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Elton John Says Gays Should Want Separate But Equal

Elton John and David Furnish (and, according to USA Today, their cocker spaniels Marilyn and Arthur), in New York for Monday's annual benefit for the Elton John AIDS Foundation, told the paper that gays and lesbians should be happy with civil partnerships and forget the fight for marriage equality.

Furnish_eltonSaid Elton: "We're not married. Let's get that right. We have a civil partnership. What is wrong with Proposition 8 is that they went for marriage. Marriage is going to put a lot of people off, the word marriage...I don't want to be married. I'm very happy with a civil partnership. If gay people want to get married, or get together, they should have a civil partnership. The word marriage, I think, puts a lot of people off. You get the same equal rights that we do when we have a civil partnership. Heterosexual people get married. We can have civil partnerships."

However, as folks in New Jersey in civil partnerships have discovered, separate but equal is not equal. Seems those in Connecticut felt the same way.

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  1. Gee thanks, Elton, but in THIS country, Separate But Equal has already been declared UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Elton's been hanging out with Eminem too long, it has softened his brains.

    Posted by: Roscoe | Nov 12, 2008 3:38:34 PM


  2. Elton is so "last generation" in his thinking.

    Posted by: Marc in Chicago | Nov 12, 2008 3:41:53 PM


  3. So because Elton John personally doesn't want to get married, he doesn't think any gays should have the right to get married?

    Thankfully I've never liked his music enough to support his career.

    Posted by: Eric | Nov 12, 2008 3:42:16 PM


  4. Fine, if you live in a country where "Separate by equal" means "separate but equal", but not the case in the US.

    I sort of agree with Elton; it is that word "Marriage" that is polarizing groups. I've always said let the bible thumpers own it, but if my partner and I want to have a civil ceremony and become common law spouses, then give us that right. I could care less if there is a cross on the wall and a drag queen with a burning purse residing over it. Just give me the piece of paper telling us we are legally bound.

    THAT is the right I will fight to have.

    You can keep the word "Marriage".

    Posted by: Rad | Nov 12, 2008 3:44:53 PM


  5. Would that irrelevant queen STFU already?

    Posted by: Shane | Nov 12, 2008 3:46:04 PM


  6. This from a guy who remained closeted for much of the 70s and 80s, EVEN THOUGH most of the world knew he was gay. He self-identified as bi (nothing wrong with that), married a woman, and then later finally came out.

    I agree with Marc, Elton's mindset is stuck in the past.

    Posted by: EricLA | Nov 12, 2008 3:47:46 PM


  7. I suppose Elton also thought that black people should have been fine sitting at the back of the bus since a lot of people in the 60's and earlier would have been put off by letting them sit anywhere else. I for one will never listen to his music again.

    Posted by: stevein denver | Nov 12, 2008 3:48:02 PM


  8. Wow! I just lost a hell of a lot of respect for Elton.

    See you all at the protest in NYC tonight!

    Posted by: Jon-Marc | Nov 12, 2008 3:48:17 PM


  9. the word douchebag comes to mind.

    Posted by: alguien | Nov 12, 2008 3:48:21 PM


  10. Who needs Elisabeth Hasselbeck when you have Elton John spewing right wing talking points?

    Posted by: JohnInManhattan | Nov 12, 2008 3:48:56 PM


  11. Um...
    Can we revoke his membership???

    Posted by: David | Nov 12, 2008 3:49:36 PM


  12. This is a generational gaffe. Sorry dear Elton, love ya dearly, but your age makes you not see so clearly.

    Posted by: Quint King | Nov 12, 2008 3:52:19 PM


  13. What Sir Elton doesn't understand is that unlike U.K., U.S. civil unions/partnerships are granted by the state, and ignored by the federal government. "...You get the same equal rights that we do when we have a civil partnership." Not. even. close.

    Posted by: Jim | Nov 12, 2008 3:53:08 PM


  14. he's never been proud.

    Posted by: Pbar | Nov 12, 2008 3:56:19 PM


  15. Let the church call it "Holy Matrimony", and the rest of us can take "marriage".

    Posted by: ank | Nov 12, 2008 3:56:28 PM


  16. Sad. Would someone tell that windbag to STFU!!!!! Have a great protest in NYC tonight. the one in Silverlake last Saturday ws electrifying, looking forward to city hall his Saturday.

    http://angeladam.com/SilverlakeGayProtest/

    Posted by: busytimmy | Nov 12, 2008 3:56:42 PM


  17. Remember, Elton used to be married -- to a woman.

    Sorry dear but you missed the boat.

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Nov 12, 2008 3:58:37 PM


  18. This from the gentleman who solicited male escorts at least up until that little ceremony of his. Clearly "marriage" isn't his bag.

    Posted by: freddy | Nov 12, 2008 3:58:54 PM


  19. Sorry! not these days. those are out-of-date comments from an old codger whose grateful for the crumbs off the table

    Posted by: step | Nov 12, 2008 4:01:34 PM


  20. Somebody break the news to Elton, gay marriage is already a fact in Belgium, Canada, Netherlands, Norway (2009-1-1),South Africa and Spain. The Netherlands was the first country to legalize gay marriage.
    In Canada there is no difference between gay and straight marriage, they are the same, including the right to adopt children.
    Elton is an old fool.

    Posted by: Lars | Nov 12, 2008 4:05:02 PM


  21. Just because you don't want to get married, doesn't want everyone is like that. *YOU* should be happy with it, I'm not going to. God, that comment of his just makes me angry.

    Posted by: Brendan | Nov 12, 2008 4:11:01 PM


  22. Elton John frames the Prop 8 question as though the LGBT community were attempting to legalize SSM through the ballot process, which is wholly inaccurate. Marriage had been declared a question of equality when the California Supreme Court struck down the state ban in May of this year. Prop 8, as we all know, is a matter of taking away fundamental rights as citizens. He's clearly uninformed and speaking irresponsibly.

    Posted by: Ken C | Nov 12, 2008 4:13:27 PM


  23. He's such an idiot. He has not said anything smart in 30 years. Why he is a gay icon is beyond me. Plenty of STRAIGHT stars are better gay icons that this fucked up queen, who don't forget married a woman at one point to escape his true identity.

    Posted by: Matthew Rettenmund | Nov 12, 2008 4:14:07 PM


  24. The sad thing is the bigots will take things like this to make gays who support marriage equality seem 'out of touch' and 'fringe'.

    See? Elton John's happy. He agrees with us. You are trying to take marriage from heteros, because it belongs to them.

    He should just shut up and collect royalties.

    Posted by: Wes | Nov 12, 2008 4:15:17 PM


  25. In this country, Civil Unions DON'T provide the same benefits as marriage, not even in California, and I'm not just talking about the symantics of the name. For example, insurance benefits granted to a partner in a civil union are taxable; they are tax-free to a married partner. Civil unions are generally not recognized in other states. If DOMA is repealed, you can sponsor your spouse for immigration, but not your civil union partner. And so forth.

    I'd be fine if civil unions were the legal partnership for everyone, and "married" was a religious institution with no legal standing outside of the respective church. But getting that concept to pass is a lot harder than simply allowing same-sex partners to marry.

    Posted by: RS | Nov 12, 2008 4:24:16 PM


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