John Berry Offers Disappointing Forecast of Obama's LGBT Agenda
John Berry, the White House director of the Office of Personnel Management and the highest ranking gay official in the Obama administration, offered The Advocate's Kerry Eleveld a relatively bleak look at the action that has thus far been taken and the road ahead for LGBT issues, attempting to cloak his words in a veil of assurance that, given the President's actions thus far, may very well fall on deaf ears.
Eleveld's exchange took place backstage at Capital Pride where Berry, who gave an impassioned speech at the Justice Department last week on the importance that the federal government do more to ensure civil rights for LGBT Americans, told Eleveld he'd "been authorized [by the administration]
today to say everything that I’m going to be saying."
First, a bit of positive news: "...the Obama administration hopes to secure passage of Hate Crimes this coming week and that President Obama is soon to announce an initiative pertaining to providing federal LGBT employees with benefits equivalent to those provided to their heterosexual counterparts."
On a backroom deal with LGBT groups: "One of the first things I want to be clear about is that there are a lot of charges that there’s been some secret deal or backroom deal, there isn’t one. There isn’t one, there is no secret deal. We are working in partnership with all LGBT groups, and all groups are doing what they should be doing, which is passionately representing their unique interests."
And on the DOMA brief: "Finally, I want
to talk to you about the DOMA brief. Our strongest
argument against “don’t ask, don’t
tell” is that we stand with the truth. And that
we, more than anyone, know the cost of lying and the
terrible pain it invokes. This president
took a solemn oath to uphold the Constitution of the
United States and he does not get to decide and choose which
laws he enforces. He has to enforce the laws that have
been enacted appropriately and that he has inherited.
It would be wrong for me or any of our community to
advise him to lie or to shirk his responsibility.
He’s doing his job. He has made clear that he
stands for the repeal of DOMA. It will be part of this
administration’s agenda to accomplish that act. We
ought not waste energy and angst attacking him when we
should be focusing the energy and effort on getting
218 votes in the house and 60 votes in the Senate, and
that’s where we ought to target the energy and the
strength of this community and this president is with
us, this is our agenda and it’s his agenda."
Richard Socarides actually says just the opposite in his Americablog piece.
Berry said the administrations goals are hate crimes, ENDA, "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", and DOMA, in that order.
With this clarification: "Now, I’m not going to pledge -- and nor is the president -- that this is going to be done by some certain date. The pledge and the promise is that, this will be done before the sun sets on this administration – our goal is to have this entire agenda accomplished and enacted into law so that it is secure." Asked repeatedly, Berry refused to say whether these agenda items may be scheduled for Obama's second term. Just this: "We hope we get eight years, but if we’re limited to four, we’re still going to try to pursue this agenda."




NOW DO YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL SUPPORTING THIS SHITHEAD BEGINNING TO GET IT???
Posted by: Marc C | Jun 15, 2009 7:29:32 AM
How is this disappointing?
"The pledge and the promise is that, this will be done before the sun sets on this administration – our goal is to have this entire agenda accomplished and enacted into law so that it is secure."
Not fast enough for generation cry-baby? I'm sick these temper tantrums.
Passing legislation takes time. And if you haven't noticed there are other important priorities this Democratic administration is trying to tackle. Obama/Biden weren't carried into office on a raft of gay issues. Sure they promised change - but there was a big LONG list.
We'll get everything we want and then some. I didn't vote for Obama to end DOMA or stop DADT exclusively. I voted to end to unjust war, secure health care, reverse climate change, renew infrastructure, inspire new medical research, renew regulation of our food sources and drug supply - I bet you did too.
So far so good in my book. These guys have a plan. It's very well politically thought out. Get on board to get what you want. Or risk screwing the whole thing up because you can't wait.
Posted by: Ray | Jun 15, 2009 8:00:01 AM
I don't see how this forecast is all that "disappointing." If ENDA were passed and DOMA and DADT both repealed in four or eight years, that's a significant amount of progress.
Whether or not the progressive queer community actually believes that this will happen is a separate but related issue. But the outlook is only "bleak" if you straight-up don't believe what John Berry is saying.
Rather than carping at Obama, I think what the LGBT community should be doing now is targeting those Senators and Congresspeople who would vote against us in 2010. If we could get the votes in Congress, we have allies there who would introduce legislation - and if the legislation passed, Obama would happily sign it.
Like it or not, Obama is the Prez until 2012 and likely beyond (given the state of the GOP, I just don't see them putting forth anyone who could best him the next time around). And ... we could get mad (which we're very good at doing), or we could work hard to give Obama the tools he needs (a Congress that gets it) to fulfill the promises he made.
Posted by: Red Seven | Jun 15, 2009 8:06:02 AM
What is with the URL for this post? I mean:
http://www.towleroad.com/2009/06/chace-crawford-ripped-off-his-shirt-for-footloose-role.html
I like it, but WTF?
Posted by: what | Jun 15, 2009 8:10:59 AM
Golly gee. Where have I heard all this before.Oh, I know, it was during the campaign. Now, Obama has begun his campaign for 2012 and figures he still needs us. Not as much as he needs those religious fanatics though. DONNIE MCCLURKIN, DONNIE MCCLURKIN, DONNIE MCCLURKIN!
You didn't pay attention before. Maybe you will this time around. Remember, the Democratic Platform attwempted to remove gay rights from the platform last year too. Donna Brazille stated that equating gay rights with civil rights for black people was just wrong. Actions speak louder than words. Are you going to get bamboozled again? if so, you deserve this.
Posted by: glennmcgahee | Jun 15, 2009 8:21:25 AM
I'm NOT disappointed by this news. (Though I am a bit tweaked by its informality. Thank Hera for Kerry Eleveld of the Advocate for wrestling an authorized statement out of the WH!)
I think the message is clear that we have to do our part on the grassroots level to make the opportunities for any changes from above.
And to clarify, the article stresses that the agenda items are not "going to go one, two, three, four" and NOT prioritized as you say above.
Posted by: Nick | Jun 15, 2009 8:21:31 AM
"Berry said the administrations goals are hate crimes, ENDA, "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", and DOMA, in that order."
Those are the most "doable" items, politically, and in that order.
And Red Seven is correct - the community needs to put the pressure on their Congresspeople and Senators.
Posted by: Hank Drake | Jun 15, 2009 8:22:04 AM
I think this is shit, and I think Obama is a bigot. I blame Christianity.
That said, I am also not sure why anyone is surprised and freaking out about it. Did you not know he was deeply religious, and centrist, when you voted for him? When did he present himself as some sort of radical progressive?
Posted by: Eshto | Jun 15, 2009 8:27:21 AM
Berry's comments are disappointing, but refreshingly blunt. He's right - the president cannot 'pick and choose' which laws to enforce.
HOWEVER - no one should be surprised that these briefs from the White House are seen as infuriating, hurtful and toxic. It would be great to hear the president himself say: "I believe that these laws are dishonorable and disgraceful. While they are in place, I am obligated to uphold them as president, but I will make every legal effort I can to eradicate these policies during my administration."
Would that be so hard? It would mean a lot if he just said it. But he isn't - he's being secretive, and of course people are skeptical. Who wouldn't be?
Posted by: Yeek | Jun 15, 2009 9:18:48 AM
When Zapatero was elected prime minister of Spain he announced in his inauguration speech full gay marriage in CATHOLIC Spain. About 2 years later gay marriage was there!!!
Why should it take so much longer for LGBT issues to progress in the USA? What are they doing all day (HIV travel ban)?
Obama is loosing credibility already abroad when he preaches civil rights, moral leadership in foreign countries and doing nothing at home (other isssues like Gitmo, trials, double standards with China and weaker countries…). People realize that he is holding big speeches, making promises… that’s all. Nobody speaks it out loud yet but the feeling is already there.
The word CHANGE stands only for kicking the Republicans out, bringing the Democrats in – no more. And of course business as usual, see Pelosi and others.
I think in the next elections Obama will loose his advantage in the Senate and in 2012 a lot of gays will not vote any more for him because they are tired of waiting for NOTHING.
Posted by: M from Germany | Jun 15, 2009 9:27:03 AM
Ray. Legislation takes time. An executive order to end DADT does not.
We are second class citizens to this administration. An improvement over Bush: yes. Our friend: hardly.
Posted by: jmdrwac | Jun 15, 2009 9:33:14 AM
Ray. Legislation takes time. An executive order to end DADT does not.
We are second class citizens to this administration. An improvement over Bush: yes. Our friend: hardly.
Posted by: jmdrwac | Jun 15, 2009 9:34:41 AM
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/06/15/neo_nazis_army/
Obama has political cover to sign an executive order to stop discharges under DADT. Recruitment has fallen so far that, as the article above makes clear, they'll take ANYBODY.
Posted by: Hank Drake | Jun 15, 2009 9:39:55 AM
Isn’t it nice that Obama now has Kenneth the NBC page from 30 Rock out defending his anti-gay ways and homophobic inertia.
Posted by: ggreen | Jun 15, 2009 9:46:21 AM
"First, a bit of positive news:" just grates my last nerve when anyone uses it. It's the usual set up for disappointment. While I do not find the information entirely disappointing, it's content certainly does not portray much positive movement on some key issues. The time may very well have come for the LGBT community to defect from the Democratic party and look for another alternative. Our voices need to be heard and we wield a helluva lot of financial clout.
Posted by: Island Girly | Jun 15, 2009 9:53:54 AM
FIRST, that "the Obama administration hopes" is NOT "positive news"...it's self-serving spin, another cup of Kool Aid. Haven't they proven to us that it's FAR past time that we stopped awarding Team Obama gold medals BEFORE they've run the track?
SECOND, the comments of some above indicate that they have already forgotten or forgiven the administration's TOTALLY UNNECESARRY defense in court of DADT & DOMA using THE SAME homophobic lies employed to pass them in the first place only prove they've been completely assimilated by the Obama Borg.
As John Aravosis, who was, note, a fierce advocate for Obama getting the nomination, just wrote at AMERICAblog:
"Berry claims the president does not have the option to oppose existing law, at all, no exceptions, zero, nothing. THAT'S A FLAT OUT LIE, as we showed earlier with the essay by Richard Socarides. We also listed four cases where Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton and Bush Jr. all REFUSED to defend existing statutes."
And from another former Obama fierce advocate, David Mixner:
"You fully need to understand the ramifications of this brief: IT UNDERCUTS every conceivable argument that the LGBT community would use to fight for the repeal of DOMA. Right-wing nut cases can now just simply quote horrible stuff from this hateful brief and proclaim loudly it was filed by the Obama Justice Department. The President and his team have not only undercut this community but have damaged his own ability to repeal this hideous law."
When did the body snatchers grab the REAL John Berry who trumpeted last week:
“Frank Kameny did not resign himself to his fate or quietly endure his wrong [LIKE OBAMA'S BETRAYAL IN COURT OVER DADT & DOMA]. He fought back. After 20 years, he achieved the goal he sought — the repudiation of the government’s policy of formal and unfounded discrimination [LIKE OBAMA'S BETRAYAL IN COURT OVER DADT & DOMA].
That same spirit burned in the hearts of patrons of the Stonewall bar on a warm July night 40 years ago. Saying ‘no’ to abuse, ‘no’ to harassment, ‘no’ to basic violations of human dignity [LIKE OBAMA'S BETRAYAL IN COURT OVER DADT & DOMA] — proud Americans stood up, fought back and gave birth to the national movement for [LGBT] rights.
The tree of liberty grows but in one direction. The rings of that tree are nourished by honesty and truth [NOT THE LIES AND DISTORTIONS IN THIS ATTEMPT TO EXCUSE OBAMA'S HEINOUS DEFENSE OF DOMA], warmed by love and justice [NOT OBAMA'S BETRAYAL IN COURT OVER DADT & DOMA], and rooted in respect and dignity [NOT OBAMA'S BETRAYAL IN COURT OVER DADT & DOMA]. It is my belief that Frank Kameny’s fight to hold a job he did well and the passionate fight for dignity and respect that began at Stonewall were not isolated events — they were in fact the formation of a new ring of life on the American tree of liberty. [UNLIKE OBAMA'S BETRAYAL IN COURT OVER DADT & DOMA WHICH TRIED TO CHOP THAT TREE DOWN]."
Where's the real Berry who then asked audience members where they stood.....with either those “honoring love as precious and true” or “with those who would demean or deny it [LIKE OBAMA WHO BETRAYED US IN COURT OVER DADT & DOMA].”
“I urge you, stand where you can be proud. Stand with service and truth. Stand with love. Stand for liberty and justice for all.”
NOW he's asking us to trash our pride and stand with the OPPOSITE of truth, liberty, and justice for gay Americans.
REPEAT: what have they done with THAT John Berry? The impostor who spoke to the Advocate is just another Porch Faggot, and the Queer Quisling.
Posted by: Michael @ LeonardMatlovich.com | Jun 15, 2009 10:00:36 AM
I was at DC Pride yesterday and Berry's party line talking points were less than impressive. We've heard the talk; it's time for Obama and Congress to walk the walk.
Posted by: Jim Watson | Jun 15, 2009 11:43:15 AM
OBAMA = Biggest wolf in sheeps clothing ever... "C U Next Tuesday"
Posted by: Travis | Jun 15, 2009 11:51:42 AM
It is a damn shame to still see some boot lickers for Obama giving him cover. This man is the President, and the buck stops with him. I blame him for this and nobody else!
Posted by: DaveA | Jun 15, 2009 11:55:57 AM
If people in DC who had read about the DOMA defense before Berry spoke had any REAL pride they would have booed him off the stage!
Posted by: Michael @ LeonardMatlovich.com | Jun 15, 2009 12:41:26 PM
I'd buy this if not for the language in and the silence about the DOJ DOMA brief. They just don't jibe.
Posted by: Marty | Jun 15, 2009 12:52:06 PM
I don't like how long it's taking for these things to come to pass.
But consider this...
Would you rather have had McCain / Palin?
Posted by: Michael | Jun 15, 2009 12:53:58 PM
A gay man in HR. Wow. How groundbreaking. If he were talking about Health Care Benefits, I might be listening, but WTF does he know about policy? Shut the Fuck Up.
Posted by: dc8stretch | Jun 15, 2009 1:01:05 PM
Change will only come when we fill Congress with as many of our best LGBT citizens as possible. The President isn't supposed to have any real power - that's Congress' job. The elections are where we should be focusing our full effort and attention. We all should make certain that each and every open public office throughout this country has a LGBT person running for the job. We were just shown that grassroots campaigning can get the under dog elected. We can't forget that important lesson. You know someone in your group that would make a great Congressperson and it's your responsibility to encourage them to run for elected office. Until Congress is full of our sharpest people - America is in serious trouble.
Posted by: Mitchell | Jun 15, 2009 1:12:25 PM
Wake up everyone. Obama does not support our community. At all. On the bright side, at least he'll do nothing for or against us, while a Republican would have continued to hurt us.
All we can do is keep pushing at the state level.
Posted by: stolidog | Jun 15, 2009 3:32:40 PM