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EVOLUTION: If atheists ruled the world. All text taken directly from online Christian fundamentalist forums.

SUZE ORMAN: T.R. Knight presents Suze Orman with GLAAD's Vito Russo award for promoting equal rights for the LGBT community in New York. Suze asked those gathered to support corporations that support LGBT rights.

G20 PROTESTS: Police move in on demonstrators at the G20 Summit in London.

RYAN MOATS: The officer who detained Moats in a hospital parking lot to give him a speeding ticket while his mother-in-law died speaks to CBS11.

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  1. You have repeatedly conflated atheism with communism, and nazism, and a host of other political and economic beliefs. This is not what atheism is.

    Posted by: TANK | Apr 2, 2009 3:08:24 PM


  2. HistoryFann,

    What about Ayn Rand? She was probably the most anti-communist person to ever live. She was an ardent defender of human liberty in this century and her ideas inspired and continue to inspire people to do great things to defend liberty and capitalism (crony or otherwise). What about Russell Bertrand, Carl Sagan, Norway, Sweden, etc? Just because some atheists do horrible things does not make all atheists horrible people. Are all Christians horrible people because Hilter murdered so many and the colonization of the world by Europe is still screwing it up to this day?

    The problem with atheism is that people will believe in something no matter what. Show me one person with no ideology (who is not mentally impaired in some way). We all believe things even if what we believe is not necessarily coherent and even if we refuse to label those beliefs ourselves. People need 'positive' beliefs about the world. I am a libertarian who mixes in Objectivism (and therefore atheism) and Secular Humanism into my life. I don't know what beliefs you hold, but atheists are no more likely to be destructive than theists. To determine whether or not an atheist will be destructive of others will depend on the particular beliefs they hold which is also true of theists, such as Muslims, Hindus, Christians, Jews, etc.

    I know many atheists who are passionately anti-violence and therefore anti-state. They are as far from communists and nazis as one can be and yet you would argue that rule by any atheist would turn out this?

    Posted by: Jason Young | Apr 2, 2009 10:49:10 PM


  3. JASON YOUNG,

    i think you are grossly overstating her case. i would not embrace Alisa Zinoyevna Roesenbaum, aka ayn rand too closely. she obliterated her past to blend in with western culture. she was more than willing to relinquish her fountain head to the best male available. according to her, "For a woman qua woman, the essence of femininity is hero-worship—the desire to look up to man."

    i will never understand why rational people admire her. her lazy fair economic principles have led us into this abyss. and all of her bullshit has lent credibility to the right-wingers to dismiss equal rights for women (remember the ERA?)and gays.

    libertarianism is little better than conservatism: what's mine is mine, and what's yours can only help me get better.

    yes, HISTORYFANN, is stupid. and, yes, any kind of -ism is by nature bad. that is why i am an agnostic. i don't believe in a god, but i can't disprove its existence.

    Posted by: nic | Apr 3, 2009 6:22:40 AM


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