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New York Newsman's Teen Killer is Knife-Collecting Satanist

Katehis

Gawker has posted some photos, from the MySpace profile of John Katehis, identified by the New York Post as the 16-year-old  who confessed to the murder of WABC newsman George Weber. The two apparently met via an ad Weber had placed on Craigslist.

Writes Katehis in his profile: "I like to do crazy and wild things.im like an adrenaline junkie, I'm always looking for a big thrill, I'm a big risk taker and like to live life on the edge.I am an Extremist, an Anarchist,and a Sadomasochist. As long as you show respect for me i will show respect for you, if you disrespect me, then i will fucking break your neck."

Katehis also has a YouTube page full of prank phone calls.

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  1. Where are the parents in this situation? This self-described "anarchist" was obviously living at home. How does a 16 year-old put together a knife collection like that? Did the parents know about his elaborately designed YouTube page with all the prank calls? Bottom line: he may be at the age of consent in New York state, but he is a very fucked up adolescent who, apparently, can do whatever he wants without parental scrutiny.

    Posted by: Joe | Mar 25, 2009 3:43:53 PM


  2. ERIC,

    after seeing the New York Post video of the "boy", now I do say that Mister Weber was playing a foolishly dangerous game. The boy looks younger in person (I think), and seems diabolical. He should have told the murderer "never mind".

    I just have a problem with this eternal image of the predatory adult homosexual going after teenage boys. Someone would have to prove to me that the percentage of adult homosexuals who like young young partners is greater than the percentage of adult heterosexuals who like them young. Straight guys are always after "young stuff"--nobody calls them "predatory trolls".

    Is it that "we have to do better than they do." ERIC, black folks tried that philosophy for years...didn't do no good--it can drive people crazy.

    Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Mar 25, 2009 3:49:17 PM


  3. GIOVANNI,

    good comment. but it is hard for me to be sympathetic with someone who blindly negotiates with an unknown entity. the person could be an angel as likely as he could be a drug-addled sociopath.

    Posted by: nic | Mar 25, 2009 3:50:40 PM


  4. This is sad. I've not seen the ad, so I'll try not to judge, but clearly the deceased was seeking out some pretty hardcore stuff. And I would NOT do that on Craigslist. Or with a child. Or with someone I didn't get to speak with on the phone and via emails many times before actually meeting. Yes, he was sloppy.

    BUT... that doesn't mean he deserved to be murdered. Maybe he needed counseling himself, but death, uhm, no.

    As for this kid. *sigh* He'll go to trial, and the best the state will get is life in prison since a minor cannot be put to death. And he's already putting forth a mental health defense. And these pics and whatnot are hurting and helping him at the same time... it shows a proclivity to violence, but many adult jurors will wonder where his parents were. And don't be surprised if facts confirming drugs and some sort or abuse come out as soon as, or even before. this case goes to trial.

    No one wins on this one.

    Posted by: DR | Mar 25, 2009 4:26:34 PM


  5. I guess the point of this is to have a new respect for gays...

    Posted by: Janie | Mar 25, 2009 4:28:10 PM


  6. Grown people REALLY crawl around with leashes on? This is a joke, right?

    Posted by: Janie | Mar 25, 2009 4:31:08 PM


  7. while I am not passing judgment it is funny how this story is being played in the media. This BOY OF 16 YEARS savagely murdered a man he met on-line that he had agreed to have sex with. In the media all i've been hearing and seeing is how he's "A satanic homosexual boy with a knife fetish". LET US NOT FORGET THAT THIS 40 SOMETHING YEAR OLD MAN SOLICITED HIM ON-LINE, GAVE HIM COCAINE AND ALCOHOL, AND THEN HAD SEX WITH HIM. I AM NOT TRYING TO JUSTIFY MURDER AT ALL BUT I AM SAYING THAT NO ONE IN THIS CASE IS COMPLETELY INNOCENT. If this boy had not killed his solicitor and statutory raper (charge 1& 2), the man who contributed to his delinquency as a minor (charge 4 & 5 for the coke and alcohol) WE ALL KNOW this story would have been totally different. Again I say it is really NOT OUR PLACE to judgement on this boy. What he did was in NO WAY RIGHT AT ALL BUT, WHAT WAS DONE TO HIM WAS NOT INNOCENT EITHER. He, his family, and the family of the victim needs our prays, positive vibes, or whatever you want to call it. NOT OUR CONDEMNATION.

    Posted by: chris | Mar 25, 2009 4:41:45 PM


  8. JANIE,

    S&M (sadomasochism) is just as big among heteros as it is among homos. You need to rent Paulo Pasolini's "Salo"...no, nevermind. You wouldn't last through the first 15 minute...then, again...

    The poster Ugh is trying to take this discussion to a level that is just impossible for many of you to deal with. The attraction to youthful females by heterosexual men is documented throughout history...in Europe, Asia, Africa, the Americas, every fuckin' where. How old was Mary when she gave birth to...oh, nevermind, that was immaculate, wasn't it?

    JANIE, do you and other posters know that up until about 40 years ago the age of conscent in many of these United States was 14 or younger (for a girl)? It may be that society has to "train" or socialize grown men (heteros especially) into NOT going after 15 olds.

    There are too many intelligent gay men who come to this blog who seem terrified of this topic--terrified to the point of stiffling intellectual discussion of it.

    How old was Sally Hemmings when one of our great founder fathers, Thomas Jefferson, started fucking her?

    Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Mar 25, 2009 4:52:11 PM


  9. janie

    Nope. Straight, Gay, and Bi kink players do crawl around on the floor. heck even no kink people try it once or twice. Just crawl across the floor towards your lover while trying to be sexy , you might have fun

    Derrick from Philly

    Yeah

    First, leather and kink can and often are 2 different things. Most leather queens don't do anything kinky while the kinkiest guys I have ever met generally prefer to dress like jocks/preppy

    There is a wide range of kinks from soft to mid level (old school represented with grey hankie) and hard core (old school hankie code = black hankie whether right sub or left dom)

    some of the hard core dangerous stuff

    BC= breath control (from hands over mouth to actual hanging and drowning play scenes on the extreme end)

    knife play
    gun play
    blood sports
    branding
    cigar burns
    scarification
    etc

    I myself can and do enjoy kink now and again...WS, FF a hot ass, spanking, bondage, Dom/sub, etc....BUT the hard core stuff is dangerous.

    People into the hard core stuff usually crave the adrenaline high that such can cause and end up addicted to such a high and seek even more and more dangerous situations to stimulate the adrenaline and endorphins for the high.

    Not to judge any of my hard core craving brothers and sisters whether gay or straight, BUT doing such with youthful people = danger and possible death. Older partners with experience in such is the safest and smartest way to go.

    Anyway; I wouldn't class this as murder but probably more manslaughter. Hard core knife play + blood sports add in inexperienced youthful dude and drugs = unintended death = manslaughter.

    weber should have seeked advice on his apparent craving for hard core kink. There are many kink groups that can give advice such as SIGMA, Black Rose, etc. All areas have local KINK groups with at least experienced people that can give advice on how to make sure you are safe even with the hard core stuff.

    Posted by: jimmyboyo | Mar 25, 2009 5:02:16 PM


  10. Clearly no one is completely in the clear in this case, but a guy lost his life and in a pretty gruesome way. This kid's beyond salvage, and his dad looks like a real loser...at least on myspace. Very depressing.


    And no, I'm not afraid of that POP EVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOLOGY (in modern benefactor of E.O. WIlson's sociobiology) debate. It's just that people confuse pseudo science with scientific fact, and become--in the inimitable words of stephen jay gould-- adaptationist fundamentalists trying to explain every thought, desire, and accident in terms of human evolution in a JUST SO STORY concocted out of thin air without a shred of evidence. This is an abuse of science and evolutionary theory. CHeck out thornhill and palmer's work and its good criticism in their attempts at reducing rape to MORE than just a reproductive strategy, but a GENETICALLY HARDWIRED predisposition in males. It's embarrassingly vapid unscientific fiction.


    Posted by: TANK | Mar 25, 2009 5:37:25 PM


  11. Chris,

    unfortunately we have not gotten to a point where we as gay men can accept any responsibility for our actions. It's always "society" or "straight" who do things to us that we have no control over. So, the fact that a 47 year old man gave an underage boy cocaine and alcohol means nothing. The victim must remain unspoiled, despite what the obvious facts say.

    Posted by: Yowza | Mar 25, 2009 5:41:59 PM


  12. Anybody who calls himself an "anarchist" is a doofus. I'm surprised he didn't live in the silly East Village.

    Posted by: JT | Mar 25, 2009 5:56:35 PM


  13. Looks like a haterosexual male who wanted to kill a gay man.

    You should always call before you hook up and talk. That way you hear his voice and get an idea if he is really gay or not.

    STFU with the haterosexual penetration outlook BS. Haterosexuals believe that if you penetrate someone than you are guilty. That is why teen boys can fuck their much older FEMALE teachers and very little punishment happens. Meanwhile if you are an older heterosexual male, older gay man or older lesbian you are assumed to be guilty because they believe you are doing the penetration. Haterosexual identity is based on SEX. That's why whenever haterosexuals question gay people they always bring up sex. It's projection. In gay relationships haterosexual roles don't apply. A younger man can be equal to or dominant over an older man. Same goes for lesbians. It has nothing to do with penetration, age, height or income. Usually gay relationships are egalitarian.

    Posted by: Bill | Mar 25, 2009 6:22:57 PM


  14. Unless I missed something in the story, we don't know exactly what the ad said. We don't know if the kid posted or sent pictures or how old he said he was (a posting from a 16 year old would get flagged and removed pretty quickly, so I'm guessing he said he was older---he looks older to me). We don't even know when S&M came into the picture.

    Weber's colleagues have nothing but accolades for him, and he was closeted and clearly had problems with his sexuality. I think he was just an unemployed guy looking for cheap sex ($60 sounds cheap to me, anyway) to celebrate his birthday. I don't understand all the vitriol toward him given what we've learned about his extremely troubled killer.

    Posted by: Paul R | Mar 25, 2009 6:42:05 PM


  15. the ugliness of this event notwithstanding, i am getting to know JIMMYBOYO and DERRICK F.P. very well. and i like what i'm hearing.

    Posted by: nic | Mar 25, 2009 7:05:59 PM


  16. This whole story disturbs me,But one of the things that really got me going was the headline..New York Newsman's Teen Killer is Knife-Collecting Satanist.I did not see much of a reference to Satanism,i may be wrong but to put it in the headline like that is wrong.I am a Satanist and have been for over 15 years.No,we are not animal killers,baby snatchers and no we dont do the shit that everyone in the media says we do.It is this kind of ignorance that gives us TRUE Satanists a bad name.And little fucks like this are even worse on our image!I am an upstanding guy who just happens to choose a different religion.Before writing headlines like this people need to research Satanism.The LaVey theory of Satanism is the true form!

    Posted by: Jayson | Mar 25, 2009 8:13:16 PM


  17. Re: Jayson

    oh, lord (no pun intended)

    Posted by: Yowza | Mar 25, 2009 9:10:32 PM


  18. thanxx

    Posted by: music video lyrics | Mar 25, 2009 9:18:56 PM


  19. Yeah, you're basically objectivists who want preacher bucks. And you're both scum!

    Posted by: TANK | Mar 25, 2009 9:35:03 PM


  20. Well, not scum...just confused.

    Posted by: TANK | Mar 25, 2009 9:42:27 PM


  21. NIC

    LOL

    Posted by: jimmyboyo | Mar 25, 2009 11:08:35 PM


  22. Jayson

    lavey? Seriously?

    Ugh!

    First off, I denigrate all religions so don't feel like I am picking on satanism. :-)

    lavey was a spoilt child too weak to be an atheist and dressed up his rebellion against religion in just more religion/ tradition/ ceremony and shiny BS with a spooky twist

    The very essence of supposed satanism is rebellion against authority yet you uphold some nit wit = Lavey as an authority figure

    Lets pretend satan, set, seth, lucifer, typhon is real for a moment. You have 2 paths

    1- a deity/ principal / entity representing chaos/ rebellion separate from any creative being.... Would such a being give 1 seconds worth of notice to ceremony? black candles, pentagrams, and satanic altars. Come on. Chaos/ rebellion REBELS against structure. Ceremony with a pentagram, candles ,etc is still STRUCTURED ceremony and thus the exact opposite of chaos/ rebellion.

    2- a created entity of some other deity (ala satan and the god of jesus' dady). Supposed creature is supposed to be the 1st creation of an all powerful deity. The 1st, greatest, and most beautiful creation. The universe is HUGE = billions of galaxies with billions of solar systems in each one. From our perspective it is infinite. Yet it is not the 1st creation nor greatest creation. Lucifer being greater than what appears to be an infinite universe, do you think such a being would ever take notice of anyone on this dust ball? Seriously, said creature would be so beyond us that we would be less than dust to such and totally beneath such a creature's notice while it continued its rebellion against its creator. Its focus would be on continuing its rebellion at whatever gates heaven would have and luring away even more supposed angels that at least were on some sort of level to which it could relate to. Would you try to get the attention of specks of dust to further your plans? ILLOGICAL in the utmost. Lucifer in the bible myths would never take notice of us to even inspire Levay.

    Anyway; levay knew very little about Egyptian religion when he connected Set/ Seth with his vision of Lucifer/ Satan.

    Set/ Seth at first was a hero god who defended Ra from his enemy Apop. revered so much that pharophs even named themselevs after him = SETI 1 , 2, etc....Later demonized yet even then the ancient egyptians fully expected Set/ Seth to be redeemed at the end and once again take his place as Friend/ uncle/ and co-equal of Horus, brother of Osiris- Isis, and hero defender of Amun-Ra. Redemmed and reunited with the Egyptian Gods / forces of order and to be submissive to such. In the end to submit to Atum since it is Atum's ejaculate that even the gods were made from. In the End Atum will eat his self mastubatory ejaculate =the universe , the gods, ALL and everything will be over for everything except Atum who would most likely jerk off again creating a whole new set of gods, universe, etc from his ejaculate to only eat it once more etc etc ad infinitum

    Anyway; levay knew shit and was weak by turning to another myth = satanism to cover over his rejection of the myths of his parents. Hell, psych 101= his whole fantasy was just funky dressed up rebellion against the authority figures of his parents by rebelling against their religion.

    Just be an atheist and form your own ethical core. Look to reality / nature for inspiration. reality offers 3 options

    1- self absorbed predator prey

    2- selfless symbiotic relations and living with things outside of yoruself

    3- combo of the 2 because in the end even predator prey have a symbiotic relationship in the long run. The 1 feeds the other while the predator in fact pushes the prey species to grow and evolve = become stronger, faster, smarter. beneficial for both when looked at from a larger perspective.


    Away with ALL religions, even satanism

    Posted by: jimmyboyo | Mar 26, 2009 12:01:45 AM


  23. RE:jimmyboyo
    Thanks for your opinion of my choice of religion,But it is my choice and this religion has worked for me all of these years as i am very happy and very comfortable in what i believe in.As being an athiest has worked for you.It has done incredible things in the way i look at situations in my life as it pertains to me.I was not brought up in a home that religion was forced on me,which i was grateful to be able to form my own opinions.Which seems to be your biggest argument.I have just chose to believe in what works for me.Being a Satanist is not ALL about the deities and rebellion.Im not going to debate my religious beliefs with anyone,but as being gay and being a Satanist i am used to the negative connotations of being both and prefer to not be critisized for being who i am.I am just saying that Satanism has gotten a bad reputation by people like these kids who just want to look and sound cool by saying they worship Satan not knowing what being one entails.I in no way am saying that being an Athiest is bad,it just has not worked for me.Believe in what you will or believe in nothing at all.But hey im not angry in any way,just saying what i thought.

    Posted by: Jayson | Mar 26, 2009 1:48:24 AM


  24. "I am just saying that Satanism has gotten a bad reputation by people like these kids who just want to look and sound cool by saying they worship Satan not knowing what being one entails"

    True. They are supposed to worship themselves if true satanists. They are their own gods.

    Also many are young kids who are more baby wannabe anarchists as vs supposed satanist but just don't know any better. (anarchy/chaos stimulates the creative principal so anarchists defeat themselves in the end because their destructiveness only removes old cobweb covered BS so new things may come about)

    Anyway; atheism isn't a "belief" It is logic, fact, science based. Of course one could argue that one becomes an atheist and latter looks to science for facts to support such a choice.

    In the end though "there are no gods" is not a belief but based on empirical evidence.

    Posted by: jimmyboyo | Mar 26, 2009 10:07:15 AM


  25. Why do so many people misspell atheism? People just don't know what it is, either. Atheism isn't a philosophical theory or position; it's not a worldview or belief ABOUT THE WORLD. It's not an ethical theory or system...that's what ethics is for. LOL! It's simply a refusal to believe irrationally in something for which there is no good reason, and good reason to not believe.

    satanist queers? It doesn't get more sketchworthy than that.

    Posted by: TANK | Mar 26, 2009 12:29:04 PM


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