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Camille Paglia: Gay Activists 'Childish' for Demanding Rights

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Camille Paglia is never at a loss for an opinion about anything. Here's she's interviewed by Canada's Xtra about her break-up with her partner, how long-term lesbian relationships are challenged, Obama, and gay activists who are "childish" for demanding rights when the President has so much on his plate.

I've actually never experienced her on camera before, but something about this reads Mink Stole to me.

Watch, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. Camille certainly loves to hear herself talk, doesn't she? Words, words, words, words, blah, blah, blah.

    But I am getting awfully weary with the "my GOD, he's got SO much on his plate right now" thing. We elected him to solve problems, PLUS act on explicit campaign promises HE made to the GLBT community. And I expect him to make good on those promises.

    Posted by: Terry | Jun 25, 2009 11:53:41 AM


  2. I can't stand that woman. To paraphrase Ethan Mordden: Screw her and screw her college.

    Posted by: Hank Drake | Jun 25, 2009 11:56:37 AM


  3. pure vile scum

    Posted by: Willie | Jun 25, 2009 11:57:47 AM


  4. She's smarter than most people can handle and hence many people find her unacceptable and hard to listen to. That's part of the challenge with intelligent people, few understand them, and then talk down about them.

    Posted by: Sargon Bighorn | Jun 25, 2009 11:58:59 AM


  5. I want am so intrigued by her dead-on personal opinions as they don't tow the kum-ba-ya attitude of the "gay community". To deny that gay parents can mirror exactly the model of straight parents is illuminating. Yes, we can parent, but for the good of the child, not the good of our ego, we have to form a support system for them.

    She is right for calling out the Gay Community for being fickle and turning on a candidate when they don't get instant gratification. In barely over a hundred days Obama has had to tackle an unprecedented series of problems. For laws an attitudes to change you have to work within the status quo. Clinton tried to overturn the ban on gays in the Military and a Democrat dug his heels in and all hell broke loose. What used to be just a policy, then became "law" with Don't Ask Don't Tell. Obama doesn't have the power to remove it, but must go through a process. I agree with Paglia that gays need to stop navel gazing and stop being just aware of their own needs. It DOES make us look petty, weak and self-centered. Change will come and advocacy and education encourages it. A dismissive, scorched earth-policy by gays who refuse to hear any other opinion are just oppressing themselves.

    Posted by: Rob | Jun 25, 2009 12:01:36 PM


  6. Please allow a gay man to say SHE'S RIGHT.

    Posted by: Andy | Jun 25, 2009 12:04:08 PM


  7. I've been with my partner for 30 years and am so fucking tired of hearing "now is not the right time" if not now , when?

    civil rights can not wait--r u listening obama and the democratic majority??

    Posted by: steve | Jun 25, 2009 12:08:18 PM


  8. Oh Andy --- I forget you are an elitist at heart with your famous and wealthy friends.

    This woman is disgusting and condescending and her generalizations are sickening.... but you agree with her.

    No surprise.

    Posted by: Willie | Jun 25, 2009 12:10:08 PM


  9. oh, gawd, camille is the worst of gay culture: the gabby dyke that wil say anything to stay in the spot light. it is clear that she is projecting her intrinsic failures to lesbianism as a whole, and ascribing a stunted, fantastical view of gay men's relationships. where are we to start in defending her diatribe against women. we cannot. it is a dead end street. it has been evident for more than a decade that no smart person takes her seriously. she is the typical shrew, the harpy, the banshee, the whirling dervish that will spin him/herself into delerium (disguised as spiritual understanding). why anyone cares what she thinks, is beyond me.

    there is no warm spot in my heart for her.

    Posted by: nic | Jun 25, 2009 12:10:56 PM


  10. I was under the impression that nearly all of the commenters at Towleroad were gay men.

    And I don't think she's too intelligent for people to understand if they happen to disagree. Thats kinda pretentious. In fact I don't find some of her ideas to be all that intellectually impressive myself.

    She comes across as someone who doesn't really have it all together, honestly.

    Posted by: Wes | Jun 25, 2009 12:13:52 PM


  11. Camille is about as relevant these days as one of Madonna's old cone bras.

    Posted by: ChristopherM | Jun 25, 2009 12:14:56 PM


  12. I wish people would stop misusing the word "intelligent" when describing her.

    The ability to articulate idiocy does not confer intelligence on someone.

    She simply has an unlimited ability to string words together, but they rarely make sense or persuade anyone of anything.

    It is the essence of narcissism: She literally "likes the sound of her own voice."

    Posted by: Jeff NYC | Jun 25, 2009 12:16:05 PM


  13. Willie, I hope you realize the commenter who posted as "Andy" is not the author of this blog. He links to his own blog in the comment.

    Posted by: Wes | Jun 25, 2009 12:16:10 PM


  14. i didn't watch the video, just read your synopsis.

    i don't disagree. i trust he'll get to it. it's been 6 months since he got into office.

    i think people are going overboard at the moment.

    and i'm sure that comment will provoke lots of responses.

    Posted by: kerry | Jun 25, 2009 12:16:29 PM


  15. So... wanting our rights while there are other things going on in the world is "not sophisticated"? Thanks, old guard, we'll take it from here...

    Posted by: Scott B. | Jun 25, 2009 12:18:54 PM


  16. Of course, these bitchy blog commenters are attacking the woman, not her arguments. Look at what she said and argue those points.

    "What is the insularity? We have a new president who is struggling with major crises in the Mideast and the economy is reeling. ... Yes, keep up the drumbeat. [but] ... This is childish. ... After a few months in office, give me a break. Why can't gays show that they have a wider perspective?"

    Posted by: Andy B. | Jun 25, 2009 12:32:02 PM


  17. I understand some of the comments saying Obama has been in office for only 6 months, a little over a days, etc. etc.

    I think the gay community would be more willing to wait if this administration acknowledged their promises to the gay community.

    As it is, Robert Gates gets a severe case of the mumbles whenever any LGBT issue comes up. The candidate that once spoke about equality for LGBT people in the black and fundamentalist churches as president won't even acknowledge Prop 8 or any other LGBT issue directly. It is as if he feels that by mentioning the word "gay," healthcare reform will be stopped and the economy will tank further.

    I understand that Rome wasn't built in a day but this administration seems to have developed selective memory disorder and doesn't even seem to recall any promises about DOMA or DADT.

    Posted by: Ed | Jun 25, 2009 12:36:29 PM


  18. I have read some of her stuff over at Salon.com and she is one of the dumbest most self hating people I've ever come across.

    PS Obama is busy increasing the faith based initiative, expanding Bush's illegal war even further into Afghanistan and Pakistan, giving over $780 billion to corrupt Wall Street corporations, discriminating against gays/lesbians, etc.

    PPS and this is what the Senate is doing...Jun 24th, 2009 | WASHINGTON -- The Senate urged President Barack Obama Wednesday to pardon the late black heavyweight champion Jack Johnson, who was sent to prison nearly a century ago because of his romantic ties with a white woman.

    Senators approved the resolution by voice vote; it now goes to the House.

    Johnson became the first black heavyweight champion in 1908 -- 100 years before Obama was elected the nation's first black president. The boxer was convicted in 1913 of violating the Mann Act, which made it illegal to transport women across state lines for immoral purposes. The law has since been heavily amended, but has not been repealed.

    The resolution was sponsored by Obama's 2008 opponent, Arizona Republican John McCain. Similar resolutions offered in 2004 and last year failed to pass both chambers of Congress.

    http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/2009/06/24/D991BQ301_us_boxing_pardon

    Posted by: Robert | Jun 25, 2009 12:37:58 PM


  19. I can't express enough how much I despise this woman's pseudo-intellectualism to both objectify and justify her obviously deep-seated prejudices. Her ideas are unquantifiable but so wrapped up in important sounding mumbo-jumbo it's challenging for regular folks to dispute her when others cite her for reasoning their own prejudices.

    Dear Camille, how about saying your relationship failed because you personally failed instead of generalizing that lesbian relationships just aren't built that way and that gay men whore around so it's easier for them to stay together?

    Posted by: countervail | Jun 25, 2009 12:38:12 PM


  20. The excuse of "he has too much on his plate" is ludicrous. Are people naive enough to think that the "Chief EXECUTIVE" actually goes out and researches everything, sits alone in a room for hours on end carefully developing his own ideas on what needs to be done, how to do it, the implications that will result...then he really focuses and writes up legislation, etc?

    Idiots. He doesn't do ANY of that. He sits in his office and has THOUSANDS of government employees (paid for by GAY tax dollars) who do ALL of the work and thinking...then when all of the work is done it is brought to him to approve or disapprove. His "plate" is filled with saying yes or no...and maybe signing his name to a few papers.

    No "plate" is "too full" to sign an order providing the most basic civil rights to citizens. That's just a completely fallacious excuse, intended to absolve of all responsibility someone who spent two years begging to be given that very burden. It's despicable.

    Posted by: paul c | Jun 25, 2009 12:40:18 PM


  21. If I could buy her for what she's worth and sell her for what she thinks she's worth, I would make a down payment on that young stud that's working at my fitness center.

    Posted by: Troy | Jun 25, 2009 12:41:44 PM


  22. She is basically insecure and not very bright. She thinks by saying the exact opposite of what we would expect from her, it makes her look more intelligent. Unfortunately we now totally expect her devil's advocate stand and no one takes her very seriously. Poor, sad excuse for an intellectual. She is really not a very nice person - no wonder she got dumped. How long can someone put up with that shit?

    Posted by: Paul | Jun 25, 2009 12:42:12 PM


  23. I don't really understand Paglia. I had a lot of good and earnest feminists willingly reccomend her to me, but lately she seems more and more like an arch-conservative masqurading. I have even further reason to side step her "unique voice" now.

    Posted by: g_whiz | Jun 25, 2009 12:44:49 PM


  24. Andy B., those arguements are nothing new.

    Most gay people were merely anxious before the DOJ brief, thats what sent them over the edge into outrage (and rightfully so).

    Being busy is no excuse to file an offensive legal brief that actively works against us. I understand the DOJ's tendency to defend standing laws, regardless of if the administration supports it, but it was the manner in which the defense was argued that was completely unnecessary.

    Anyways, it will require pressure from us before anything gets done regardless. Do not be so naive as to assume anyone will do anything without action on our part, promises or no promises. Politicians act out of necessity and we need to make our priorities a necessity. If we have any strength or conviction whatsoever, we need to call upon it now.

    Posted by: Wes | Jun 25, 2009 12:47:15 PM


  25. I didn't listen to her and never will. She was the one that wrote an article saying essentially that Mathew Shepard was running around picking up tricks like all gay men and he should have expected something like would happen.

    Posted by: pete | Jun 25, 2009 12:49:07 PM


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