1. says

    This seems – I don’t know – a bit staged? Why is Von Brunn [!] mentioned as opposing the Fed when that’s completely unrelated to his inflammatory past statements and rants? Timing: Ron Paul just submitted an “Audit the Fed” bill that has 207 sponsors. We’ll see how many he has at the end of the week and thus know “Cui bono?”

  2. Dan says

    TOMMY: Actually,yes it does.What do you call an American White Supremacist with a gun,shooting at innocent people,motivated by hate?

    A “Domestic Terrorist”

    get rid of the naive attitude

  3. jimmyboyo says



    Tommy and antaeus must be gay STORMFRONT (neo nazis)types


    Anyway; the sometimes surprisingly not a fox bot Shep mentioned that the DHS report on domestic terrorism that was boo bood by repubs was right.

    The Us taliban

    xtianistas hating us gays and women + stormfront white supremacists

  4. Michael @ says

    I’m old. Older attitudinally than even my birth certificate says.

    For I’m old enough to remember when there seemed to be a more proactive sense in schools to instill the lesson of the horror of the Holocaust [victimizing gays was left out, of course].

    And I was old enough to understand when JFK was shot and, later, saw, via our TV, Lee Harvey Oswald shot as it happened.

    I came home from school to see film of black and white civil rights demonstraters in the South being beaten earlier that day.

    The first protest I participated in was against an appearance by George Wallace when he was running for President.

    I picketed the Johnson White House on a Good Friday carrying a blowup of a photo of the My Lai massacre, and have been physically attacked in separate instances for being antiwar and for being gay. I’ve been fired and denied promotions for the latter.

    I have slept on the wrong side of the Berlin Wall and walked hushed through the ghost-filled grounds of Dachau.

    I watched the White Night Police Riot in the Castro from the roof of my apartment building.

    I have buried most of my gay friends lost to AIDS while the government laughed.

    I have visited this Holocaust Museum whose recognition of gay victims would outrage the putz in the New York legislature. It is a holy place, and, old and jaded and cynical as I am, this still shocks me.

  5. Wheezy says

    He is an elderly bigot who is considered the “elder statesman” of the white supremacist movement. He is rumored to have prostate cancer. This seems like the last suicidal gesture of a dinosaur seeing his “white (male) run world” going extinct and the new world order of non-white, non-Christian, non-male, non-straights taking over. He may have decided to become a martyr to inspire other Nazis and KKK types to perform similar acts and rise up in “civil war” against gays, women, blacks, non-Christians, Hispanics etc…

  6. Paul R says

    Among the other horrors of this stories is that the guard is dead and the gunman is still alive and receiving life support. He obviously meant this as a “going out” message, and I wish they’d respected the bastard’s wishes.

  7. Paul R says

    By the way, Leland Frances/ David Ehrenstein, why do you continue posting under so many aliases? What’s the purpose? Regular commenters have long since caught on, and you’ve been accused and never denied it. Why? Is it a desire to intersperse pithy comments with endless ones?

    You often have interesting things to say, and you often ramble on like hell. Either way, the multiple personalities are just bizarre.

  8. Kipp says

    You might want to run that lead sentence through grammar check – it reads as stating that the killed guard was shot by his fellow guards after he was shot by the gunman.

  9. jimmyboyo says


    interesting link

    Yeah a huge diff is one is “praise baby jeeeebus” xtian while the other is a muslim ,but BOTH are terrorists though only one gets labeled that and going to be prosecuted as one.

    BUT another huge difference is simply race. The black guy gets labeled a domestic terrorist while the white guy doesn’t. Sadly, I’m not surprised. In a country where an obvious slut visiting a party island goes missing is reported on nationally ad nauseum because she is blond and white while a young black girl gets kidnapped a block from her house on the way home from church barely gets mentioned in the local media let alone nationally even once.

  10. Kyle Sullivan says

    So…ya think they’ll waterboard the SOB who shot up the place to find out if there’s more attacks planned? Isn’t that what the right wing-nuts think torture’s all about — facing the ticking clock and deciding to use any means necessary to keep more from being killed? I haven’t heard anyone from the right want that for this creep or the terrorist who assassinated Dr. Tiller in Kansas, who actually did make threats, according to reports. Do they only mean waterboard Muslim terrorists and not white Christian ones?

  11. jimmyboyo says

    Kyle sullivan

    The tiller murderer has openly said that there will be more abortion doc killings/ many more martyrs for the cause yet nothing from the right on waterboarding him to get info

  12. anon says

    It’s Leland Francis/Michael Bedwell. David E. is a real human and well known writer who doesn’t see eye-to-eye with LF/MB on much.

    Oh boy, now the TSA will be strip searching grandmas at museums too!

  13. says

    Jimmyboyo: Amen. There was a really good CSI Miami episode recently about this issue. I don’t think it’s one that most whites even think about. That is not to say they are racists before anyone jumps on me. Just an observation.

  14. says

    Further research will probably find that he is a card carrying Republican, a FOX News fanatic, Tivo’s O’Reilly and Hannity, an avid listener of Rush Limbaugh and a follower of Pat Buchanan.

  15. Michael @ says

    Nor, Paul, did I have Vince Foster killed nor load Dan White’s gun.

    “These Republican leaders have not been content with attacks on me, or my wife, or on my sons. No, not content with that, they now include my little dog, Fala. Well, of course, I don’t resent attacks, and my family doesn’t resent attacks, but Fala does resent them. You know, Fala is Scotch, and being a Scottie, as soon as he learned that the Republican fiction writers in Congress and out had concocted a story that I had left him behind on the Aleutian Islands and had sent a destroyer back to find him–at a cost to the taxpayers of two or three, or eight or twenty million dollars–his Scotch soul was furious. He has not been the same dog since. I am accustomed to hearing malicious falsehoods about myself–such as that old, worm-eaten chestnut that I have represented myself as indispensable. But I think I have a right to resent, to object to libelous statements about my dog.”

  16. says

    The crazies are out there in force. First, let’s not forget, the whacko who went shooting in the Unitarian Church. Then, a few months later, the guy who killed the abortion doctor. Now, just a few days later, this.

    Meanwhile, nut jobs like Glenn Beck stoke the violence on a daily basis, courtesy of Fox News.

    I hope the Secret Service is more careful than its ever been, ever. It’s not going to take long till the rightwing domestic terrorists go for elected progressives and democrats.

  17. 24play says

    Paul R,

    Michael Bedwell/Leland Frances likes to use multiple aliases because it allows him to do things like declare one day—as “”—that he has the “utmost respect” for his “friends” SLDN cofounder Dixon Osburn and current SLDN head Aubrey Sarvis. Then, in the middle of the night a few days later, Michael logs back on under a brand new screen name (Escoffier) and slanders both of them viciously, dismissing them as ineffective, overpaid, do-nothing cowards, and detailing supposed staff defections under Sarvis.

    Then when you confront Michael, it’s all deny, deny, deny, and How dare you accuse him?! Caught red-handed, Michael turns as vicious as a cornered rat and impugns the accuser’s credibility and integrity. (Project much, Michael?)

    Or at least that’s what Michael did last weekend over on Joe.My.God.

    Why does Michael pull bullshit stunts like this? Because SLDN disagrees with the Palm Center’s recommendation that Obama issue a stop-loss order halting the discharges of gay servicemembers. So Michael feels he has to try and discredit these two men who have dedicated much of their lives to helping gays in the military.

    Michael/Leland is a two-faced, back-stabbing snake and a lying sack of shit.

  18. Matt says

    uhh, aside from this blog drama that I’m apparently unaware of…

    How is this not domestic terrorism? If this person had been a Muslim and even so much as burped something that sounded like “Osama” people would be flipping the fuck out. This guy was involved in some crazy shit, and just because they want to exterminate specific americans as opposed to americans in general doesn’t make them any less of a threat to national security. Remember that Tim McVeigh guy? Remember the last time a presidential administration decided to poo-poo warnings about terrorist threats?

  19. Yes I am Chris says

    OH NO Are ya’ll getting on that queen Leloonytunasia Franksteinostrosphy again??

    THEN GOOD!!!! She deserves it! *snickers”

    On a serious note what happened today is only the beggining of some very serious issues of Domestic Terrorism we will see.

    And for this Man to be 8 yrs old and still have that hatred still bagged up in him is SAD. But personally if I was the nurse at the hospital I would pull the plug on his ass. Save us the time and money of a trial!

    My condolences goes out to the guard and his family!

    Now girls you can continue to read Leloonytunasia Franksteinostrosphy


  20. BMF says

    Usually, on Towleroad, when someone black does something- like isn’t supportive of gay rights- there all these posts that lay blame at the feet of the entire black community. I find it interesting that the same phenomenon doesn’t occur when the bad actor is white. I guess that’s because white men get to be individuals. It’s a pity black people aren’t individuals too.

  21. Paul R says

    24Play, thank you for further clarifying things. I’ve been reading and commenting on Towleroad for several years (and had to change names a few times because of freaks), but I never understood the entire story of of whats-his-name.

    As for the racism charges, the story cited by Soulbrotha referred to a black guy who shot two members of the military, and a white guy who shot an abortion doctor. In this country, shooting anyone in uniform (pretty much regardless of circumstances) gets you branded a terrorist or traitor by pretty much everyone. But for some people, shooting an abortion doctor deserves a pat on the back.

    It’s sick, and why we need stronger gun control laws. People who think that owning a gun makes them safer are idiots, and idiots shouldn’t have the right to shoot guns.

  22. Michael @ says

    And, you still don’t understand the “entire story,” Paul, not from “24Play” aka “Band” aka Obamabot, the Diva of Demonization.

    I post respectfully about the subject of the thread, bigotry and murder, and you both [or is Paul also 24Play also Band also….] turn it into a personal attack on me, and David Ehrenstein in the process. CLASS ACT!

    The next time you need to take a piss could you wait until after the memorial service is over?

  23. says

    @ BMF
    I don’t know where your comment is coming from, but just to address your concerns, racism is prevalent in whatever race you are. I know blacks that blame all their problems on whites, including jobs, welfare, gangs, education, etc. Your words solidified that. A recent example was when it was reported that Justice nominee Sotomayor stated “a wise Latina women” and a “white male” in one of her speeches. Was it racist? Yes, in this politically correct society. However, I don’t consider her a racist. Let me ask you…if she had used “black” instead of “white” would you consider it racist? You know that you would and Jesse and Al would be all over her. If she just stated a “male” without race, then it wouldn’t be considered racist (maybe sexist). Don’t you find it strange that black and hispanic comedians can make jokes about white people, but if a white comedian made a joke about black or hispanic people, it would be considered racist? I suspect in your world, anyone can say anything they want against white people; isn’t that racism? Some people only see or hear what they want to. Apparently this is the case here with you. I request you note that in the ‘headline’ it specifically states “White” Supremacist.

  24. says

    CB: No. Your hackesque talking points about Blacks “you know” and then your turning around to start your attack on Sotomayor are rather boorish. Not too mention, what’s the word I’m looking for? Hmm, let’s go with, stupid.

    Do you even know any Blacks? No, really. Not that dude who hangs outside of 7/11. Not your “homie” from work who parks the cars either.

    On Sotomayor you grab some sentence from a jillion years ago and twist it.

    Listen, every single adult brings their life experience to everything they do. If not, they are not human. Of course you want a women to be different from a man, a Black different from a white as from an Asian. Fair isn’t always so when it’s only from one direction. A white Ivy league guy is going to see things differently from. So what?

    And before you start about the constitution, a whole lot of white men looked at the constitution and justified slavery even though it said right there, uh, no. Thankfully a different set of people with a different set of life experience came along many years later (at last) and made things change from what they had been. So what?

    Stop trying to find drama. Sotomayor is a very good candidate for the job and no mud slinging is going to change that.

  25. gwyneth cornrow says

    On the contrary, I totally lay this at the foot of whites in America. I think there’s a James Von Brunn lying dormant in every one of them.

  26. says

    @Derek Washington
    First off you are so full of hate, that you are just a stones throw away from being the equivalent of a Von Brunn in a few years. It’s also apparent that your capacity to understand the point that I was putting across is way beyond your comprehension, that there is racism in all races. Apparently you do not believe that blacks can be Captains of industry, well versed or educated, since you think that they all hang out at 7/11’s or park cars. I spent many, many, years in the military. I knew people from all walks of life, from all races, from every state in the U.S. and various countries. I saw bigotry, prejudice and racism from all races. You read what you want to read, not what the printed word states. No where did I say that Sotomayor was not qualified, nor did I say that she was not an excellent candidate for becoming a Justice of the Supreme Court. I personally think she is. BMF was literally stating that whites get a free pass, I was pointing out that they don’t, that racism can come from all directions. My statement about Judge Sotomayor was to show that; pointing out that when she used ‘white’, her statement, not her, did indeed, become racist, which apparently you do not, because you are not white. However, if she had stated a ‘black’ male, we probably would not be having this discussion since you would be up in arms about her statement. Most of us learn from the past and move forward, you prefer to live in the past and blame everyone else for your problems. You are very narrow in your thinking. Martin Luther King once stated “An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity.”

  27. says

    @gwyneth cornrow
    Von Brunn was anti-Semitic, so what color do you consider Jews since you feel that all whites fall into the Von Brunn anti-Semitic category?

  28. Derrick from Philly says

    “Most of us learn from the past and move forward, you prefer to live in the past and blame everyone else for your problems.”

    The past often explains the problems of today, CB. In general, various groups in America don’t seem to like history…when it’s about the bad they’ve done. They say, “let’s move on….put the past behind you.”

    And it’s almost impossible to “make-up” or “white-wash” one’s history like it used to be. Americans, Afrikaners, Isrealis were the latest to try to re-write history. It doesn’t work anymore–not like it did for older societies (the British, the French). It doesn’t work anymore.

    The American past explains so much of what is happening in this country (and the world) today.

  29. Jim says

    What about Mr. Jones. I have listened to and read news reports of the event, but non tell anything about the security guard. What about his family or partner or significant other. Doesn’t he deserve some mention other than his name and that he died? Not only was the killer an anti-Semite, he was a racist.
    I hope those who belly ached about HRC’s report are satisfied with the apology they demanded from HRC Secretary Napolitano.

  30. Nadorn says

    If he was an /actual/ Paul supporter, he’d realize the candidate he supports is largely inspired by the economist Ludwig von Mises and libertarian Murray Rothbard, both Jewish.

    He’d also realize this sort of act would only marginalize his candidate’s support at a crucial time when he has landmark legislation close to a vote.

    This is going to be another case of people tossing Paul supporters and Paul himself in the dustbin as ‘crazies’ for the actions of an errant few, as if Obama or McCain were never supported by murderers.

  31. gwyneth cornrow says

    Jews are def not white.

    Also, I think you are confusing bigotry and chauvinism with racism. The term racism suggests that one’s beliefs are backed up by institutional power. Perhaps the more accurate term here is white supremacy.

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