you have been the TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT.

    F bush! f c heney! f Pelosi for failing to represent WE THE PEOPLE.

  22. RB says

    Jimmyboyo, you are correct! The republican party has been hijacked by the neo-cons and it angers me beyond belief!!! I am fighting to hang on. The one thing I can say about McCain is that he will not pander to the Christian right! I cannot stand W and I am going to be able to tell my kids one day that NO I NEVER VOTED FOR HIM. However, I cannot just turn my back on everything that I believe in and say that I am a dem. And yes, I do believe that I am a libertarian up to the point of the whole drug issue. However, I do not see any libs making it to the whitehouse so I will have to vote elsewhere for now.

  23. Jimmyboyo says


    Some advise. Let go. Don’t hang on. Go Libertarian. I will disagree with you on many issues as a Libertarian, but I can so respect that more than the modern repub party.

    “McCain is that he will not pander to the Christian right”

    I have to disagree.

    1- Admirably described Falweel , Robertson, and others of their ilk as charlatans/ evil snake oil salesmen/ etc. THEN he went and kissed Falwell’s ring because power has blinded John mccain to who he once was

    2- sought out some crazy far righter xtians to endorse him to shore up his support with such thus pandering to them

    3- Having a 0 rating on pro choice issues he none the less did not want to have roe vs wade overturned. He now does which is 100% oander to the christian right

    3- Calling america a christian nation is pandering to them when in fact it was mostly created by deist children of the enlightenment utilizing pagan models such as Rome, Greece, British Common Law (predates xtianity ariving in Briatn by centuries), and the Iriquois nation

    Mccain has pandered big time to the religous right due to lusting after the brass ring

    Mccain of 2000 is long gone and forgotten. Which is sad because the mccain of 2000 was actualy a decent repub

    PS on the drug issue, the founders grew hemp. Hemp was in fact the largest cash crop export from the colonies providing oil, hemp fibers, medicine, animal fodder, and some good old fashion relaxation. :-)

  24. On a Side Note... says

    Dennis Kucinich also believes he has been visited by aliens, shares Shirley MacLaines beliefs in past lives and probably communes with Ramtha.

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